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Posted By Commander Usiel on 09/22/2007 7:20 AM
I love it. ^.^

There are NEVER enough mechs in the world. Also I never thought I would like a 'bristly' mech, unless it was bristling with guns - Kudos!

My only suggestion... how about some co-axil autoguns or bolters under the 'chin' or on the sides of the turret.

I kinda like that idea.

Could be mounted like the zzap gun on da orkenburg.

I want this one to be a vindicator replacement for now, so the autoguns or bolters don't really fit with my plan.

But one thing I would like to do for apocalypse, if the rules are there, is a twin linked Vulcan Mega-BolterRange: 60? Str6 AP3 Heavy 15 a mech equipped with that....

OOooooooh....*drool

I meant use them as a Proxy for a Pintle mounted Stormbolter, or can't Chaos Vindicators take them? ( I don't have the 4th ed Codex yet =( ) Well it's a suggestion, I still think it rocks as is.

wOOt! Vulcan Mega Bolters XD 15 dice of pure DAKKA!!!! ~Drools with you~

Posted By Commander Usiel on 09/23/2007 3:57 AM
I meant use them as a Proxy for a Pintle mounted Stormbolter, or can't Chaos Vindicators take them?

Sorry, I was a bit vague coz I typed it so quick...

What I meant was I'm not putting any additional weapons on them coz vindicators will get targetted pretty heavily, most people will make sure they go down so extra guns are extra points I couldn't be bothered forkin out for.  The chaos vindies can take either a twin linked bolter, a havoc or a combi-weapon as well as the main cannon, but I'll save the points for elsewhere.

Thanks for the comments though, I'll be doing more work on them tomorrow. The intention is to make three in total so i think I'll start that on the morrow.

Extra spiky x 2. Love it. Don't run while carrying it, however.

Well today I started playing around with the dread...why?  Coz I wanted to, that's why.

Here's the original pic they have in the chaos codex, so much better than the nasty old dread they made out of it:



Here's the parts I've updated so far:



And beside the box and the vin-diesel....

He is so spiky!

Quite awesome, and looking forward to what ever you're doing with the old fugly dread. That sketch is nice and demented in the new book, but if it weren't you I'd be skeptical about salvaging Tiny McMetal the dread

- Salvage

Here's todays udpate.  Haven't been well and I haven't had much inspiration for the CCW's on the dread.  I want this to be a 2 ccw dread with a heavy flamer and a twinlinked bolter, but I have yet to develop the ccw's so that I like them...

Been stuffing around with ideas and they look stoopid.  Feel free to give me some ideas, I'm at a loss at the moment.

At least there are rivets in this update...lol

I LOVE that scourge thing in the art. I think if you could make something that looked as wicked, maybe with wire, it would be extrememly fitting.

Posted By Lemmingspawn on 09/22/2007 11:51 PM
I want this one to be a vindicator replacement for now, so the autoguns or bolters don't really fit with my plan.

But one thing I would like to do for apocalypse, if the rules are there, is a twin linked Vulcan Mega-BolterRange: 60” Str6 AP3 Heavy 15 a mech equipped with that....

OOooooooh....*drool

If you're talking about some sort of VDR rules in Apoc, I got to look at it the other day and I didn't see any indication of a VDR anywhere in the book. Considering how big the VDR rules are I'm doubtful I just missed it.

That said, I'm sure people will be open to wacky house rules in Apoc anyway.

 

 

Posted By yakface on 09/25/2007 9:14 PM

Posted By Lemmingspawn on 09/22/2007 11:51 PM
I want this one to be a vindicator replacement for now, so the autoguns or bolters don't really fit with my plan.

But one thing I would like to do for apocalypse, if the rules are there, is a twin linked Vulcan Mega-BolterRange: 60” Str6 AP3 Heavy 15 a mech equipped with that....

OOooooooh....*drool

If you're talking about some sort of VDR rules in Apoc, I got to look at it the other day and I didn't see any indication of a VDR anywhere in the book. Considering how big the VDR rules are I'm doubtful I just missed it.

That said, I'm sure people will be open to wacky house rules in Apoc anyway.

 

 

I agree with Yak,

people will see this and pretty much have their jaws drop and forget things like strict rules because it will be awesome to play with such a walker on the table,

it is really starting to look good, can't wait to see the fully green-stuffed and embelished version as it will be extremely good!

:-)

Rightio, I'm pretty happy with the dread now.  I decided to go with the power flail design and boy, it turned out heaps better than I thought.  I need to learn to trust my first impressions...

I feel that I've gotten it to the point where if I add too much more it'll be out of aesthetic balance, but feel free to give me new ideas that will help cinch it up another notch in how it looks.  Enough talk, onto le pikachus:



"I feel not for you, pitiful mortal.  I will not spare you, it shall not end quickly, for my unholy master will have is way with your essence."


What do you think?  I'm pretty happy with how it's turned out.

Easily, the best power flail design I have seen on any chaos dreadnought. The draped chains ever so nonchalantly over the chaos symbol is keen as well.

As far as the guitar strings. What do you use to bend them at such angles? It usually takes me a bit of time to work with the guitar wire to get it the shape I want, due to the tensile properties.

Is it a simple "two pairs of pliers, son. Dont poke your eye out" type of thing, or more work than that?

Some of the angles in the wire are so nice, it looks like you used a sheet metal "finger break" on them.

I think you managed to make the old metal chaos dread look cool and up to date...no small feat!!!

What's the brown stuff you use to make the bases? and sorry if you already covered the question somewhere.

