I ended up cancelling my Amazon one and going all in for the full bundle. Several of the stretch minis are excellent, and the X-Grave sprues are always just so versatile. I may not need them today, but they'll always get used in time.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: I ended up cancelling my Amazon one and going all in for the full bundle. Several of the stretch minis are excellent, and the X-Grave sprues are always just so versatile. I may not need them today, but they'll always get used in time.
I wonder how a Frost Grave medley box would sell? One sprue of each fantasy set. There must be at least 10 by now. I might not need 20 soldiers or 20 pirates or whatever but having 5 of each would be cool.
There are single sprues on ebay and at some retailers, pretty sure even North Star itself did a mixed set least once. I can imagine this reduces total sales tho, as you say, you really just need 1 of each.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: I ended up cancelling my Amazon one and going all in for the full bundle. Several of the stretch minis are excellent, and the X-Grave sprues are always just so versatile. I may not need them today, but they'll always get used in time.
I wonder how a Frost Grave medley box would sell? One sprue of each fantasy set. There must be at least 10 by now. I might not need 20 soldiers or 20 pirates or whatever but having 5 of each would be cool.
Unless it had a huge mark-up, I would prefer that to the boxes they sell now.
Funny thing is the individual sprues don't seem to trade well on forums that I have seen. I have several oathmark and frostgrave ones I have offered on here/other boards for trade or sale at lower rates than eBay without so much as a pm of interest.
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote: I ended up cancelling my Amazon one and going all in for the full bundle. Several of the stretch minis are excellent, and the X-Grave sprues are always just so versatile. I may not need them today, but they'll always get used in time.
I wonder how a Frost Grave medley box would sell? One sprue of each fantasy set. There must be at least 10 by now. I might not need 20 soldiers or 20 pirates or whatever but having 5 of each would be cool.
Oh I need 20 pirates..
Yeah I can’t see them doing bundle boxes as it would definitely cut in to sales.
But it’s fine.
I always needed 80 extra models And maybe a female box when they come...
privateer4hire wrote: Funny thing is the individual sprues don't seem to trade well on forums that I have seen. I have several oathmark and frostgrave ones I have offered on here/other boards for trade or sale at lower rates than eBay without so much as a pm of interest.
Earlier in the pandemic, there was a flourishing sprue/bits trading market. I got tons of sprues through the Dropfleet, BFG and Wargames Atlantic Facebook swap groups. The WA group often traded sprues from Frostgrave, Mantic, and other historical kits for WA stuff. Right around the end of last year, the shipping prices and hassle seemed to have jumped for small bits packages, and the trading pretty much stopped across all the boards. Even when the stimulus checks came out there was no big uptick in trades. Maybe things will pick up as the post office recovers and people are more willing to walk into shipping centers to find the best shipping g prices.
Yea personally I wouldn't dream of going to the post office to ship a 5€ sprue in the Times of Rona, I rather save up and place few large orders, see a delivery boy like twice a month on open air in front of the house.
Indeed.
Long term I guess I’m hoping to sell 10 from each of these three boxes as I don’t need that many.
But it’s a case of finding someone in the UK, who wants that bundle, at the right price and right time..
You folks spent over £100,000.00. That is phenomenal, thank you very much!
We are putting the orders together now. It's such a huge amount of work it's going to take days to get everything out to you, so please be patient, especially if you ordered last weekend. Look out for an email to say yours has been despatched. (Check your Spam folders as they often get dumped there).
We will make the book and the miniatures available to buy again once all the Nickstarters have been sent.
£115k to be precise. Let's hope I actually play this one and it doesn't join the rules on the shelf of shame and models in the closet of shame.
Are your daughters old enough to play this? There's a father on Boardgame Geek who regularly posts pictures of the family's Frostgrave collection, and mother and children play (although dad has to do the 3d printing and painting). Having four player FG games must be pretty nice, and they are gearing up for Stargrave now.
Sally4th just sent me a shipping notice, so they've filled my animal heads order. I also found a cheaper version of the Bear Avenger on eBay. The Starship of Dr. Moreau is a little closer to reality.
Not to go on all-fours; that is the Law. Are we not men?
Not to suck up Drink; that is the Law. Are we not men?
Not to eat Fish or Flesh; that is the Law. Are we not men?
Not to claw the Bark of Trees; that is the Law. Are we not men?
Not to chase other Men; that is the Law. Are we not men?
With a litany like that, my First Mate needs be a Mystic. The Captain will be a Biomorph.
Also on eBay, there was a good price on this Battlesystem pre-printed cardboard building set: Cyberpunk Core Set, so that will give me indoor terrain for space stations and bases.
My copy of the rulebook arrived today from Amazon (a month earlier than they supposedly expected!).
It looks excellent so far. Quick and easy, but with some tactical depth around the captain & first mate options, which all look very cool. Most of your kinda 80s to 00s low-medium budget TV SF tropes are in there.
Ah, good timing, my copy of the rules arrived today so I can put my concerns to the test. My gut feeling is that the powers are quite underwhelming, certainly compared to Frostgrave but also compared to Ghost Archipelago. Most abilities will hurt you even if you succeed (like GA's Blood Burn, though that was harsher) but you also have to give up your non-move action.. namely, your attack.. to use a power whereas GA's heritor abilities did not and were mostly 'free' reactions to something else. So in a game where you are probably only going to get around 6-7 turns in a scenario, this feels kind of awkward. This is particularly true when there are only three 'attack' abilities and many of the 'self buff' abilities telegraph what you are going to do next turn.
It kinda feels like the smart money is to get as many out of game abilities as possible so that you don't 'waste' turns not attacking with your best model on the table. That, or your captain hangs out in the back like a coward, buffing all the soldiers or Doing Things With Robots. That's certainly a valid use of the captain, but I guess I imagined my captains would be more Ripley and less Gorman
Anyway, we shall see how much of an issue this really is once I try out Dead or Alive.
Yeah I am hoping it's well balanced. It looks that way. Like the obvious power move is to make all your soldiers robots, so they don't get penalties for being wounded, but that comes with the downside of making them harder to heal, and you can't make your captain or first mate robots, so you'd still need to consider two forms of healing...
That said, armour remains ridiculously effective -- realistic I guess. With 6 gear slots for captain, 5 for first mate, I can't see any sensible loadout much different than combat armour (2) and medkit (1) for each, carbine or shotgun (2) for first mate, and whichever 3-slot weapon you fancy for your captain (almost certainly rapid fire). Combat armour is balanced out by the 50 cred per game maintenance cost -- but it should easily pay for itself with increased survivability for your leaders.
