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I managed to get hold of a Kratos set and Thunderhawk at my local FLGS, so a few of those must have been sent out into the wilds.

I see that some of the sets are bumped up in price on eBay (£45 for £30 sets, hopefully no one is desperate enough to oblige them).

I could do with a set of the infantry just to bump up a Mk6 assault squad but those seem to be out of stock everywhere.

ended up boosting my SA infantry, entirely because that was a set I could get. marines are printed but the plastic SA stuff I really like, can see a third box of them maybe later this week.

helps how fast they are to paint too

local shop has a couple of boxes of them, a few titans and thats about it (other than starter sets)

I picked up the flamer malcadors and the SA support box from Dark Sphere along with the book from GW. That's another £78. £363 in total.

wrong forum

 aphyon wrote:
i've been playing for over 20 years and the prices have gone up....so i can only ball park the figure-

3rd-5th ed armies at 1850-2k points+

dark angels-$500
.ravenwing-$300
.deathwing-$300
.Tau-$400
.sisters-$200 (used)
.nids-$300
.admech-$300
.salamanders-$700
.BFG-$200
.epic (9 armies worth or so for myself and others) $500+
.various terrain tables-$800
.odds and ends-$300

i am probably low balling the figure, but it's a lot.

You know this is a thread about Legion Imperiales, right?

I fear to do one for 28mm Heresy!

But you know what? Sod it! I’ll do one.

I have purchased 2 starter sets, 1 box of tanks and £50 worth 3d printed from etsy. (The 3d printed official gw stuff would of cost about £105 ) gw are really slow on manufacturing so I felt I had no choice but to turn to 3d printed gear.

I made back £80 on selling the imperial guard stuff and rule book for my two boxes.

I bought a Rhino box, so I'd put my tally at 34 euros...

...and holy feth. Is this really the less annoying of the sets to assemble? Because FOR FETH's SAKE, 11 pieces per fething Rhino is nuts. Not to speak of the seams all over the top of the model >_>

This has thorougly sold me off buying more kits -_- (well, of assembling them I guess. Same thing)

its a huge plus for 3d printing with Rhinos especially, and other none centrepiece models

bolter armed ones print in one lump, and its three bits if you want to vary the top hatches

the model ones are beautiful once assembled but far too much work for such a low point value model

leopard wrote:
its a huge plus for 3d printing with Rhinos especially, and other none centrepiece models

bolter armed ones print in one lump, and its three bits if you want to vary the top hatches

the model ones are beautiful once assembled but far too much work for such a low point value model

Doesn't feel like there's enough of a quality difference when compared with the 3d prints I already had, TBH. And it so much more aggravating. OTOH, I still love my old 1 piece Epic Rhinos, so eh.

I feel they've gone too far into the deep end, IMHO. And this is the easy kit...

Ordered Great Slaughter book, 3 box Spartans, 1of each support plus 2 box Malcadors so another £240 plus picked up 2 box of Rhinos in local store to bring spend for this month to £300

 Albertorius wrote:
I bought a Rhino box, so I'd put my tally at 34 euros...

...and holy feth. Is this really the less annoying of the sets to assemble? Because FOR FETH's SAKE, 11 pieces per fething Rhino is nuts. Not to speak of the seams all over the top of the model >_>

This has thorougly sold me off buying more kits -_- (well, of assembling them I guess. Same thing)

Rhinos were the most annoying kit I assembled

They did feel really annoying for me, that's for damn sure.

If one had access to the original blender files, it’d be pretty easy to updetail the STLs to be as good or better. Make a few panel lines a bit more pronounced, shrink some details down, add some rivets, some details around the gun feeds, that’s pretty much it. Guns on the official models are often a bit beefier than the stls. Infantry wise I think the 3D prints actually look better than the official models.

