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Okay, now that I go that out of the way, I just would like to say art is making people feel emotions as the artist did while making the piece. Even if it is erect.

Cryonicleech wrote:Alright...

Nudity is, technically, art. Even in a miniature form. So, they have a right to do so.

But, I'm sick of mini's with the overly sized "Assets", who do absolutely nothing but show off their "Assets".

Come on! You're in the middle of a damn battlefield, show some common sense (rather than skin) and get yourself some armor of some kind.

Hedonistic Pleasure Daemons would be, of course, incomplete without said "Assets", and are excused from the above argument.

I agree.

The same is true in most stories of heroic-fantasy. Mail G-string everywhere, seriously ?

Where is the 'only if it makes sense in the context of the miniature' button? I suppose that's 'Other' but seeing as how many people have replied as such, I reckon the poll could have done with one.

Chalk me up for the anti-chainmail bikini, pro-pervy daemons camp. That having been said, I'd probably feel odd painting a Slaaneshi daemon prince's Gentleman Jim. I suppose it would be an experience that would help me grow as a person.

It's only a model

I'm okay with it, in fact sometimes it's hilarious such as this one guy's conversion of the Deceiver which looks like Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen in all his blue nude glory

I know some troops go to work without getting clothes on (most being daemons) but I have seen 7 yr olds playing

Could care less, but I'm surprised I haven't seen the Imperial Guard - Eldar gang rape diorama.

There are lots of young people around so...

My biggest beef with nude miniatures is that they tend to be poorly sculpted and end up being very off-putting.

I don't mind it on other people's armies, but I like to keep mine decent at the very least. Christian household.

I really want to say that I care about nudity on models, but at the end of the day it's just a plastic/metal/resin facsimile of the same stuff that people have. If someone wants to sculpt an ork dong or show some pirate breasts, it's not that big of a deal. Unless it's a dwarf. No dwarves are ever allowed to be naked. EVER.

I've got nothing wrong with nudity on minis, in fact, I think it's hilarious, especially that Inifinity model with that thong wearing nun. The only problem I have is....does that thong have any tactical advantage whatsoever???

I say as long as it adds to the feel of the army (which armies I don't know) and it isn't overdone, I'm cool with it.

Wargaming is not for just for children. Kids do play but thats not the point. Art is littered with nakedness and its not a problem.

On display miniatures, absolutely. I don't think nudity belongs in an army that gets played on the table top in public.

The only thing I have a problem with is practicallity. If you have a prostitute model, you can have all the cleavage/leggedness you want. But if you have a warrior/knight, an iron bra will not keep you alive.

You know how in 4chan how they have nude and even outright pornographic homebrewed 40K artwork? (Like the Tyranid I have started to call a "tittygaunt"). The people who like drawing that or go for that are the kinds of people who would buy quantities of minis with boobs. The same thing with the $180 statuettes of anime girl characters with removable clothes. Are these guys that lonely, or do they just have an overactive drive?

Men who have a woman to come home to are (generally) a lot less interested in such things. Those that still are probably have a hard time holding onto those items with a woman having a say-so. The only people I know who seriously buy minis with huge cleavage are complete neckbeards. There was a time when I would have hesitantly admitted I wanted those things... 10 years ago when I was 16. Now I just want to play the game.

I'm not denying that the minis I've seen are art. I'm not denying that they are tasteful art. Frankly. I find nudity completely inoffensive. I'm not even denying that the models are pleasing to the eye for me. But if you for one minute think that someone sculpted the master model with the impression that buyers would spend money on it's artistic value alone, you're deceiving yourself about the virtues of humanity.

Regardless, I couldn't take myself seriously charging a group of murderous zealots with an army of Taarna clones from Heavy Metal (let's see who remembers that one). That's why I voted the "time and place, but not wargames" option.

only on the women

4DChan is comedic. So big difference there and you can just 'not look at the website'.