I'll be really interested to see how the increased availability of ranged weapons has an impact on gameplay, compared to FG and GA. Hopefully not a huge amount if the terrain is as dense as recommended.
privateer4hire wrote: Anybody able to get the power cards to download? When I click it downloads the templates which seem to be one page/not including the cards
Trooper box build notes, the arms are mostly paired and numbered at the shoulder (if you've not noticed)
left arm 1 doesn't really work as I think it was intended (slapping a magazine in the smg) so you'll need to do a bit of putty work at the shoulder,
alternatively it may work as an unhelmeted head talking into the wrist com
left arm 8 has a lump at the top of the shoulder where it looks like a cadian style shoulder pad should be glued unlike any of the other trooper arms
not a huge deal but if you paint it before you notice it doesn't match it may annoy you (i'll be trimming mine off)
Spoiler:
each of the 4 sprues provides
1 pistol (this arm pair is actually from the crew box as the trooper one is in a double handed firing pose which I didn't want)
2 SMG
2 Carbines
4 Rifles
1 Sniper Rifle
1 Squad Machine Gun
1 RPG launcher
(so you'll have a bunch spare as each sprue had 5 bodies)
also 1 knife arm, and 1 knife in a fist that can be used to replace a hand on a left arm, plus for the troopers belts assorted pouches, grenades, pistol holsters, a knife, and an empty sheath
5 helmeted heads (+1 with monocular) shown above, 5 helmeted heads (+1 with monocular, +1 at 70% size? wierd ) in different style, 3 bare male heads, 3 bare female heads, 1 odd small helmeted head
privateer4hire wrote: Anybody able to get the power cards to download? When I click it downloads the templates which seem to be one page/not including the cards
It wasn't working when I tried yesterday - looked like they left out some link code when they updated the page, so the card and template links were merged. Working now, though.
Awesome, mine came today and did not take six weeks, once again proving that removing Royal Mail from the equation is the best thing ever.
Did a quick check and everything is present, so I've got something to look forward to when I've got the time to properly delve into things. Only minor annoyance is that the free metals don't have tabs or pegs under their feet, minor I know, but I like to use slotta bases for this project and tabs / pegs always make for a better bond in my experience.
Flinty wrote: Robots are also vulnerable to being taken over by the other side.
Absolutely. Though, I think that's not a huge risk. I reckon most warbands will either be robot-heavy or robot-free. The former might have a good chance of taking over your robots, but you'll have a good chance of taking theirs! Robot-free warbands are much less likely to have robot experts. Though given that everyone can take 1-2 non specialism powers, you can certainly grab Control Robot just to keep your enemies on their toes.
Reading the rules my main bugbear is going to be lack of weapon types. Theres a nice heavy grade sniper rifle on the sprue but no rules for it. I'd have liked an SMG, Rifle and Blaster option at least.
There aren’t specific rules for sniper rifles, but there are rules for snipers. The benefits of the weapon have just been rolled into the troop type. Equally, you could use the sniper rifle to represent an ever increasing shooting stat in your captain or XO.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: Trooper box build notes, the arms are mostly paired and numbered at the shoulder (if you've not noticed)
left arm 1 doesn't really work as I think it was intended (slapping a magazine in the smg) so you'll need to do a bit of putty work at the shoulder,
alternatively it may work as an unhelmeted head talking into the wrist com
left arm 8 has a lump at the top of the shoulder where it looks like a cadian style shoulder pad should be glued unlike any of the other trooper arms
not a huge deal but if you paint it before you notice it doesn't match it may annoy you (i'll be trimming mine off)
Spoiler:
each of the 4 sprues provides
1 pistol (this arm pair is actually from the crew box as the trooper one is in a double handed firing pose which I didn't want)
2 SMG
2 Carbines
4 Rifles
1 Sniper Rifle
1 Squad Machine Gun
1 RPG launcher
(so you'll have a bunch spare as each sprue had 5 bodies)
also 1 knife arm, and 1 knife in a fist that can be used to replace a hand on a left arm, plus for the troopers belts assorted pouches, grenades, pistol holsters, a knife, and an empty sheath
5 helmeted heads (+1 with monocular) shown above, 5 helmeted heads (+1 with monocular, +1 at 70% size? wierd ) in different style, 3 bare male heads, 3 bare female heads, 1 odd small helmeted head
I know it was speculated on a few pages back based off the Frostgrave miniature sizes, but could you take a photo of a Stargrave mini next to something Wargames Atlantic or Maelstrom's Edge if you have one of those around?
I'm still having trouble visualizing how different the heights actually are and if the proportions for helmets and whatnot might be compatible.
My concern is that I suspect we're going to see some optimal builds emerge, just because of the increased versatility as compared to FG and GA. Like, right now, I see the majority of captains having combat armour, medkit, and rapid fire gun, and the majority of first mates, combat armour, medkit, and either shotgun or carbine (probably shotgun because you might as well make your captain a shooter and your first mate a utility character, so the shotgun is mostly there to discourage enemies from getting too close). And, I think we'll see a few of the powers emerge as must-haves. Bait & Switch looks promising, as one. I don't think you'd ever regret giving both captain and first mate this one... and you can always do so, if you want.
(I know there is a downside to combat armour -- upkeep cost -- but I am pretty sure it pays for itself every single game in terms of increased survivability for your key units.)
I know it was speculated on a few pages back based off the Frostgrave miniature sizes, but could you take a photo of a Stargrave mini next to something Wargames Atlantic or Maelstrom's Edge if you have one of those around?
I'm still having trouble visualizing how different the heights actually are and if the proportions for helmets and whatnot might be compatible.
heads are certainly compatible, with the bare human heads being basically the same size (the helmeted trooper heads show are much chunkier)
MEdge Broken see to be slightly larger, but less chunky on the arms/legs, as do WGA lizard men
i'll see if I can find some gene stealer cultists, cadians and other WGA stuff & take some pics tomorrow
Edit 2 Frostgrave Gnoll with stargrave arms, stargrave trooper, female head stargrave trooper, stargrave trooper male head, Medge arm, Medge Broken with Stargrave arm
arm swaps between Stargrave troopers and Medge Broken work fine, although hand size/sculpting is noticeably different so both arms from one kit works best (or swapping out the hand)
Edit 3 WGA WWI German, WGA WWI German with stargrave arm, Stargrave Trooper, WGA Grognard, WGA Grognard with stargrave arm, Stargrave trooper, Medge Broken with Stargrave arms, Stargrave trooper
the WGA Germans can be used for head swaps, but the bodies and arms don't work with the stargrave stuff as they're much more true scale/less heroic (I'm guessing that will be the same for their wwii stuff too)
the WGA Grognards work well, both for head swaps and arm swaps (so the other deathfields kits should be fine too)
sorry I can't find my WGA raumjager or any of my unbuilt GW cadians (I suspect I was going to do a project with them, and put them all somewhere 'sensible' when I last tidied my work area so i'm not going to see them again until I cave in and buy some more)
Flinty wrote: There aren’t specific rules for sniper rifles, but there are rules for snipers. The benefits of the weapon have just been rolled into the troop type. Equally, you could use the sniper rifle to represent an ever increasing shooting stat in your captain or XO.
So, having not got the rules, and just looked at the Crew build thing.
We have Pistol, Carbine, Flamethrower, Grenade Launcher, Sniper (uses Carbine rules with extra perks),
rapid fire is like an assault rifle? A Carbine with extra firing perks perhaps?
Anything else to know before I start building things?
Mine arrived over the weekend. Does anyone have a list of that which was included as final?
I seem to remember some wee beasty was included, as well as some gnolls. Were these in fact included? I thought the OP was being updated, but apparently I misremembered!
