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This comes off a lot as confusing. When a units dies and the leaders are left standing.

If there are two characters, who decides who excess damage goes on?

Does the new units retain any buffs or memories? I assume no. But if somebody kills them with fight first do they for instance remember that they charged?

Edit: Also like the fight on death stratagem does not carry over either, right?

You resolve all the attacks against the Attached unit before dividing the remaining Character units into individual units. The unit controller decides which Character models Wounds are allocated to ad normal.

Recommend reading rule commentary.

Persisting effect covers that.

For damage it's allocated as normal. Owner vs non-precision, attackei with precision(this is also in commentary).

Mind if we run through an example for this question?

Let's say there's a blob of 20 troops (1W) with 2 leaders attached. In Round 2 there are 4 troops left and the 2 leaders. Leader 1 has a 5++ Invul for the unit, Leader 2 has a 5+++ FnP for the unit.

The opponent lights them up with 10 plasma wounds, the troops are destroyed and there are plasma 4 wounds remaining to be saved against.

At this point the unit controller can split up the wounds as he sees fit. Since all the attacks were allocated at the same time, does that mean the characters still benefit from the 5++ Invul and 5+++ FnP since the attacks were delivered while they were still a single unit? Or do they split into separate units while there are still unsaved wounds?

If it's the latter then I presume the strategy may be to start assigning wounds to characters before the last troop dies that way they all get to benefit from those leading a unit abilities.

A) the buffs still apply
B) defender can NEVER apply wounds to character while bodyguard members are alive. Even if you want to can't. Only attacker with precision can.

Rules Commentary wrote: While This Model is Leading a Unit: These rules only apply while the model with that rule is part of an Attached unit, and otherwise have no effect. While a model with such a rule is part of an Attached unit, it will also benefit from its own rule. If an Attached unit contains more than one model with such a rule, both models are considered to be leading that Attached unit, and so all such rules apply. Such rules cease to apply if that unit ceases to be an Attached unit (such as when the last Bodyguard model in that unit is destroyed) – if this is as the result of an enemy unit’s attacks, all ‘while this model is leading a unit...’ rules cease to apply after the attacking unit’s attacks have been resolved.

How about this:

A uit of space marines with a character charges custodies.

Custodies fights first and kill the bodyguard unit. But not the character.

Does the character count as having charged? Can he pile in to fight?

If the space marine player uses a stratagem on that unit, does it persist on the character stil?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Rules Commentary wrote:Persisting Effects: Some rules apply an effect that lasts until a certain duration has passed (e.g. until the start of your next turn). Such effects are known as persisting effects. If a persisting effect applies to a unit when it embarks within a Transport, make a note of that effect and its duration; if that unit disembarks for any reason, any persisting effects continue to apply to that unit for their full duration. If a persisting effect applies to an Attached unit and that unit ceases to be an Attached unit (because either all of its Bodyguard models or all of its Leader models are destroyed), any persisting effects continue to apply to the surviving unit for their full duration.

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 alextroy wrote:

Rules Commentary wrote: While This Model is Leading a Unit: These rules only apply while the model with that rule is part of an Attached unit, and otherwise have no effect. While a model with such a rule is part of an Attached unit, it will also benefit from its own rule. If an Attached unit contains more than one model with such a rule, both models are considered to be leading that Attached unit, and so all such rules apply. Such rules cease to apply if that unit ceases to be an Attached unit (such as when the last Bodyguard model in that unit is destroyed) – if this is as the result of an enemy unit’s attacks, all ‘while this model is leading a unit...’ rules cease to apply after the attacking unit’s attacks have been resolved.

To clarify then, the key word here would be --unit's-- attacks, so until the unit has finished all of its attacks the leading bonuses still apply right?

This came up recently so I want to make sure I explain the resolution correctly. Thanks.

Given it says "attacking unit's attacks", yes. The Leader effects continue until you are done attacking with that unit.