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Yak, don't get any ideas about the VG section, either. I use it.

Da Boss wrote:This comment makes me happy. I like it when people who disagree with me say silly things.

Thank you Boss. I needed a new quote for my Sig anyway.

Manchu wrote:

Augustus wrote:How about we just kill the OT forum altogether?

Banning political and religious discussion amounts to this, IMO. And, how about we don't?

The time for the knife to remove this cancer has passed,..

Fetch the torch!

So those in opposition to OT are the true source of flaming . . . as expected.

whatwhat wrote:

Orlanth wrote:Wargamers are the second highest IQ group by hobby or social setting after astronomers.

As flattering as that is where did you pull it from?

Did you know that 73.4% of all statistics are made up?
Well, now you know...

Well, I think that politics atleast is a subject which is interesting to discuss. However, some people may take it a bit too far sometimes, but everyone has the right to believe in what they think is right, even Nazists and communists have a right to have their opinions.

But I don't think it should be allowed to write something that's in any way rascism or such, no matter to whom it's directed.

Religion too is an interesting topic, and yet again everyone have the right to believe in their own religion. But again, religions may clash pretty hard against another since of different views of morale and such, and often tend to get heated when two people who strongly believes in two different religions are arguing about something. Just remember that in religon, there's nothing right or wrong.

Myself I'm a proud Odinistic, Patriot-Democratic Skinhead. Although I never want people to mix up my religion, political view and lifestyle as that may look pretty bad (Just look at the american neo-nazi boneheads that call themselves odinists, whom are extremely patriotic and are.. something that's supposed to look like Skinheads. On first view people tend to stereotype me as one of those >.< )

I like to discuss both Politics and Religion, but once again, I'm not the one to decide wether Dakka is the right place or not.

If you don't want to censor people (and that's not always a bad thing, despite it's connotations), I would say set up an unmoderated forum, that people can post to at their own risk. Then, it's up to the members to be adults, and not the mods to be babysitters...

-Dave

I dont think religious discussions should be aloud , im not saying you cant belive in god or anying thing like that but it does up set people , if some one says some thing offensive or a word that up sets you just ignore them , and dont go ranting about how you cant speak words like jesus , i think people sould just try to get along on dakka , arrguments about the games is still okay ... i think.

Any words can be offensive... I say let 'er rip!

I agree; it should be out! People have deep values and no discussion will change their mind. Maybe light comments on topic.
I was working at a game co. We had a Priest call. [ I thought I was going to get torn up]
He is in favor of 40K. [Even if the good guys have mohawks and skulls] He said:" God has rules and so does the game." He went on about how the players were doing much better in school.
That is the deepest we should go in the forums.

While I'm all for it, most threads are quickly locked because of trolls and flaming

so I voted them off

If any of people who are voting for religious and political discussion to be banned actually READ the OT forum, they would know that there is currently a 5 page thread on religion which is totally free from flaming.*

Seriously, I have never seen any of you post in the OT forum - what's your problem?





*I put that down to an absence of The ShumaGorath Show.

Butthurt zealot is butthurt. I say no topic is too sacred for off topic. Let the inquisition commence. Goody Proctor is a witch!

Perhaps a seperate forum specifically for it? That way those who want it can find it, and those who don't can avoid it?

I don't care either way. As long as it stays in its appropriate place I have no problem with it, if the admins deem it needs to be banned, it wont hurt my feelings either. I stay away from such parts because it ruins forums for me. I'm here to get and give advice, sell some paint jobs perhaps and talk about how much heretic arse is gonna get kicked when the Lion wakes up, not discuss the current state of affairs.

No, unless it is about Politics and Religion in the Fluff of the games themselves.

I enjoy conversing about Religion.

It allows everyone's inner angry marine come out and say hi

No. and personally I see no value for an "off topic" discussion forum. There's plenty of open space on sites like Fark to fight over silly stuff.

The one problem I see with the off topic forum us that it may change a person' neutral feelings that had to negative feelings because they don't agree with that person's religious or political beliefs and use that to critisize them in other forums.

Off topic means off topic. If people don't like it...don't censure it...just don't read it.

I don't care either way. OT isn't a place I visit much. I only posted my opinion because I am trying to bump my post count over 100 before the end of the day.

Get rid of religious and political discussion it's boring, has too much flaming and there's too much of it.

I dont think its appropriate or relative. Its just a outlet for aggravation.

Last I checked this is a gaming forum site...

There are HUNDREDS of forums out there dedicated to political and/or religion discussions... Go there.

My thoughts too
It is often just an excuse for aggressive and abusive proselytising.

I guess if so many people get so upset, there could be an "strictly for the non-pussies" sub-category of off-topic threads, so the off-topic one can stay a safe haven for quiche recipies and such, instead of crazy debates and inflamed opinionated views to be tossed around. I know where I would spend my time. Gnolls love quiche! I guess the title could be less loaded language, just to be nice... something like "off-topic: non-political/non-religious" and "off-topic: anything goes"

Albatross seems to have hit the nail on the head that most of the people calling for it to be abolished don't even post in the OT board to begin with.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

whatwhat wrote:

Orlanth wrote:Wargamers are the second highest IQ group by hobby or social setting after astronomers.

As flattering as that is where did you pull it from?

Did you know that 73.4% of all statistics are made up?
Well, now you know...

omfg that pie chart it hilarious.

Anyways, Back on topic: I really didn't know what to think but this but I guess it's an old thread and after reading most of it I do think it should stay. I blame Manchu, he has superpowers of reasonabilty or something.

absolutely allow it and let the mods sort them out lol