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apparently hunter ripped a chunk out of dorns chest when they had an argument. cant remember where it was but if anybody remembers let me know so i can read it again.

Index Astartes Articel Night Lords... "He was sitting like a gargoyl on his chest..."
This is a scene someone should have painted or sculpted.....

I'm going to go with Sanguinius. He took huge amounts of radiation and still beat the crap out of all of these chaos marines at the eternal gate. Also, he had cool wings that he could fly on. Little improv conversation:
"Oh c'mon Leman lets go over the mountain. Oh wait, you can't fly. Oh can't anybody else fly? Just me? Oh."

Also, he took on Horus, but he knew already that he would lose, for he had a limited ability to forsee events. It also reads that Horus could not overcome Sanguinius with martial prowess, and that he had to use psychic abilities.

of course leman Russ could fly. he had a thunderhawk. and a jet pack

why does the combination of Leman Russ and Jetpack remind me of this scene in the 2. Hellboy Comic....

does anybody know what happened to Vulkan after the Herasy? I can't find anything in the Index Astartes article.

he disapreared into the warp like so many others. its just a getout clause so GW did not have to rattle there brains to much to give him an interesting ending

That is the unimaginative escape clause for all the lame Primarchs. They dissapeared into the wide warp, thier in stasis healing from injury's, or on some great vision quest. I still haven't seen a thread shooting down Sanguinius or Fulgrim. Lemon Russ got smacked down bye the Lion and I love using that every time I see a wolf player because they start to wine how it was trickery and that Lemon let his gaurd down. Uuuhh, okay.

In fairness, I don't think getting taken out by a low blow should count in a 'who is the toughest primarch' contest.

Lion el'Jonson beating Leman, Leman beating Magnus the Red, etc.

Russ crushed Magnus' back over his knee....

yeah thats not a low blow. if your refering to russ kicking him in the eye thats cos magnus was doing his warp powers blast thingy from his eye and russ threw a thoussand son marine at his to block the eye then kicked him in his eye to close the warp lighning coming from there and then broke his back on his knee like a "female dog"

Here is my personal rating:

1. Night Haunter
2. Sanguinius
3. Leman Russ

Regardless of what Magnus was doing with his bad-a$$ powers, kicking anyone, especially a cyclops, in the eye is low.

Leman was getting his butt kick all over the place until that point. So I would say, that Magnus is tougher than Leman on the grounds that Leman only beat him by being cheesey.

Reminds me of how OB1 beat Darth Maul. Noone can argue that OB1 could beat Maul in a fair fight. Cheesey as hell.

Thats heresy Thanatos_elNyx the inquesition has been informed.
1. Horus
2. Russ
3> Sanguninius

Well seeing as how nobody has risen to defend the great Ferrus Manus; the only thing I can think of is that he killed the hell out of a machine-dragon made of necrodermis/living metal. I think he died at the drop site massacre though.

Somebody said that Vulcan was equal with the Emperor in combat, I'd say that automatically makes him victor.

Fulgrim has killed the most primarchs, and he would seem to be the quickest one.

But my favorite primarch, The Nighthaunter, would probably rip off his armor, flex his talon-fingers, and go to work on someone's face.

who has fulgrim killed??

Posted By beef 08/05/2006 4:35 PM
who has fulgrim killed??

I just reread it, Fulgrim killed Ferrus, so I guess he IS out.  And he basically killed Guillimon.

Guillaman is not dead. he is in stasis in the chapel of hera on ultramar. so that does not count. as for ferrus, fulgrim intoxicated him with his fairy perfume and then killed him.

I still say sanguinius. He was a match for horus even after he had been so highly elevated by the four chaos powers. He also had forsight, which he used to see the future if he stayed true to the emperor (death). Even after the knowledge of his impeding doom he stayed with the Emperor. Thats gotta count for something.

I think we should leav Horus out of this conversation/quabble because he wasn't just a Primarch, a commander of a chapter of Space marines, he was a Warmaster, the head of the Imperiums armies and second only to the Emperor.

Also, if you think about it, none of the other Chaos primarchs would fight Horus for his position of power in fear of defeat, but Sanguinius didnt think twice about it, even though he knew he'd die doing it.

Having the universe's biggest balls doesnt make you the toughest primarch.

most marines would gladly lay down there lives for the emporors but that does not make them badass. the fact that he knew he was gona beforehand and the fact that he did not change that outcome due to his farsight makes him even more of a sap

Posted By the_trooper 08/09/2006 2:09 PM
Having the universe's biggest balls doesnt make you the toughest primarch.

No it make you the biggest MACK

what's a MACK? Isn't this that apple computer?

and Horus was pushed by the 4 Chaos Gods, so actually...he cheated. well, the lion did too more or less, but he was a dress wearing sissy

and I read a bit from the fluff in the latest horus heresy artbook. Fulgrim was taken over by a powerful slanesh demon, so he didn't do squat.

Mack meens playa or Gallist or punani shaker. Basically a ladies man who is really cool etc

Overall I would say Horus would be supreme

Marital Combat would be a tie between Fulgrim and Angron

Pretty boyness would goto Sanguinius even though he did put a chink in Horus' armor

Drinking buddy and food would goto Leman Russ but he also wins ferocity

Survivability would goto Lion El Johnson

Tactics would goto Guillimen

Iron Will would goto Dorn

Psychics would goto Magnus

Strength would goto ferrus manus

Craftsmanship of a weapon would goto Vulkan

Fear Factor definately Night Haunter

Toughness would goto Motarion

this is just primarchs alone. If you guys allowed the Emperor, he would smack down all of them.

Remember that the Demon Versions

yes, now I remember. every one of the Primarchs (except Horus) only had one of their father's skills. so, when it comes down to, who's the toughest, I would say Mortarion

Martial prowess would also go to Sanguinius. Again he was beating down multiple bloodthirsters and took it to Horus after he was possessed by all 4 chaos powers. He also mastered aerial combat. Having flight adds a whole new dimension to combat. Just take your opponent up and drop them from say 600ft.

I"m assuming that one of the primarchs from the chapters that was deleted from imperial history was Samuel L. Jackson.  He would be the most powerful primarch.

I've never heard anyone claim before that you can sucker-kick someone in the eye or sucker-break someone's back over your knee.  Seems to me that you've already won the upperhand if you can do either of those things.  Inmates on deathrow don't say they won the fight except they were sucker-electrocuted in a wooden chair, do they?

- Oaka

the other was chuck Norris so tecknically he was actually tougher

Chuck Norris could power the Emperor's Golden Throne with roundhouse kicks.

- Oaka