3d print technology means they can work with undercuts in the same way metal can but HIPS injection technology struggles with unless you have more expensive equipment

at this point I can print a block of 8 rhinos, including clean up and curing (excluding drying time though) to be ready to paint faster than I can assemble 8 from a kit with associated clean up - excluding glue curing time (basically curing & drying stuff happens overnight here so I tend to ignore it)

this also ignores the side ability if someone so desired to print in different colours (I just use grey here)

and the other huge advantage 3d printing has, it makes parts swaps very simple, e.g. take said rhino, one without top hatches, and add a top hatch commander from the quite impressive range thats out there, or reposition a weapon etc - this does require more time that download, slice & print though but it can be a lot easier especially at this scale than mucking about with plastic and a knife.

and is essentially what GW do internally anyway

it may be a while off but I can see GW eventually working with one of the 3d print firms doing licensed prints for some models - they will never distribute the files of course, not to individuals, but if they cannot get 3d print in house it would make a lot of sense for some of the more specialist stuff to go 3d print on demand

Biggest advantages of 3D printing for me have been once it's set up, it's quicker than assembling plastic models, the ability to put symbols on tanks (instead of having to use decals) and kit bashing models that don't exist.

leopard wrote:
it may be a while off but I can see GW eventually working with one of the 3d print firms doing licensed prints for some models - they will never distribute the files of course, not to individuals, but if they cannot get 3d print in house it would make a lot of sense for some of the more specialist stuff to go 3d print on demand

GW already do use 3D printing for Forge World stuff that ends up cast resin. It's probably a better workflow for them, because they just print the master then once they have the master it's faster to recast that 10,000 times than it is to print 10,000 models.

they are not alone, was working on some Warlord Games Judge Dredd models the other day, cast resin, with 3d print layer lines still in place

have the ability to drop symbols on the models, heck could stick XIV legion markings onto shoulder pads, can't be bothered as yet as my painting isn't up to it. not using decals either though

was quite surprised to find a "why not?" test print of a 28mm scale marine breacher squad sized to 25% actually printed perfectly fine, down to grenades on belts etc, and the resulting models were not stupidly fragile either

I've done 3d print master, make mould and cast resin for some terrain bits as a resin pour is circa 20 minutes to cycle over ~ 2-3 hours for 3d print, and the resin is cheaper too, depends what I'm doing though

I can well see 3d print masters at commercial scale being golden though

I don't let my lack of painting skills stop me from 3D printing shoulder pad symbols



But my printer is only 2k and I've found shoulder symbols come out blurry. Simple stuff like a tactical arrow comes out, but I've seen people deboss an eye of horus on an Epic scale shoulder pad and it comes out fine, which I'm pretty sure my printer wouldn't do. It's part of what's making me want to upgrade my printer, but I'm hoping Elegoo release a heated auto levelling printer (I know Anycubic have one... but after my last Anycubic printer I'm ready to try a different manufacturer).

Payday, and another smol spend. Well, I say smol.

£62.50 for the new cards, two sets of Spartans, and some more plastic glue, on account I’ve run out.

 Albertorius wrote:
I bought a Rhino box, so I'd put my tally at 34 euros...

...and holy feth. Is this really the less annoying of the sets to assemble? Because FOR FETH's SAKE, 11 pieces per fething Rhino is nuts. Not to speak of the seams all over the top of the model >_>

This has thorougly sold me off buying more kits -_- (well, of assembling them I guess. Same thing)

The Rhinos are the more complex kits of that size so I'm not sure where you've heard that from. Predators are about the same while the Sicarans are easier. The Leman Russ is probably the easiest kit to assemble, it's like half a dozen pieces. The other SA kits are quite simple too. I didn't find them particularly annoying to assembled aside from 4 smoke stacks per chassis. The design is very clever as there is barely any need for mould line removal.

You have no issues with seams if you squeeze the sides together using thin tamiya cement.

Well, certainly horses for courses I guess. As to where have I heard it... well, here, for one ^^. Also, extrapolating with them being the ones that have more models made per sprue from all the vehicles I guess. That would relate with parts amount, surely?

And yeah, those smoke stacks... FML

Rhino smoke stacks weren’t particularly fun. But, they weren’t quite as irritating as I initially expected.