I don't mind nudity, not in the least. But when it's sexual or or obscene or done in a way that cannot be construed as tasteful, it's easy to say "don't buy those minis, not up to other people to raise your kids" but when they're in that "safe place" the FLGS and they're right there on the table....big difference. Kids are usually (or should be) okay with nudity. If not, take them to a freaking art gallery already - great places to run around as a little tacker. But there is a line.

And yes, the stupid obsession with stupid corsets drives me insane. Even my limited release female commissar is wearing a damn corset. Put some clothes on! For Emperor's sake you're in the middle of a war! Every woman who does martial arts or paintballing or is in the armed forces or anything like that knows this. It drives me and all my female-gamer friends nuts the prediliction for corsets and chainmail bikinis (esp as a lot of us have done medieval fighting at the very least).

To have female combatants in the Guard, you don't need to change the bodies. They're bulked up under armour and fatigues, just more feminine looking heads. They don't need corsets and cleavage.

I agree with Goddard though that if it is 'appropriate to the model' and in context. Not power armour that shows how big their girls are though.

Nudity is the same as violence on models. If you are going to show a Khorne figure drinking its victim's blood, the same level of extreme is allowed for the Slaanesh figure.

Showing a models that has is intestines spewing out is no better than a naked elf, and in some ways worse.

To me, a fluffy army is the most important thing. If you can defend your modelling and painting decisions from a fluff point of view, then anything goes - I will never get offended. To me it is hypocritical that you can depict armies like The Purge (infamous CSM nurgle warband) comitting genocide and using their dozer blades to push piles of the dead out of the way, but can't show some Dark Eldar slavemaster whipping naked disobedient slaves (in a Golden Daemon competition for example).
I don't really like the idea of kids in the 40K hobby (or Warhammer fantasy for that matter, although that is not as bad), but GW seems to need the money they bring to the hobby. If you ask me GW should make a more child oriented game, perhaps still located somewhere in the 40K universe. When the kids then grow up, then they would quickly be able to adopt their playstyle and create a new and fitting army for the real 40K. I don't mind kids as gamers per se, I just don't want to make space for them and be caucious with them when it is my hobby that is on the line.

if war , death , demons , mass attrocities , murder , evil magic , gore and extreame violence and demoinc man eating aliens don't bother you ... boobies shouldn't either !

Darkness wrote:Showing a models that has its intestines spewing out is no better than a naked elf, and in some ways worse.

I find that level of gore and violence significantly more offensive than the slave girls on Asdrubael Vect's love boat. Yes, the game and many others are set in a warzone with terribly horrific weapons, but that doesn't mean the minis need to be spilling their guts. Same applies to television and movies to me... for example, the Saw series is just as debased as the most shameless of "adult films" if not more so.

I normally don't mind it but if the person using the model is a creep, I mind. My definition of "creep"? A 50 something dude who is best described as "Buffalo Bill" but in a fatter, lispy way.


I suppose it's all in context. If you are not a perv and have questionable ethics, go nuts. Pedophiles use porn to allure children. I'm not saying my example above is one but lets just say I wouldn't trust my niece with him.

I dont really mind it. :/

All depends upon context. If you know you are going to be around little kids, don't be too sexual. But forbidding a thing only increases that thing's attraction.

With the gothic theme that is in 40k you get certain styles of art, some include nudity. You see it in stained glass windows, statues, hulking betamoths of metal and guns... But if your going to do that sort of stuff keep it the same kind of stuff.

The only way you should sneek in anything dodgey is on the inside of an IG charmera, and then glue it closed.

Armor is for the cool people. Nudity not. Go watch some random music videos ^^

1d4chan on Eldar Farseers: "You know, I think the bigger their breasts are, the stronger psykers they are."

I chose "Everybody should be wearing full suits of armour at all times" because for the most part, we are playing WARgames after all.

otherwise, I really don't mind nudity, people put work into designing, sculpting, and painting these models, I consider them art. Just as long as its all tasteful
nudity on miniatures, sure
hardcore xxx pron on miniatures..........no