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APOCALYPSE has provided the rules for a Warlord Titan, so I can no longer resist the urge to build one.

There are different conflicting source materials to work from so I decided to shoot for something like what is picutred in the APOCALYPSE rulebook.

I'm using ArmorBimbo Crusader Plans for my starting point, it's basically after all a Warlord Knockoff

Basic Body Core


The body core is just thin cardboard like you would get from a cereal box.

I got an idea for an alternative thigh joins


A quick unfold and some new cuts planned


A snip here and there, and a hole added for a core rod


New hip with ball joints (No Ping Pongs were hurt making this)


Core Body assempled with a pencil running through the middle to hold it together and to allow rotation


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Leg assembled


Legs next to core with shoulders attached


The sholder armor is based on a JSV Warhound Titan Plans.
They had the shape I wanted, and I really had no idea what size I wanted, so I used them as a staring point.

Rear Engine pieces again courtesy of the Warhound Titan



Front armor base plates


Not from any set of plans, I just measured them to fit and tried to get the look from the Warlord picture


It already stands about 16+ inches, without feet, a waist, or shoulder weapons.
I expect the feet and waist to add at least another 4 inches in height.

I'm not in a big rush to put it together just yet, as I want to do a bit of posing with the legs.
At the very least I'll have the left foot crushing something, but I don't know what.


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Another interesting project I was wondering though... why do you use cardboard instead of a firmer substance like plasticard?

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Thank you for taking an interest, and good question!!

a few reasons actually.

1.) I don't really know what I'm doing
I'm doing this on the fly, all orky like.
Measure once, cut till it fits.

2.) This is a core layer
I intend on adding a 'skin' layer of plasticard that will have all the details and add extra reinforcement.

3.) Cardstock is just good stuff
It's cheap
It's plentifull
It's easy to work with
Did I mention it was cheap ?

4.) I only have access to 1mm plasticard
If I had an ample supply of thicker plasticard I may have been tempted to use it. 1mm plasticard just isn't ideal for such large structures, without lots of internal reinforcement, which would have been alot more labor.

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Soo tired, I can barely see straight.

Got the basic structure of the feet finished and then spent half an hour staring at teh apocalypse rule book trying to figure out what weapon choices I need to build and tried to figure out how I'm going to make his head.

Going to try to get the waist put together tommorow morning after I get some sleep. I'm thinking something square with two cylinders on the side will work.

Once I get that swared away I wasn't to take a pic of the whole thing test fit together next to some 40k models to get a better sense of the scale.


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Basic Head - It's vaguely human shaped, but I don't know if it's big enough for the cockpit I want.


Leg with foot core - Just shown for an idea for size


I'm planning on adding 5 toes, an ankle, and lots of armor

Another pic of the foot core next to one of my Kans

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I had to go look up some pics of a epic warlord titan just now to refresh my memory and try and see what you are attempting with the leg, but now that I have I think it is going to look cool when it is finished. I assume that you have basically made the 'core' leg there and are going to wrap the big warlord armour plates around it after that? The head looks to be a promising shape. Always interesting to read (even if other people are being very quiet just watching this thread), but keep it coming cos I am enjoying it!

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You are correct about my plans for the leg. I'm going to make a plate that warps around the front of the leg and overlaps the foot.

Right now I'm working on the size of the 5 toes and the 3 cathederal aperatures I want to add that the leg armor needs to wrap around.

Just got my new scanner, so things are looking good.

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It's a low polygon count Titan! That really does look cool. The torso is comming along great for just winging it. Keep it up. I'm looking forward to seeing this one done.
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Thank you for the kind words.

It's a low polygon count Titan!


That's one of it's biggest draws to me.

Years ago I had the Armorcast Reaver and Warhound but sold them off because they were just to soft and curvy for my taste. When they released the Forgeworld Warhound and the Epic Emperor Titan with much more flat surfaces they really began to appeal to me.

I definitely intend on finishing this project. Aside from it just looking cool, I have an actual use for it on the battle field. A gaming buddy of mine has the Armorcast Gargant and Epicast Stompa and the ambition to field a "Green Tide" Apocalypse Detachment against me. I need something to combat the Orky Menace !!!

I'm trying to keep copies of all the custom templates I'm using as I go along, so there is also a very real possibility of me making a second Warlord Titan once this one is completed


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That is just staggering in it's scale. What are you using inside the legs to support the whole thing? PVC?
I gotta say, I am really impressed so far. That is going to be a really cool model when it is done.

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That is excellent work indeed! As I see the number of people doing this sort of thing, it certainly gets me interested in doing it myself!

Look forward to updates, really excellent work.

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The whole thing, so far, is just thin but sturdy cardboard, kinda like cereal box cardboard but a bit thicker and stronger, clear tape, and Super Tacky Craft Glue.

Almost all of it is renforced internally with little cardboard boxes I made on the fly to fit in the gaps.



The whole thing is remarkabley sturdy, and alot lighter than resin.

