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Sasorijap wrote:

Same for me. I have developed a strong aversion to buying miniatures that I can only use in one game though, so it's on me rather than Para Bellum.

Again i find this argument moot because if you play AoS or 40K you can't use the old world miniatures for anything else. The scale is too different.

Which is why I also avoid GW games and miniatures.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is a size and price comparison really adversarial? Every time I buy generic loratadine with it’s “compare to Claritin” label, I’m supporting hostile marketing?

Calling it hostile marketing does sound a touch dramatic, but yes, I'd considered direct comparisons between products adversarial marketing. I also don't think Conquest would benefit from it long term.

Reveals from the Happy Hour! Sorcerer Kings + New stuff!

Link to full product catalogue: https://www.flipsnack.com/conquestcatalogue/conquest-2024-winter-spring-catalog/full-view.html

Thanks! The rakshasas look pretty great along with the Djinn.

God I was looking forward to these but..... yeah they just don't land for me at all

Hopefully weaver courts end up being as novel as the spires were, it'd give me the excuse i've been looking for to try conquest for the last several years

Grunk wrote:
God I was looking forward to these but..... yeah they just don't land for me at all

Hopefully weaver courts end up being as novel as the spires were, it'd give me the excuse i've been looking for to try conquest for the last several years

Which models specifically out of curiosity? No shame in not liking some/most/all/whatever as I'm not a fan of all of them either but I was just wondering.

I think the armored dudes rock. The burning guys, not so much.

New 2000 point Army Sets are available now. A good way to see how much a full army list costs.

Cheapest one is the Old Dominion one for 399$.

I think the hero units are quite bland, they went in a more turkish/indian direction but didn't really make most of the units ornate/they look like early renders and will be very reliant on the painter to make them decent looking.

The mughal looking infantry's fine but not especially wowey, some of the djinn/efreet stuff is okay but not getting me out of my seat, the big guy they teased looks like he's missing a lot of detail, and the turban wearing fire unit's posing and lack of detail doesn't inspire.

New 5th Anniversary One Player Starter Sets. They will replace the previous One Players for 2024. Some great value and variety in these.

Painted Efreet from the Sorcerer Kings!

Having gotten to look at the footsoldiers I think i was a bit harsh, these are definitely a step up in terms of being less chunky, and the inf has some very nicely balanced details, enough to not be boring while not going too far.

Oh wow those Efreet are sweet, if nothing else I'll get them to use as Fire Elementals in Kings of War.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh wow those Efreet are sweet, if nothing else I'll get them to use as Fire Elementals in Kings of War.

There a dual kit. I think the Flamecasters variant will work better for that

Very substantive rules update due to drop Monday (from the Happy Hour Stream). Characters in particular are changing in how they operate (Retinues are effectively removed and some of those upgrades are now baked into the respective characters themselves). General balance changes across the board and some more special rules added in. Full Sorcerer Kings lists dropping at the same time. No doubt there's screenshots available.

Some Sorcerer Kings Characters

Sorcerer Kings rules overview video. I just skimmed through it but didn't see any new model previews though.

It’s a shame two of those characters have weak poses.

I am now the proud owner of the Para-Bellum Wooden Spoon.

Sorcerer Kings One Player Starter Set

JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Very substantive rules update due to drop Monday (from the Happy Hour Stream). Characters in particular are changing in how they operate (Retinues are effectively removed and some of those upgrades are now baked into the respective characters themselves). General balance changes across the board and some more special rules added in. Full Sorcerer Kings lists dropping at the same time. No doubt there's screenshots available.

That's huge news. Retinues were always kind of a hassle to me, and I am curious how this pans out.

Thanks for the heads up.

Heh, not sure how I feel about retinues being gone. They were an interesting concept though one which I don't think was very well implemented. Its not a big loss, IMO, as I never really bothered with them anyway, but uh... what are we supposed to do with the retinue minis we already have?

They will be legal models for unit officers

chaos0xomega wrote:
Heh, not sure how I feel about retinues being gone. They were an interesting concept though one which I don't think was very well implemented. Its not a big loss, IMO, as I never really bothered with them anyway, but uh... what are we supposed to do with the retinue minis we already have?

I was wondering something similar. Will infantry heroes always just be by themselves on a stand now? or can we add three models just to look better / count as wounds, etc.?

They explained that due to retinues constantly being taken as upgrade, several not even being out, and them saying you NEEDED about 2 characters for a 2000pt army, having models be upgrades was a difficult sell. adding a 140$ price tag to the game
Now they will just be a package of officer upgrades

I read the new army list.
I think it's a good thing that retinue is no longer available because there is no sign that it will be completed no matter how long it takes.
The third sub faction of the Sorcerer Kings, the Tribe mentioned during the vote has been erased.
I feel it lacks integrity to not promote the characters that were used to promote the vote, such as this and there is no announce Old Dominion's Burning Angel.

The update is live. Very interesting rules for the Sorcerer Kings from the first read i did.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Heh, not sure how I feel about retinues being gone. They were an interesting concept though one which I don't think was very well implemented. Its not a big loss, IMO, as I never really bothered with them anyway, but uh... what are we supposed to do with the retinue minis we already have?

I was wondering something similar. Will infantry heroes always just be by themselves on a stand now? or can we add three models just to look better / count as wounds, etc.?

They suggested on stream that you can effectively customize character stands to be as elaborate as desired so long as it doesn't affect gameplay and the character models themselves are clear.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Heh, not sure how I feel about retinues being gone. They were an interesting concept though one which I don't think was very well implemented. Its not a big loss, IMO, as I never really bothered with them anyway, but uh... what are we supposed to do with the retinue minis we already have?

I was wondering something similar. Will infantry heroes always just be by themselves on a stand now? or can we add three models just to look better / count as wounds, etc.?

They suggested on stream that you can effectively customize character stands to be as elaborate as desired so long as it doesn't affect gameplay and the character models themselves are clear.

Good to know, thank you. I'm hoping for a summary of the changes to appear on YouTube; for some reason I have a hard time remembering and wrapping my head around the rules of
this game.