Ah see, the flails were the way to go and you did it in an awesome way I did not expect. Kudos!

@migsula

The base looks like it's made of cork. And *very* nice look dread...

Definitely the coolest Old school chaos dread I've come across.

Those CCW's looks awesome and nasty. 

I'm sure the paint will come out amazing like everything else you do >.>...  (See:  Can't wait to see this thing finished ^_^!)

Thanks guys I surprised myself a bit on how it turned out coz I was a bit suspicious as to how it would look. I even did a photoshop mock up and it looked decent then too so I took the plunge! Glad it worked out, now I can go back to the vindicator and the GS work I have to do on it. After I model in the lava bubbles on the base of course...

[edit] Sorry Hellfury, I meant to say about the bending, there is no trick or special smoke and mirrors or anything.  I just used a pair of cutters to hold the wire and then bent them by hand.  The wires are guitar string and mild steel.  The guitar strings were the most compliant, but the mild steel was a bit tougher, you'll see there are a few overly bendy bits that I meant to have more angle in them.

I think the angles look so nice is because I hid the bend under rolled thin solder.  That gives it more of an angular look than if I hadn't done that.

@Migsula:  The bases are cork.  Simple old placemats I bought from a shop for their large corky properties.   Most of my large built up bases are built up on  layers of the same type of cork.  Then I just dig at it with a sharp tool and glue sand over any weird looking bits...

Ok, here's the little bit of work done today.  I might get some more done this weekend as I'm keen to get this vindie done, I want to see how it turns out in full before I decide if I'll make three based on the same design or not.

It's had some SRT (spike removal therapy) done on it because a few people have said there are too many and most importantly - my wife agrees... my most honest critic and my greatest support

Here's the pics:





I plan on transferring the infestation over the legs as well, and select other parts, but not as much as on the turret.  I'm thinking it's looking a bit nurgle...hmm

Let me know what you think.

One thing I realise, though, it needs rivets to make it look like it's actually coming toward completion.

That is looking great, especially the dread.  I do have a few questions.

One how do you make the rivets?

Two how did you switch the front plates next to the head?

Finally, what  did you use for the right CC arm, just like a BA furioso?

thanks

1 The rivets are easy, it really depends on what I am doing. For the dread, because I mainly need little tiny ones, I slice off pieces of really thin rod, some about 1mm and .75mm. Then once I have a pile, I'll make a small pool of superglue, pick up each rivet with the tip of a sharp scalpel/cutting blade and dip each rivet in superglue before gluing them in place. You can also use white glue/elmers glue/pva glue for this but be careful coz it takes heaps longer to dry so you'll knock them off if you don't wait till some of it's dry.

2 I switched the plates by cutting the entire front plate into 3 pieces using a stiff bladed craft saw

3 The right arm of the dread was scratchbuilt out of card and foamboard. A small metal piece was cut off the second CCW to make up the top hinge section of the 2nd ccw arm you get with the dread and the flails were pinned into that.

I'm not a fan of this particular design  - but still reserve the right to change my mind when you finish it. It just looks more chikeny than formidable to me in comparison to the dread and defiler of yours. I would make the "heel" parts of the feet much more robust looking and bigger to give sense of support. Also something to consider when detailing would be to build some nice piping and mechanism to alleviate the recoil of the huge gun.

Posted By migsula on 09/27/2007 2:14 AM
 Also something to consider when detailing would be to build some nice piping and mechanism to alleviate the recoil of the huge gun.

If you wanted to go a real world route with this, You could try creating a 'dampener' or two on the outside of the gun tube itself.  Basically it's just a small enclosed recoil device that can soak up huge amounts of the guns recoil. 

Here's a small example of what i'm talking about:



See that small git just behind that first support, the little cylinder? That's the dampener.  Granted this is a very small caliber compared to what you're modeling, but something similar can help the overall feel of the gun.  I think that thing accounts for about 50-75% of the recoil if I remember anything from the years I spent with it >.>...

I love the dred thing. It still needs more spike removal.

Ok I've done some more work on this today, which I don't normally do on a friday but today was special.

Here's some pics of my progress:





I'm considering removing one of the spiky leg plates completely and replacing it with a heavily plated one, making it one spiky and one plated.  I'm trying to think of how to do it and still make it work aesthetically, because the infestation is going beyond what I originally intended.  Bet some chaos general has heard that more often than I have.

Anyways, any comments or ideas or thoughts on that would be awesome.  I want to make this thing work in well with the rest of the army, and going overboard with infestation kinda isn't going to fit that well....

I love the Dread. What was said earlier is correct. You've made the old Dread look brand new, which is quite an achievement. Very, very cool model.

BYE

Ok, I've made some mods to the beast and I've started doing some extra work on it.  Now I'm having trouble working out what to do *BLING* wise.  Here are a few pics, lemme know which ones you like or which ones you reckon would work best - or even any suggestions are welcome, since this isn't an easy point on the model.

As to the mods, I've brought the legs a bit closer together and mounted them a bit higher, it seems to improve the overall aesthetic balance.  But some ideas to help me get past this roadblock would be really welcome

No bling:



Small bling:



Combo bling:



Large MR-T style bling:

IMO less is more in this case. Anyone can throw on a bunch of chains, but not everyone can do an awesome scratchbuild like you've done, so why obscure it? My votes goes to small bling, and even less than what you've got there now. I think the pattern of the chains on the leg is kind of funky, too.

I'm in the small chains camp.  Just feel right.

+1