IGtR= wrote: Mine arrived over the weekend. Does anyone have a list of that which was included as final?
I seem to remember some wee beasty was included, as well as some gnolls. Were these in fact included? I thought the OP was being updated, but apparently I misremembered!
That's my memory too, a magma something and a sprue of gnolls. Also various captains/lieutenants, loot, a sprue of cultists.
Should I be worried if Brigade in the US hasn't sent shipping info yet? Seems like people here are already assembling, and playing?
Probably not. Remember that the page said:
When you buy into a Nickstarter Deal, it qualifies you for the rewards that will be unlocked throughout the campaign. The Nickstarter campaign runs from 6th April to 26th April 2021.
The Nickstarter deals will be posted out May 2021.
The people posting with figures are the people who got it directly from the UK. In the optimal situation, Brigade games has to get the big batch of orders from the UK, repackage them for reshipment, and then send them out. If US backers through Brigade are lucky, I'd say shipping later this week and arriving the week after is the expected time table.
I know it was speculated on a few pages back based off the Frostgrave miniature sizes, but could you take a photo of a Stargrave mini next to something Wargames Atlantic or Maelstrom's Edge if you have one of those around?
I'm still having trouble visualizing how different the heights actually are and if the proportions for helmets and whatnot might be compatible.
heads are certainly compatible, with the bare human heads being basically the same size (the helmeted trooper heads show are much chunkier)
MEdge Broken see to be slightly larger, but less chunky on the arms/legs, as do WGA lizard men
i'll see if I can find some gene stealer cultists, cadians and other WGA stuff & take some pics tomorrow
Frostgrave Gnoll with stargrave arms, stargrave trooper, female head stargrave trooper, stargrave trooper male head, Medge arm, Medge Broken with Stargrave arm
arm swaps between Stargrave troopers and Medge Broken work fine, although hand size/sculpting is noticeably different so both arms from one kit works best (or swapping out the hand)
Edit 3
Spoiler:
WGA WWI German, WGA WWI German with stargrave arm, Stargrave Trooper, WGA Grognard, WGA Grognard with stargrave arm, Stargrave trooper, Medge Broken with Stargrave arms, Stargrave trooper
the WGA Germans can be used for head swaps, but the bodies and arms don't work with the stargrave stuff as they're much more true scale/less heroic (I'm guessing that will be the same for their wwii stuff too)
the WGA Grognards work well, both for head swaps and arm swaps (so the other deathfields kits should be fine too)
sorry I can't find my WGA raumjager or any of my unbuilt GW cadians (I suspect I was going to do a project with them, and put them all somewhere 'sensible' when I last tidied my work area so i'm not going to see them again until I cave in and buy some more)
OH, that's incredibly useful. Thanks Orlando! You went above and beyond the call of duty!
Looks like I'll be having some Stargrave kits in my future
I'm in the same boat with Brigade USA. Their site says shipping in May, and their home page has a plea for patience. It's not like I don't already have a closet of shame.
I messaged Brigade Games on Facebook about an hour ago. They just replied that they expect their Stargrave shipment to arrive this evening (5/4/2021) and will start packing and mailing orders out tomorrow.
I won't bug them. As others have said, my backlog is comically full painting and assembling-wise. Still, looking forward to using these for both Stargrave and 5-Parsecs!!!
My Nickstarter package just arrived. Before other people in the continental US start checking their porch, I ordered directly from Northstar, not Brigade Games. I figured I'd get it faster this way. Presumably Brigade Games has their share of the goods and needs to break them down into the proper orders.
Also, my Albedo critter heads arrived yesterday. They are on the small side, so some rough tests with Ghost Archipelago Crew torsos show not all will work. Mildly disappointed that the two bags of mixed heads were identical: Generic dog, dachshund, Angry Cat, Cartoony cat (but a good match for some of the female cat characters in the series), and otter. Since I bought an Otter pack I now have way too many otter heads. I was hoping for a fox head and a rabbit head. The badger heads are of the European badger, not the North American badger. I expected the former, but would prefer the latter as the NA badger has a broader, flatter head which I think looks better than the narrow European badger.
Finished reading Albedo. It's a good sci-fi story, though unfortunately incomplete. [For tragic reasons ... his wife was diagnosed with cancer, and he dropped everything to focus on her. She couldn't beat it.] The fact that these people are anthromorphized Terran animals is an important plot point.
Anyway, off to read the Stargrave rulebook so I can draft up some crews and then build them.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Sounds pretty useful for making an Uplift War set. Too bad they’re metal.
It's a nuisance, but I could not find any other options on Shapeways or Etsy. I'm just that fired up about making an animal-headed biomorph crew that I'm willing to deal with the bother. But resin or 3d printed plastic would have been so much better.
I was looking for a pic of them to see what backgrounds each figure was as I couldn’t remember for sure.
I’ve made my list of which ones I think fit into what roles too (the blank helmet Mystic can double as a Cyborg. Hacker could be used as a Tekker or Robotics expert etc).
Only problem is if you want to give them equipment and it’s not in the model then it’ll be harder to use them I guess..
KidCthulhu wrote: Hamster, these are the Sally 4th heads? I was always curious about picking up some. They're to small to really use?
Yes. It's a matter of head type added to the torso. For instance, Angry Cat is a small head and so looks wrong on most torsos, but Cartoony Cat is larger and works. The same applies to the dog heads. Otter heads are small, but I'm comfortable with it, if only because I've been watching video of pet otters ever since Covid started. Otters do have small heads compared to their body mass. Still, I was planning on posting pictures when I get a few built, and you can judge for yourself then. {The pics will be the usual poor quality tho...}
Can't get the image tags to work correctly, but the above image link for BBG shows two Sally 4th Rabbit heads on a Palantine Enforcer body, and Cadian body. It looks like rabbit heads are cast larger than the dog and cat heads I got.
Can't get the image tags to work correctly, but the above image link for BBG shows two Sally 4th Rabbit heads on a Palantine Enforcer body, and Cadian body. It looks like rabbit heads are cast larger than the dog and cat heads I got.
Thanks, Hamster! I had to keep refreshing the page because it was giving me 502 errors.
So yeah, it looks like the rabbit heads are much more in line for what we expected (hoped for)?
Do you have any of the Wargames Atlantic Einherjar? Those dog and cat heads might work on them because they're smaller overall?
KidCthulhu wrote: Thanks, Hamster! I had to keep refreshing the page because it was giving me 502 errors.
So yeah, it looks like the rabbit heads are much more in line for what we expected (hoped for)?
Do you have any of the Wargames Atlantic Einherjar? Those dog and cat heads might work on them because they're smaller overall?
You're welcome.
re Rabbit heads: It appears so, although since I don't own any myself can't confirm.
No on the WGA Einherjar, although I am considering a sprue purchase for that purpose. [And a Raumjager sprue for the flamethrower ] The WGA halflings probably would work too, and I've two torsos left from an earlier sprue purchase. Thanks for the suggestion.
Can't get the image tags to work correctly, but the above image link for BBG shows two Sally 4th Rabbit heads on a Palantine Enforcer body, and Cadian body. It looks like rabbit heads are cast larger than the dog and cat heads I got.
