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Hey, how is everyone? Just finished this book yesterday. Quite a good read! There was a very important couple of bits in there that I don't want to let people be able to accidentally get spoiled on, so I'm going to keep a spoiler block up here to avoid it happening!

Ready? Okay, here we go into spoiler territory! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!

Wow. Tactical genius indeed. And why didn't he tell anyone about them before..?

Keep it secret, keep it safe - Gandalf the Grey

'Keep it secret, hope my previously unmentioned daughter can recover my secrets after the planet has been blown up and nobody else rightly wants to use the information'.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Wow. Tactical genius indeed. And why didn't he tell anyone about them before..?

Apparently, he tried. He was ignored.

Remember that prior to the Battle of Tyrok Fields? He was "just" a general.

That is a very naff storytelling device, mostly to recover from mediocre writing earlier that doesn't set up future hooks. Incredible GW isn't telling writers to always put possible hooks in and having a list of stuff that can be referenced

 Lord Damocles wrote:
'Keep it secret, hope my previously unmentioned daughter can recover my secrets after the planet has been blown up and nobody else rightly wants to use the information'.

As much as I'm bugged by the fact that she's his actual daughter...it's very much explained that she didn't know him either. She didn't even use his name until Guilliman basically forced her to for a propaganda piece.

It is a bit odd, but in fairness Creed snr. only reached the rank of Lord Castellan at the outset of the 13th Black Crusade following the Battle of Tyrok Fields. He was still a young man (by the standards of senior Imperial officers) and his rise through the ranks was meteoric.

It is quite possible he had only had the required security clearances to find this kind of data for a short period of time- being a career soldier and not a cartographer or something this is going to be from obscure records, not original research. The digging through records has also occurred whilst doing his day job to an exemplary degree through exceptionally challenging warzones.

So the idea was probably in its infancy, and it isn't surprising that a plan requiring secrecy (to prevent the agents of Chaos from finding out and sabotaging it) hadn't yet been disseminated to a handful of trusted associates whilst fighting the largest battle the Imperium had fought in millennia.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Wow. Tactical genius indeed. And why didn't he tell anyone about them before..?

Apparently, he tried. He was ignored.

Remember that prior to the Battle of Tyrok Fields? He was "just" a general.

I think he was technically a Lord General, so above General, but not by much.

Outflanking secret weapons, classic CREEEEEEED!

Lots of people saying "it's probably this" or "it's likely that" - that's all conjecture. All we know is what is written, and let's be honest, it's not the best storytelling when they suddenly pull something out of nowhere to possibly assist in the rejuvenation of the Cadians after blowing their planet up.

That being said, two factions in the Inquisition putting operatives into one force by no means suggests a schism. The Inquisition quite regularly operates at odds with itself; Inquisitors from Xenos, Malleus and Hereticus often cross paths (and words/weapons) in the course of their own investigations. Doesn't suggest a schism is brewing, and nothing else in the book did, as far as I read.