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Yip, Arf, BORK!







Intrigued to see if and how this might open up army options of Tau players.

And those previously shown off.











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See when GW previewed the Kroot up date a few weeks ago I thought it was odd that they didn't do the hounds! Very glad to see them getting fresh models!

Seems we can expect another Kroot Character, as it mentions in a teasing phrase “if only a character could keep up with them”

Should just add the whole Hunting Pack and make this the Kroot Thread!

Going to plastic is nice but those are some of the least inspired sculpts we've seen from GW in a long while.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems we can expect another Kroot Character, as it mentions in a teasing phrase “if only a character could keep up with them”

I think this is starting to confirm that the mounted figure we've seen is probably a character rather than a unit type.

I think I need to see the Kill Team hounds next to the old ones, but I do think the old ones had a bit more character. I get the slightly devolved look they are going for, but I think the longer jaws of the old ones captured a bit more of their almost perverse, bad tempered nature.

Not as good as the Kill Team version, but it's nice having them in plastic. Not sure if I'll ever get back around to Tau, but I love having these as an option, the metal/finecast ones were awful

These look…off. I think they’re too muscular - and the sculpting of the musculature is very unnatural. Maybe a trainee did them.

Doggos!

Yeah... that's not right.
The grace of the metal models (and farstrider hounds) is gone, and the head and spine look almost like robot parts

5 model box is a bad sign too.

They could have sold me on a kroot reboot with amazing hounds, but happily this is not that.

Nice that they are in plastic but they are awful sculpts unfortunately. Kroot Hounds normally look a little bit ragged, hungry and dangerous. These look soft, like they were designed for plastic that couldn't take much detail. What a shame.

Only 5 per box?

Interesting. Glad to see more Kroot at least.

They're not bad, but they feel quite bland and they've lost a lot the feel of the originals. The previous models really looked like sleek dangerous alien birddogs (especially with with their long sharp snouts/beaks), and even they had small harnesses to carry stuff.

I preferred the longer snouts.. or is it beaks?

I’ve never paid much attention to Kroot (or Tau in general). The new Kroot boxed set has piqued my interest though, must fight the urge to add to my pile of shame.

I like the look of these new Hounds specifically. Looking at the current models on the GW website they look pretty goofy by comparison. I’m not sure why there’s a fair bit of negativity about them in this thread. Apart from the usual “new things are bad” negativity of course.

El Torro wrote:
I’ve never paid much attention to Kroot (or Tau in general). The new Kroot boxed set has piqued my interest though, must fight the urge to add to my pile of shame.

I like the look of these new Hounds specifically. Looking at the current models on the GW website they look pretty goofy by comparison. I’m not sure why there’s a fair bit of negativity about them in this thread. Apart from the usual “new things are bad” negativity of course.

You are clearly aware that there's quite a significant design change, people are allowed to dislike that and prefer the older style. Don't make out that the only reason anyone would dislike it is because it's a new thing.

I guess you can use all of the old, medium (KT) and new models. Kroots are, what they eat - give those skinny beakies some delicious Orks instead of chicken and the next generation will look like the new ones.

They have potential. I think I will get one box and spice them up. The front limbs are too human like shoulders/biceps.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
They're not bad, but they feel quite bland and they've lost a lot the feel of the originals. The previous models really looked like sleek dangerous alien birddogs (especially with with their long sharp snouts/beaks), and even they had small harnesses to carry stuff.

I mean, that's what the Farstalkers' hounds have...as part of their unit.


It makes sense for them to lose the ol' bits that were effectively part of the idea of the Kroot Hounds being as part of the squad. Especially when those parts are instead still present on the Farstalker Kinbands.

 Snord wrote:
These look…off. I think they’re too muscular - and the sculpting of the musculature is very unnatural. Maybe a trainee did them.

They look like Kroot that have evolved into Kroothounds, therefore some of their anatomy looks like it should be on a biped and not a quadruped. I like that attention to their background.

For me, I think it’s the rear legs are just a bit too long to convince.

Other than that they’ve the stocky build of pit and bull dogs, including the short, grabbing muzzles.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Snord wrote:
These look…off. I think they’re too muscular - and the sculpting of the musculature is very unnatural. Maybe a trainee did them.

They look like Kroot that have evolved into Kroothounds, therefore some of their anatomy looks like it should be on a biped and not a quadruped. I like that attention to their background.

Devolved right

If the Stormcast Gryph-Hounds are an indicator, then yeah, these were actually sculpted by a trainee, but I don't think it shows in any troublesome ways. Nothing wrong with preferring the more savage beaked, gangrel form of the older sculpts, but those have always felt more disjointed and unconvincing to me. The musculature here, right down to the too long hind legs, feels like it's more "accurate" to a bipedal birdman gradually evolving into a dog. The current sculpts had a unique alien vibe, but perhaps more because they look like the bog mummified remains of something that might’ve looked more like an animal.

I suppose the irony of a more cleanly defined body is that it takes away the magic of interpreting the form.

They look just a touch too smooth for me. The older ones had a bit more texture to them. Also the paint job looks like its explicitly designed to show where the model part joint lines run

A scuffier/scruffier/drybrushed paint job would probably do a better job.

Dryaktylus wrote:I guess you can use all of the old, medium (KT) and new models. Kroots are, what they eat - give those skinny beakies some delicious Orks instead of chicken and the next generation will look like the new ones.

This is my take too- Kroot (along with Tyranids) are the faction most amenable to anatomy changes between versions. The critters were shaped differently by their warband but fill the same role.

Although I had got the impression that the Gnarlocs, Hounds and Krootox shared a common ancestor with Kroot rather than being devolved people-Kroot.

Forms that had become too specialised and lost the ability to adapt in Pech's prehistory.

Glad im not the only kroot fan disappointed with most of these sculpts. Somehow the older sculpts had some more... I dunno, soul?

Also the stylistic change in the kroot hounds from the farstalker kindreds is kinda bizarre.

Their muscle struckture makes the kroothounds look more reptilian than bird-like. Maybe the right paint job could play down the bulkiness.

The paint jobs on the carnivores also rub me the wrong way, so hopefully the hounds would also be improved with a different paint job.