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Mr. Grey wrote: What's a Nickstarter? Is this some new form of tabletop gaming-related crowdfunding platform?
Stargrave Nickstarter has arrived and we are busy getting those out the door so please be patient. Please do not email or contact us for an update for your order as it will just take time from us preparing orders and we are doing them as quickly as we can. Note that BrigadeGames has never sold product to retail customers before shipping EVERY NICKSTARTER TO BACKERS FIRST. That just would not be the right thing to do.
Of the mystics that we Nickstarter backers got, she's my favorite, but I still think she looks more like an assassin than a mystic. Besides, most Mystic core powers have the Armor Interference rule. That much armor will penalize the Activation roll. Alternately, she's just that good. "-3? Bah! Child's play"
Void Blade, Mystic Trance, Control Animal, Camouflage, Regenerate.
Grab Combat Armour, a hand weapon, and whatever else you fancy. Use Trance to get Camouflage up and running before you start the game. Activate your Void Blade and you're immune to shooting beyond 12", with +5 Fight against shooting rolls closer than that. And, uh, people probably don't want to get much closer than that, because your Void Blade will mess them up. Control Animal is kinda situational to the point of almost irrelevant, but that's not exactly a problem because you have stuff you can do most turns, either a melee attack or Regenerate usually.
God I love models that look terrific with a simple paint job. GW has me so used to over-engineered, excessively detailed models that I feel like a failure for even daring to paint them. These? Totally different story, while still looking great on the table.
Yes, this is the best mystic by far, but then I can see why they left him out - I am far more likely to order a top-up from Northstar now, and I might as well pick up some other stuff along with him.
And yes, great to see models that look fab with a fairly 'simple' paintjob
Is it time to rename this thread to "Stargrave - News and Rumours"?
If you wanna play a literal Jedi surely you'll just use actual Jedi minis and probably the actual Star Wars setting with SW bad guys and terrain and all, there are plenty of resources for that. And if you don't wanna play a literal Jedi, why do you want to play a knockoff Jedi?
Northstar loves their Mystics. We got three in the Nickstarter, and they are showing off a fourth, and he does look good. Do their sculptors just like creating Mystics, or will a future supplement focus on them?
Speaking of not-Sith, here's one made from FG Demon bits. Looks like a Cultist body to me.
I am putting together and painting the crew box. These are the best plastic minis by northstar so far!
They are a ton of fun to pose and the kitbashing potential is amazing.
I have an order for one of each box with a supplier here in Sweden, should keep me busy for awhile.
I havent played yet but the rules seems good to me.
Getting a closer look at the painted model, I see why they didn't include flame-thrower parts in the sprues; there's the hose, tank, and heat guard for the arm & shoulder nearest the muzzles. That was probably easier to do a chunk of metal than trying to make all those extra parts fit with modular bodies.
(Of course, they could have also just done an Aliens or Space Marine style flamer with the small tank attached to the gun itself).
I got my shipping notification Saturday (I'm expecting it'll actually get picked up on Monday...). If you haven't got a shipping notification, it'd probably be worth going to the Brigade Games website and checking your order status there.
Psychopomp wrote: My Brigade shipment came in yesterday. I love everything in that box, including the d20!
Have fun! Assembling is the best part, using bits from many different kits, including FG & GA kits. Now that I've primed figures, and have started painting, I'm dragging my heels. But I assembled a bunch of figures in a hurry! {And want to build more.}
Have used the following non-SG Northstar plastics with SG parts. FG wizards 1 & 2, GA Crew. The GA Crew heads have a curved neck while SG plastics are flat, so trimming is required to use them on SG bodies.
@Danny76: You asked in the Show Your Crews thread, 'Where's Wash?" in my "Firefly crew. Had an idea; so I've built "Wash" with a GA Crew body and the lizardman head from the SG Mercs sprue. "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
I ordered directly. Northstar sent it 28 April and I got it on 5 May (so 5-6 days). It worked well this time. Previously, while Northstar & Royal Mail were on the ball, DHL US screwed up and had my package bouncing between Los Angeles and Phoenix, Az for ten days, until somebody in the Phoenix office caught it and fixed the problem.
I ordered directly. Northstar sent it 28 April and I got it on 5 May (so 5-6 days). It worked well this time. Previously, while Northstar & Royal Mail were on the ball, DHL US screwed up and had my package bouncing between Los Angeles and Phoenix, Az for ten days, until somebody in the Phoenix office caught it and fixed the problem.
MrPieChee wrote: I ordered the day before it closed, and got it within a week, but I am in the uk...
The US retailer I used to buy into the nickstarter delivered to some of their other US customers as early as May 7 based on fb posts. Guess I am just lucky.
Northstar seems busy with Oathmark right now. Not faulting them: I'm sure March and April was pretty much all SG, and they've other lines to support. Still, I'm curious about how large the SG metal line will be. Nickstarters got seven metal figures, and we've seen a flamethrower and mystic #4, so that's a minimum of nine figures. Frostgrave had Wizards & Apprentices for all Ten schools, and four double packs of Specialists, so 28 metals at launch.
Stargrave has 8 Backgrounds for the Captain & Mate, and nine Specialists plus the Medic. So that could be 18 metals there, although since we know of 4 mystics, there should be more to cover the backgrounds not covered such as Biomorph, Cyborg, and Tekker (among others).
I don’t have inside info but it seems like the (very cool) Rogue Stars miniatures which were/are in metal should be rebranded. Rogue Stars felt like it had a splash introduction which quickly cooled once folks either played the game or watched the batreps on YouTube. Most of the chatter about RS that I’ve read has been people gushing about how fun it was to make up new gangs and virtually nothing about playing games/campaign. We tried it in our small group but it had too much to track and also had some builds that were extremely hard to counter. Stargrave would give them a hopefully more active audience
privateer4hire wrote: I don’t have inside info but it seems like the (very cool) Rogue Stars miniatures which were/are in metal should be rebranded. Rogue Stars felt like it had a splash introduction which quickly cooled once folks either played the game or watched the batreps on YouTube. Most of the chatter about RS that I’ve read has been people gushing about how fun it was to make up new gangs and virtually nothing about playing games/campaign. We tried it in our small group but it had too much to track and also had some builds that were extremely hard to counter. Stargrave would give them a hopefully more active audience
That seems to be the direction Northstar is taking. A lot of the models used in the Rogue Stars rulebook also show up in Stargrave. Also, while RS may be close to unplayable, the scenario generator is useful for most any skirmish level game from near future to SF.
Rogue Stars were an add on for the Nick Starter so I definitely agree they can and should be folded in. Never looked at the game but there are some ace figures in there.
Rogue Stars is an amazing game but unless you and your game group dedicated all their minis time to it, it'd be a struggle to get serious games mastery. I and a lot of others backed it because we were hoping for something like A Song Of Blades And Heroes but in space, but it's more like a pulp SF version of Infinity.
JoshinJapan, absolutely agree that RS scenario generator is excellent.