The feet are almost 4" across now, and that's without the toes attached, so stability hasn't been a problem. I fear it may get a little front heavy after I add a vulcan megabolter and volcano cannon, but I'm optomistic that this will be solved by weighting whatever item the left foot will be crushing.

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Okay, color me slightly annoyed.

I showed a 40K buddy my WIP and he told me I was doing it all wrong. After I told him he should take a long walk on a short pier I dug out the APOCALYPSE rule book and showed him the pic. He insisted that wasn't what a Warlord Titan looked like, and I decided to google it.

This is what I found


The Modern Epic Model and the Apocalyspe artowrk are different.

GRRRRRrrrrRRRrrr.........

I like the Epic model better.....
Except the feet....

I sense a bastard hybrid is in the works.

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Just sketched out the the thigh armor

(DELETED OLD IMAGE - NEW VERSION INCLUDED LATER IN THREAD)

In the process of re-working the lower leg to include an ankle like the Apoc version. I should have templates for that by tonight.

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Work in Progress Templates for the lower leg



The piece in the upper right needs to be trimmed down, but I'm going to use this once and cut it down on the model and then rescan it to duolicate it for the other leg. This way is just easier than tryihng to figure out the geometry

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The Titans are different because one is the Mars Pattern and the Other is the Luscius(sp?) pattern. Basically one's more rounded, while the other is angular.
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Yeah, I grasped that there were multiple verisions, but it's not just the difference between round and hard surfaces. The armor configerations, the heads, and the feet are quite different.

Different enough I had to do some radicall redesign


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Speaking of redesign...

New Leg - now with an ankle !!



Here's a concept sketch for the new chest armor design I'm going with






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First Piece of the facial armor.

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Bastard hybrids should always be your goal.

Excelsior!

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Redid the Thigh Armor plates to have the angular shape of the Epic Model.



I extended mine slightly higher on purpose to protect the hip joint better.

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Finished revising the Leg templates to include room for ankle piece.

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I've isolated the armor plates I need to construct and got alot of practice with my digital editing skills



I also got sidetracked designing a futristic train for scenery, but I haven't built it yet

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adamsouza wrote:I also got sidetracked designing a futristic train for scenery, but I haven't built it yet


Finish the titan first It looks really interesting so far, I am very interested in seeing the final product!

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Yeah, my M.A.D.D. (Modelling Attention Deficit Disorder) kicked into full effect as I figured a good way to get hand drawn plans scanned and turned into nice looking digital plans.

I built two new ankles and a new lower leg, and I have to pieces of thigh armor waiting to be built.

Which was amazing because I also changed the legs on on of my Kans, built a new Kan body type, got most of the way through designing a STC Train and about a quarter of the way through designing a Mutant Death Van for SHOCKFORCE, because I started to get involved in WARENGINE again.

I'll probably take a break tonight becuase I need to get up got a 6:30 hospital visit for the birth of my son.

My wife will be in the hospital for the next 3 nights after that, so I figure on getting alot of modelling done

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Congratulations! But now I cant help but wonder... is this really a titan for gaming, or is it in fact the start of power armour for your son?

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If I knew how to turn titans into power armor, I would be working on an Imperator Titan for myself

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adamsouza,
I love your titan, and thanks for the comments and critisism of mine ( I actualy mean that). Anyway, If you would like some measurements off of mine, I can do it. The basic stucture is only a few LARGE pieces of plasticard. I know that you like the look Mk. 3 Warlord, but what do you think of the slightly older Mk 2? It has plenty of flat surface area too, and looks to be even easier to build. I have included a pic of a scratch built one.
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Thanks for the kind words Cuda!!

I would really appreciate the measurements off of your Warlord Titan. At the very least it will give me an idea of what size I should be dealing with. The torso and shoulders of your titan looked really great and it would be a great help.

I also dig the MKII, but I'm pretty much set on the MKIII, as you call it, appearance.

Thanks for the pic though, I'll be keeping it for inspiration.

Update on my titan


HEAD - I have a pretty good Idea on how I'm going to do the head armor, but I just haven't had the time to lay it out on paper. I have it pretty much all figured out in my mind.

LEGS - New Lower Legs are built, Upper legs are now armored, just need to put them together.

FEET - Need to work out the sive and appearance of teh toes. I might just try the Warhound toes and work from there.

TORSO - removed the angular armor I was working on. Going to replace it with masisive front armor plates and bigger shoulders with weapon mounts

ARMS - Haven't started them yet. I know I want a Vulcan MegaBolter and Volcano Cannon, but I don't know what I want on the shoulder mounts yet.
They Warlord Tian can not fire the shoulder weapoins at targets closer than 24", and that alone prevents me from going silly with a trio of vulcan megabolters.
I need to find a ruling of wether you measure from the weapon or from the base of the model.



The second leg is bent at the knee. This will give it the appearance of motion. It's a little detail but it makes a big difference.

The MKII is pretty cool looking, but it's stance isn't dynamic at all. All the old Armorcast titans were that way. It's one of the reasons the new Warhound looks soo much better.
The FW Warhound always looks like it's in motion and the Armrocast one looks like it's lining up for a mug shot

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My newest creation !!!

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