It's more that they're fething small, and very loseable (with no extras)... for not really much of a gain, to be completely honest.... and well. Four apiece >_>

The last Epic army I did included 50+ rhinos so I am not going near them this time around, my Night Lords are going to be foot-slogging until drop pods arrive and I can find a good Deathclaw miniature

I'm trying to do my NL as already being well on the way to being psycho edge-lords, the official terminator minis look a bit clean-cut for this (not to mention would need to buy several of the currently unobtainable marine infantry sets) so I got hold of the Vanguard Novan Elite heavy armour, £9 and a big chunky unit of these guys (Atramar?) deep-striking. Also got a couple of the Hecate interceptors to use as Xiphon Interceptors (again think these look a bit nastier than the official Xiphon minis, which felt a bit Battlestar Galactica, £13.50 for 2.

If anyone is desperate for the book, I can try to nab an extra copy at my local FLGS. My copy is coming from GW direct, so comfortably in the bag. And as Chaos Cards is a gentle 5 minute waltz from my oubliette, it’s no bother to be there a few minutes before opening to grab a copy for a brother. Or a sister. Or a non-binary sibling.

Hey Doc thank you. One of.my children identifies as non-binary. They spend a lot of time explaining things to me slowly and in small words. Also they love wargaming whether it's any of the Warhammer stable, actually it's all of them including HH and LI and that comment is the first time they felt part of the community.
Hence why we play in a small.delf contained group. Most of the players have been rejected or bullied by clubs. Even I got sniggers at my prosthetic leg. That was until they realised I can remove and belt the little expletive deleted.
On the whole this community is accepting of people but there's always at least one childish idiot. Thanks again.
Onto the subject matter I just picked up a AT set to add toy titans and another 2 boxes of SA infantry so another £165 to add toy continuing spend.

Jaxmeister wrote:
Hey Doc thank you. One of.my children identifies as non-binary. They spend a lot of time explaining things to me slowly and in small words. Also they love wargaming whether it's any of the Warhammer stable, actually it's all of them including HH and LI and that comment is the first time they felt part of the community.
Hence why we play in a small.delf contained group. Most of the players have been rejected or bullied by clubs. Even I got sniggers at my prosthetic leg. That was until they realised I can remove and belt the little expletive deleted.
On the whole this community is accepting of people but there's always at least one childish idiot. Thanks again.
Onto the subject matter I just picked up a AT set to add toy titans and another 2 boxes of SA infantry so another £165 to add toy continuing spend.

as the saying goes "there's always one, but usually more"

those who judge people based on such things can, in a gaming environment at least, be by far the most satisfying to utterly crush

Got some bad news from Element. Whilst I am still getting them, I’m not getting my Legion Support toys tomorrow. Booooooooo! Boo I say. Boooooo!

But, off to my mate’s shop tomorrow to snaffle my Spartans and the cards. And more plastic glue.

I have pre-ordered the Astartes support pack from Wayland (as they also had a nice larger flight stand I can use with the Thunderhawk) so God knows when that will appear!

An observation I've had (kind of related to this thread) is how popular the social media posts of "look at all of the stuff I bought" and usually photos of a pile of boxes, are. Way more popular than people showing even completed army shots and some really beautiful arranged dioramas and stuff.
My theory is there is a sort of gratification/porn thing (bear with me here ) of people who can't currently buy themselves (either because the minis are out of stock, the cost etc) and so there is a satisfaction in others doing it.

Weirdly it reminds me a bit of those strange food-eating channels in Korea, where dieting people watch videos of other people cramming ramen and dumplings into their mouths (look it up! It's a real thing) because they are unable to do it themselves. In this case there are just hundreds of people drooling at their screens and wondering how the hell that person got hold of six boxes of Kratos tanks

would be wondering more why someone bothered with six boxes of Kratos..

if, as is claimed, the game is aimed at being 3k, a force of 4k-5k as a pool makes some sort of sense, but structured to build a 3k force

and with a lot of units not yet released currently aiming at a 2k5 pool and playing 1k5 - 2k makes sense

at which point more than two boxes of anything except infantry seems a waste longer term, unless you plan multiple legions