Irt RS miniatures for stargrave, I think they add a lot of cool characters and alien options. I particularly liked the non humanoid creatures like the caterpillar
Using the Rogue Stars minis would save Northstar some sculpting time and money. The Pirate captain is a fine figure, as is the female Rogue (who seems to be wearing Han Solo's clothes from ep. 5). The alien assassins are also pretty cool. I currently own the pirate, rogue, and a psyker.
Edit: Was asked on BGG for size comparisons to older GW metals. Perhaps other in this forum might have the same concern.
From left to right: Stargrave Crew, 3rd ed W40k metal, Stargrave Merc, Necromunda metal, and Stargrave Crew
From left to right: 3rd ed W40k metal, Raging Heroes Jailbird Metal, Stargrave Crew plastic, Necromunda metal, and Wargames Atlantic Les Grognard plastic
The slight size difference is due to the slotta base. If I mounted the Stargrave figures on slottas, they'd be the same height as the older GW metals. Had no idea how tall Raging Heroes figures were until I did this size comparison.
Ancestral Hamster wrote: Northstar seems busy with Oathmark right now. Not faulting them: I'm sure March and April was pretty much all SG, and they've other lines to support. Still, I'm curious about how large the SG metal line will be. Nickstarters got seven metal figures, and we've seen a flamethrower and mystic #4, so that's a minimum of nine figures. Frostgrave had Wizards & Apprentices for all Ten schools, and four double packs of Specialists, so 28 metals at launch.
Stargrave has 8 Backgrounds for the Captain & Mate, and nine Specialists plus the Medic. So that could be 18 metals there, although since we know of 4 mystics, there should be more to cover the backgrounds not covered such as Biomorph, Cyborg, and Tekker (among others).
but Stargrave started with 3 plastic kits (large ones too) along with 7 metals, Frostgrave launched with just the metals so i'd say the launch line up is comparable (and will have cost a bunch more money too)
Amazon has the solicit for Quarantine 37 up for September.
Quarantine 37 is a supplement for Stargrave, in which the players lead their team of Free Traders into an abandoned space station, looking for lost technology as well as potentially unique research and experiments. Unfortunately, a few of those "experiments" have escaped and still roam the tight, dark confines of the station. Along with a host of new scenarios, this book also contains new technology, soldiers, aliens, and ship options for the players to upgrade their forces.
they talk about it here, 2 campaigns basically, zombies and aliens whether either get kits is under discussion
(sadly it sounds like modular robot kit was an earlier idea, but it really tricky to do well and get everything to fit together so probably isn't going to happen)
Basically a Deadzone riff. Don't particularly care for the ruleset anymore, it's just Frostgrave with a pass of Find/Replace to change spell names and that's not interesting to me. But hoping for more plastic kits.
Macaulay Culkin does drugs again, has a moustache and fights undead astronauts who are connected with the interior via hoses and so can't pursue him. Hum...
Macaulay Culkin does drugs again, has a moustache and fights undead astronauts who are connected with the interior via hoses and so can't pursue him. Hum...
I know we give Hollywood a lot of crap (rightfully) for all their their uninspired reboots and remakes.
But this is a reimagining of Home Alone I could get behind
Macaulay Culkin does drugs again, has a moustache and fights undead astronauts who are connected with the interior via hoses and so can't pursue him. Hum...
I know we give Hollywood a lot of crap (rightfully) for all their their uninspired reboots and remakes.
But this is a reimagining of Home Alone I could get behind
Macaulay Culkin himself said he's be onboard with a reboot that stars him as 8 year old Kevin again and nobody in the film acknowledges that he looks like a grownup.
Macaulay Culkin does drugs again, has a moustache and fights undead astronauts who are connected with the interior via hoses and so can't pursue him. Hum...
I know we give Hollywood a lot of crap (rightfully) for all their their uninspired reboots and remakes.
But this is a reimagining of Home Alone I could get behind
Quarantine 37 is zombies and bugs. Late this year. Both critters are out in plastic, Mantic and WG Atlantic, as well as others. So who knows if there will be North Star kits for them. 2 new Captains and First Officers, no details.
2 suplements for next year - the Last Prospector and Hope Eternal. Hope Eternal mentions pirates.
3 more boxes of miniatures on the way! Female versions of crew and mercenaries next. Sounds like space zombies are 3rd but it might just be heads and bits. Wants robots but not there yet, the logistics are harder since you're not limited to the human form.
lord_blackfang wrote: Don't particularly care for the ruleset anymore, it's just Frostgrave with a pass of Find/Replace to change spell names and that's not interesting to me.
Really? We've only played one game so far but it plays very differently so far. It's clearly using the same engine, as expected, but there are four big differences that add up to a completely different game feel:
1) Way more ranged attacks -- every unit other than the dog has some kind of gun, usually a pretty decent one.
2) Way more access to AoE attacks due to grenades and flamers being much more widely available (of your 10 units, up to 6 of them can have reliable AoE attacks without needing to activate a power)
3) As per (2) but for LoS-blocking via smoke -- again up to 60% of your units can bring this, depending on your build (I would absolutely bring 6 units with either grenades, grenade launchers, or flamers, so at least 2-3 LoS blockers and 6 AoE deliverers)
4) The rules around loot mean that the grab-and-run option is just no longer there. You need to give strategic thought to bringing crew who can unlock set types of loot, then tactical thought to how you use them, including as to whether you bring more than one person to unlock loot after the first one fails (which will certainly happen). Clustering up like that makes those AoE attacks come your way...
That's not even considering the fact that just about every power is different from how spells were -- I can't think of any off-hand that are just find-and-replaces?
I appreciate the run for it rule but I still don’t like the move halving business for 2nd moves and when carrying physical loot. Makes for some silly calculations in what should be a fast moving game
Finally got some sprues from the three Stargrave multi-part plastic boxes. Wow! These are much more interesting in person than they looked online. Great stuff for various kitbashing projects. I would say these are almost “must haves” for 28mm kitbashers.
Grumpy Gnome wrote: Finally got some sprues from the three Stargrave multi-part plastic boxes. Wow! These are much more interesting in person than they looked online. Great stuff for various kitbashing projects. I would say these are almost “must haves” for 28mm kitbashers..
Grumpy Gnome wrote: Finally got some sprues from the three Stargrave multi-part plastic boxes. Wow! These are much more interesting in person than they looked online. Great stuff for various kitbashing projects. I would say these are almost “must haves” for 28mm kitbashers.
Indeed. I had great fun kit-bashing, and mixing in parts from FG, GA, and 3rd parties. Since I no longer enjoy the painting process, things have now slowed to a crawl, but cleaning and assembly was fast. And I'm looking forward to making more after I've played the game and have a better idea of what Soldiers and Specialists I prefer.
Danny76 wrote: As I posted in the Stargrave models thread, or maybe it was here even.
Particularly that Dreadball set with the like Free Agents it might be.
Danny76 wrote: As I posted in the Stargrave models thread, or maybe it was here even.
Particularly that Dreadball set with the like Free Agents it might be.
Well, partner, it'll give your SG games a Firefly feel.
"A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything."
I remember once Firefly had a space-themed episode. The conceit was that the gang were actually the crew of a starship and all those odd towns they rode into were on different worlds. You can see why they didn't go with it, but it was a neat idea.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I doubt anyone is breathless waiting for my Stargrave crew review, but here it is!
Spoiler:
First off a fun, fun kit that I will buy more of. Well worth your $30.
The good - I picked the crew because it seemed to offer the most diverse options and was no disappointed. You get various guns ranging from crude looking shotguns and assault rifles to various high tech SMGs (but not heavy or special weapons).
In addition you get some arms holding tablets, tools (well just one holding a wrench) and some nice extra bits. Bits come off the sprue easily and fit together great.
You also get 15 sets of arms per sprue, a left and a right. So none of the GW nickle and dimeing where you get 20 guns but only 10 left arms to hold them. There's plenty of extra rifle arms to convert cultists and gnolls or whatever. I have something like 40 cultists in boxes so I can see a small army of troglodytes coming.
Unlike FG minis they do NOT have molded bases so you can use whatever basing you want. They come with flat disks but you can substitute GW bases or your favorite 3rd party.
The bad - All rifles and most pistols are right handed, so if you want a lefty you'll have to cut and glue. There's also hardly any right arms without a weapon so making unarmed civilians is hard. The kit could use an unheld rifle or two to put on backs.
Rules have snipers, grenade launchers and flame throwers but not in this kit. But a bit of fun with plastic rod took care of this. There's also no hand weapons on any of the kits. No laser swords, chain saws etc, no real cyborg bits other than an eye, some alien heads but nothing really wild. And of course no women though they coming.
Models are a bit smaller than GW humans, the flat bases make it even more obvious.
The detail also seems a bit softer than the Cultists or Gnolls, not sure why that would be.
Overall - great kit, I will buy more (no I don't need them but y'know). Moving forward I'd like to see occasional lefities, more unarmed hands, and bit more sci fi options.
The Dahlgren Belt was once a vast asteroid mining operation that supplied the entire sector with rare metals and various elemental fuels. However, the isolation of the last war caused the corporation to wither, and the various outposts and colonies were eventually left to look after themselves. Some became true collectives, or limited democracies, while others have fallen to the rule of gangsters, warlords, and despots. In all cases, the limited resources of air and organic material has made life difficult.
In this supplement for Stargrave, the crews must travel from asteroid-to-asteroid, and even down to the system's one, barely inhabitable planet, searching for a man who claims to have discovered a 'big score'. During their journey, they'll fight through numerous different environments – including asteroid mines, zero gravity, and even hellish jungle. They'll also need to curry favour with the various small political factions that hold power in the Belt. Only through a combination of wits, diplomacy, and the gun can the crews hope to reach the last prospector and gain a share of his claim…
This would be a good opportunity for a civilian kit. Spacesuited prospectors, sure, but with different tools, they could be shipwrights or damage control specialists. Spacesuits could also double as Biohazard suits ... not sure what accessories/tools would indicate they are dealing with hazardous materials though. I don't think one uses a mop & bucket to clean up after a nuclear meltdown.
Anyway, if Northstar does make such a kit, let's have more tool arms this time, as opposed to the one wrench arm, and two Data slate arms. Or even just a few open-hand arms and the user glues in tools/weapons as desired.
To quote Nick: "I know you don't 'need' Stargrave blast templates, but these printed laser cut MDF versions (with Loot tokens) are totally ace.
We'll have them available to buy soon, though I'll be using these right now thank you.''
Sadly the shipping costs + extra customs and duties tacked on after crossing the border made it not worth ordering directly from Northstar, I'm gonna have to use online stores in Canada that stock Stargrave/Frostgrave/Oathmark in the future.
I hope that Last Prospector cover is an indicator of a new box. With clear plastic bubble helmets and more heavy duty kit for the mentioned miners, shipbreakers and other space precariat ...
Dr Mathias wrote: I love the idea of that loot marker- helmet (presumably with a cranium inside) and a data tether trailing out
Reminds me of some Ghost in the Shell episodes.
Calm down there Satan.
My first thought was accessing the helmet's recordings but now we are jumping straight into neural-spikes like savages!
But yes I totally agree, I get the same Ghost in the Shell vibes where some poor VIP schulb gets their braincase stolen and interrogated for company/government secrets.
So the female heads from theTrooper box are in majority from the Frostgrave Wizards 2: from the left - 1st and 2nd, and the 3rd has simply added glasses.
From the Northstar Facebook page, preorders in a week's time.
@Stargrave: Quarantine 37 | Sept 16th. The first major supplement for the best wargame of the year. Featuring an entire solo campaign mode as well as 6 new soldier types.
Are you ready to venture out... alone?
@RenaissanceTrll @NorthStarFigs
https://bit.ly/3lH2RiG
We'll be taking pre-orders for Stargrave Quarantine 37 soon. If you order through North Star, we'll be giving away two free loot tokens as well as combining it into offers for the new Captains, First Mates and Specialist Trooper figures.
When it was commissioned, Imperial Research Station 37 was home to nearly 10,000 scientists and researchers working on a vast array of biological and chemical projects. Then, six months before the outbreak of the war, Station 37 went dark. No escape pods were launched and all attempts at communication went unanswered. Only a solitary, repeating broadcast filled the silence: "This station is under quarantine - do not approach”. When the war came, the station was forgotten, left to drift lifelessly in its empty system. Now, in the aftermath of the Last War, Station 37 has been rediscovered and its broadcast heard once more…
Quarantine 37 is a supplement for Stargrave in which players lead their crews into an abandoned space station, hunting for lost technology, unique research, and forgotten experiments. Compete with your opponents for these valuable resources across two competitive mini-campaigns, or venture into the vast maze of corridors and laboratories alone in the first Stargrave solo campaign. Also included are six new soldier types, new backgrounds and powers, terrifying additions to the bestiary, and a new advanced technology table packed with loot to help you in your adventures in the ravaged galaxy.
It looks like no new plastics for this, but new metals are coming.
Ah, good timing. After having the parts on my desk since the Mantic Nightstalkers were released, I finally made up a bunch of Necromorphs in anticipation of this book!
KidCthulhu wrote: Bobby Jackson is working digitally these days? Or are they working from his sketches?
He has been working digitally for a long time now. Loads of his Reaper figures are digitally sculpted, but in particular all the figures for Bones 4 and 5.
So Northstar has the pre-order specials for Quarentine 37 up, even though they are not live yet. There is post-Nickstarter set of metal figures for those of us who pledged for the launch Nickstarter. It consists of just the new metals (the other set is ALL the metal figures). So for the curious, the link. https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15728
This time I may want to just order individual figures ... do not need or want all of them, just a few. (And there's twenty of them if I counted correctly)
Very nice! I hope MiniaturicuM will manage the Nickstarter for Europe again, but maybe it was a one time thing for the Stargrave start...
I would really like the rest of the miniatures and the new book, for the solo campaign.
Garfield666 wrote: Very nice! I hope MiniaturicuM will manage the Nickstarter for Europe again, but maybe it was a one time thing for the Stargrave start...
I would really like the rest of the miniatures and the new book, for the solo campaign.
They did them for Frostgrave before as well, so there's a good chance they'll continue covering the Stargrave ones.
privateer4hire wrote: Wow! Hoping badger games does this one like they did for the first star grave nickstarter. That’s a crazy good deal if prices translate.
Brigade probably will as they have matched preorder bonuses to the UK's version for years now.
Nice, not really used the main book or solo download yet at all, so probably will wait a while before getting this.
But I am excited about these, when I get round to working on the crews properly and get them painted.
(More draw here as there’s like all the games I could use them for too. Parsecs, Starbreach and all that. Should always find opponents that way).
Danny76 wrote: Nice, not really used the main book or solo download yet at all, so probably will wait a while before getting this.
But I am excited about these, when I get round to working on the crews properly and get them painted.
(More draw here as there’s like all the games I could use them for too. Parsecs, Starbreach and all that. Should always find opponents that way).
I've been using 90% Stargrave minis elsewhere too. I think 5 Parsecs is a wildly superior game, but Stargrave's minis have a perfect "retro-cool" vibe for it.
Danny76 wrote: Nice, not really used the main book or solo download yet at all, so probably will wait a while before getting this.
But I am excited about these, when I get round to working on the crews properly and get them painted.
(More draw here as there’s like all the games I could use them for too. Parsecs, Starbreach and all that. Should always find opponents that way).
I've been using 90% Stargrave minis elsewhere too. I think 5 Parsecs is a wildly superior game, but Stargrave's minis have a perfect "retro-cool" vibe for it.
No, but there are provisions for it. One player has the crew, thus the "stars of the show", and the other player runs the goons/monster of the week. {Not very interesting for the second player, who is also less invested in the game's outcome.} At least that's how it was in 2nd ed Five Parsecs; don't know about the new Modiphius 3rd ed version.
Anyway, the various Nordic Weasel Games are all mini agnostic, so if people like the Stargrave minis they can use them in Five Parsecs, or Chrome Hammer etcetera.
Stargrave - Quarantine 37 Pre-Order are live. Order the book from Northstar (or their US distributor) and get 2 Loot tokens.
Also, there are offers that include the new metal figures. If you don't want all of them, take a look at the Stargrave section, and they are found in 2 figure sets, usually by Background (Tekker, Cyborg etc). There will be metal plague zombies, but there are no pictures of them yet.
Placed my pre-order with Northstar, as I wanted to get single frames from them as well. So Quarantine 37 pre-order, the Robotics expert set, the guard dogs, and 2 Oathmark elf light infantry frames. {For my Kings of War: Vanguard Northern Alliance war band. At least these elves are hooded and cloaked; the elves I currently own are obviously dressed for warmer temperate climes, not tundra.}
There are single frames for Frostgrave: GA Tribals, Cultists, basic soldiers, and demons, if anyone has kit-bashing needs, as well as most Oathmark frames.
Awww... nothing on MiniaturicuM... yet. Maybe because this is not a Nickstarter, but only a regular preorder.
I must say I am a tad disappointed with the metal zombie sets. This would have been perfect for a new plastic box. In metal, this will get very expensive...
And I know, there's the mantic plague zombies, but it seems the Stargrave ones will be rather unique.
Late to the Party, but I ordered a sprue from each of the three sets. What I thought would be slightly bland sculpts with some useful extras turned out to be fantastic models.
The style is chunky, simple detail - they have a very "Copplestoney" feel to them, a lot like the Future Wars figures he made 20-30 years ago , first for Grenadier then in his own line. They're pretty much the definition of "paints up much better than you think they will", and they're a joy to build and paint.
Each models is basically 4 parts - body, head, 2 arms. Most of the arms are in numbered pairs holding a weapon, with a few holding pistols, cases, datapads, tools, knives or ammo boxes. Lots of head choice, and backpacks, holsters and pouches galore. There's a good mix of weapon types including heavier options, and the arms fit together very, very well. There are a few ghostlike mouldlines in places, but they've kept the mould edges to match the edges of e.g. armour plates so they don't show. Very pleasant to assemble, and they're compatible with Frostgrave (and presumably Oathmark) plastics. My space gnolls finally have decent weapon arms!
Couple of tiny, tiny issues - the alien heads are generally a little bland, and I'd have liked a tail to go with a couple of them! They were never going to look convincingly alien in a set with human bodies (no digitigrade legs, like dogs have, for example). The line of metals North Star also sells for the game covers aliens better, and you can go to town with plastic gnolls and snakemen!
Well that initial purchase has been followed up quickly by a couple of full boxes of Troopers - they're my favourites, definitely. I will keep some of the datapad armsand other accessories from the Merc and Crew sprues to use with them.
Agree that the plastics are super well done. You can get dog legged style miniatures from the frostgrave demon and gnoll sprues. Also oathmark goblin riders have wolf tail accessories. So a sprue here or there will really expand your options.
WGA lizardmen tails work decently too (from facebook)
Dicky Boyd · Travelling in their advanced craft, that moved beyond the atmosphere, these 'cosmosaurs' were the elite of the forces that the Grand Canyon Lizards could deploy to preserve their world wide interests. (Kit bash by my mate Mike, who isn't on Facebook).
Ancestral Hamster wrote: Placed my pre-order with Northstar, as I wanted to get single frames from them as well. So Quarantine 37 pre-order, the Robotics expert set, the guard dogs, and 2 Oathmark elf light infantry frames. {For my Kings of War: Vanguard Northern Alliance war band. At least these elves are hooded and cloaked; the elves I currently own are obviously dressed for warmer temperate climes, not tundra.}
There are single frames for Frostgrave: GA Tribals, Cultists, basic soldiers, and demons, if anyone has kit-bashing needs, as well as most Oathmark frames.
Are these sprues generally for sale or only as part of a preorder?
Ancestral Hamster wrote: Placed my pre-order with Northstar, as I wanted to get single frames from them as well. So Quarantine 37 pre-order, the Robotics expert set, the guard dogs, and 2 Oathmark elf light infantry frames. {For my Kings of War: Vanguard Northern Alliance war band. At least these elves are hooded and cloaked; the elves I currently own are obviously dressed for warmer temperate climes, not tundra.}
There are single frames for Frostgrave: GA Tribals, Cultists, basic soldiers, and demons, if anyone has kit-bashing needs, as well as most Oathmark frames.
Are these sprues generally for sale or only as part of a preorder?
It is not part of a pre-order. However, according to Northstar Newsletter #244, the single Oathmark frames are only available until 30 August. So act now if you need them. (They do have single horse frames, and giant wolves. I forgot to add the wolves to my order. Blast.)
Re: Five Parsecs.
For those interested, you may want to read my last post on my opinions of the combat system. While it is from Five Leagues the fantasy solo system by the same author, the combat system is basically the same for each. Skip to "At this point I'm going to put this campaign on hold" to ignore the last few turns of my campaign. Basically, the tediousness of the 5P/5L combat system made me abandon that campaign. However, since I like the campaign aspects, I started a new one using a different combat system (where stuff happens instead of throwing dice for three minutes with no effect).
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/795325.page#11034198
Despite my opinion of the combat system, I do like the solo campaign aspects. Just wanted to warn folks that the combat system may not be what you want or expect, and you may need another.
Momotaro wrote: Late to the Party, but I ordered a sprue from each of the three sets. What I thought would be slightly bland sculpts with some useful extras turned out to be fantastic models……Damn fine models.
I felt the same and now completely agree. These minis have completely surpassed my expectations and are so versatile.
Last night I took the tentacled head from the mercenary sprue to make a “not-Mind Flayer” for Frostgrave with bits from the Wizard box.
Orlando the Technicoloured, those are great looking lizardman kitbashed. Perfect inspiration for me so thanks to you for sharing.
I had not originally intended to get into Stargrave as Core Space generally scratches that itch for me but I am now rethinking that. The 5 Parsecs 5 Leagues games sound like cool campaigns but awkward combat.
Danny76 wrote: Wait, five parsecs is solo play?
Then I really should get around to moving it from my to get list into actually having.
5 Parsecs was written to be 100% solo, and it shows as the game is a muuuuuch better RPG/Wargame hybrid than most of those that bolt those elements or co-op on after the fact.
From Joe's blog: "I have also started work on the third supplement, Hope Eternal, which is mainly going to be one, epic solo or co-operative campaign.''.
Shadow Walker wrote: From Joe's blog: "I have also started work on the third supplement, Hope Eternal, which is mainly going to be one, epic solo or co-operative campaign.''.
Remember the Frostgrave Cultists sprue has zombie bits on it. Just use those on the regular SG plastics. Not a lot of variety, but it still gives you some options.
Aeneades wrote: There is a living version of the same model in one of the new metal packs which will be a little easier to convert.
Nice.... my only problem would be that I just got the Starrave Nickstarter pack from a store, with all the freebie metals... and now I vividly remember why I don't buy metals anymore
That said, if the company is watching, I'd be all for joining a Patreon with 3d files of these sort of sculpts (I'm already a patron of Anvil Digital Forge, which is similar in a way).
You're the second person to say that in this thread.
It would only matter if you're going to do lots of conversions.
They look like 1 piece models, that will maybe need some flash removing at most and gluing to a base. So much easier than a GW 15 piece humanoid model where every tiny piece needs mould line removing and carefully gluing.
I get the hatred for metal if it's like an old dragon/demon model with overly heavy wings or similar that need pinning etc, but not single piece humanoid size models.
You're the second person to say that in this thread.
It would only matter if you're going to do lots of conversions.
They look like 1 piece models, that will maybe need some flash removing at most and gluing to a base. So much easier than a GW 15 piece humanoid model where every tiny piece needs mould line removing and carefully gluing.
I get the hatred for metal if it's like an old dragon/demon model with overly heavy wings or similar that need pinning etc, but not single piece humanoid size models.
Well they're metal, so they're gonna chip and be 100% monopose. I don't really like that
You're the second person to say that in this thread.
It would only matter if you're going to do lots of conversions.
They look like 1 piece models, that will maybe need some flash removing at most and gluing to a base. So much easier than a GW 15 piece humanoid model where every tiny piece needs mould line removing and carefully gluing.
I get the hatred for metal if it's like an old dragon/demon model with overly heavy wings or similar that need pinning etc, but not single piece humanoid size models.
Each can have their own opinion. Mine is that flash and mould removal is so much less convenient than plastic that it makes cleaning the models actively unfun.
And well, after painting they chip much, much, muuuuuuch easier.
Of course, the fact that I own multiple 3d printers also makes me lean toward not metal, given how much easier to clean is resin and little it chips
I’ve seen some nice space zombies out there, and looking forward to the expansion. However, I have Zombiecide Invader, so definitely don’t need any more
Yeah, I've got Plague Zombies for Plague Zombies, Plague Troopers for Soldier Zombies, and Plague Bursters for Bloat Zombies. I was already considering statting up the plagued as themed baddies to replace pirates, but once again Joe has provided something I was considering before I could get around to it!
By the old schoolyard metric where you compare your hands to your face, jazz hands guy definitely has cancer. But who has the guts to administer that test?
I love the battle astronaut. it's so chunky but still businesslike. it reminds me of an early 90's shooter protagonist. Doomguy in zero G. I would be all over it if they made a whole plastic set like that.
I'd like the alien Code Breaker, but it comes with the Hacker figure which was a stretch goal for the Stargrave Nickstarter, and I don't need a second of that hacker.
My Quarantine 37 pre-order from Northstar arrived today. The two new backgrounds are Aristocrat and Hunter, both of which use new Powers included in the expansion. Aristocrats start with more money and their ship can start with an Upgrade. Hunters are good at hunting beasts, and can get extra Exp with one of their Powers when they down one.
There are also six new Soldiers, both regular and Specialist. For example, a new Specialist is the Gunfighter for that two gun mojo.
We knew about the space zombies already, but you also
Spoiler:
fight bugs, so those folk who have built WGA giant spiders already can look forward to using them.
There are eight competitive scenarios which can be played as a linked campaign. A solo campaign is included: basically modifying some of the competitive scenarios for solo play.
My thoughts also.
Really excited to see how they visualize space bugs. There's so many different variants already in Sci Fi games, movies and books...
I am mostly hoping for something less spidery and xenomorphy and more... bug*gy...
I'd be all over space bugs. Still miffed that Mantic has space bugs in their sci-fi setting with no models outside Dreadball but Deadzone 3 is releasing with existing space rats sculpts and they're following up with, get this, hard plastic ork kommandos.
The Quarantine 37 space bugs are very much alien-critter bugs, not alien-bugs-with-guns. There's Drones, Warriors, Acid-Spewers, Royal Guard, and a Queen.
The bug campaign is pretty much an Aliens loot-n-scoot, with the Firefly crew instead of Colonial Marines.
Psychopomp wrote: The Quarantine 37 space bugs are very much alien-critter bugs, not alien-bugs-with-guns. There's Drones, Warriors, Acid-Spewers, Royal Guard, and a Queen.
The bug campaign is pretty much an Aliens loot-n-scoot, with the Firefly crew instead of Colonial Marines.
Sounds like some Tyranid models could be used without any problems as long as they have no 'rifles' etc. Tyrant Guard basically screams Royal Guard.
Psychopomp wrote: The Quarantine 37 space bugs are very much alien-critter bugs, not alien-bugs-with-guns. There's Drones, Warriors, Acid-Spewers, Royal Guard, and a Queen.
The bug campaign is pretty much an Aliens loot-n-scoot, with the Firefly crew instead of Colonial Marines.
Yes. These are Ants in SPAAAAAACE!, not tool using insect-like humanoids. Since I don't have any suitable minis, I first thought of the WGA spiders, but giant ants would be a better match.
As for Northstar doing plastic bugs ... They haven't said anything, so it seems unlikely. After all they are making the space zombies in metal, not a PYO plastic kit. Probably saving the money for the next expansion, Stargrave: The Last Prospector {26 April 2022}. When it was announced earlier in this thread, we started wishlisting what we'd like to see in a plastic kit. Mainly more tools for prospectors and shipwrights/shipbreakers, as the existing kits are limited in that area.
RGD Gaming was at one time said to be working on hard plastic giant ants with optional rayguns ala WGA giant spiders as their next project, but there hasn't been any news in a while.
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