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Speaking of rule changes. I was at the local GW yesterday and the guys running the demo game were adamant that being knocked down moving through tackle zones, going for it, or both knocked down results didn't result in an immediate turnover.

That is pretty different from my impression of how the game goes from playing bb2.

Rule change? Or were they just new to the game?

Given that figuring the odds of a turnover on failing basic stuff like that is the core strategy of the game, one suspects newness. I can't be certain though.

I'm calling newness on that I hope

Warhammer TV has an overview that talks about a lot of ways to end your turn (turn-over). Does this help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02fZAQAc85g

Newness but the first quarter of bloodbowl 2 doesn't do turn overs for that either so mabe to speed things up they played that first lol

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Speaking of rule changes. I was at the local GW yesterday and the guys running the demo game were adamant that being knocked down moving through tackle zones, going for it, or both knocked down results didn't result in an immediate turnover.

That is pretty different from my impression of how the game goes from playing bb2.

Rule change? Or were they just new to the game?

Its just like the demo vid where both players had 12, yes 12 figures on the pitch.

Johnny-come-latelys what don't know gak about Blood Bowl.

 Dysartes wrote:

One turn touchdown.

Against Skaven.

With Dwarves...

I thought a Mummy dying from 3-dice blocking a halfling with re-roll was pushing it, but how that happened? I figure you got 1 square move on kick-off table. But runners are MA 6, maybe you got MA 7, with additional square from kickoff, you get 10 squares with 2x GFIs. Maybe you managed to surf him up 1 square. 2? Surfed him 3? Or Sprint?

He's sayin he One turn touchdown with Dwarves.

Not using rats.

bound for glory wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Speaking of rule changes. I was at the local GW yesterday and the guys running the demo game were adamant that being knocked down moving through tackle zones, going for it, or both knocked down results didn't result in an immediate turnover.

That is pretty different from my impression of how the game goes from playing bb2.

Rule change? Or were they just new to the game?

Its just like the demo vid where both players had 12, yes 12 figures on the pitch.

Johnny-come-latelys what don't know gak about Blood Bowl.

I get that you're a bit of a grognard (I recognize you from you prolific postings on TFF ). I'm hoping this new addition will bring new blood to the game. The current mix of coaches in my area is getting stale.

Baxx wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

One turn touchdown.

Against Skaven.

With Dwarves...

I thought a Mummy dying from 3-dice blocking a halfling with re-roll was pushing it, but how that happened? I figure you got 1 square move on kick-off table. But runners are MA 6, maybe you got MA 7, with additional square from kickoff, you get 10 squares with 2x GFIs. Maybe you managed to surf him up 1 square. 2? Surfed him 3? Or Sprint?

Blitz! result on the Kick Off table, most likely.

Any chance I will get this team eventually?

A Genestealer with The Stealers logo:

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Any chance I will get this team eventually?

A Genestealer with The Stealers logo:

Spoiler:

I'm a bit of a bb/ff collector(I own over 2,000 blood bowl/fantasy football figures) would you be innterested in making and painting me one of these?

Really.

Petty sure I'm allowed to do this. Turn-overs.
Source; rule book in my hand

Hopefully this means using all your pieces more as well as a greater emphasis on scoring.

Still quite tactical as we teach folks to consider risks and priorities in setting up your turn.

Looks like rules as normal. No yuuuge changes yet.

I'm pretty sure that is how it has always worked.

yeah, just clearer rules.

Yeah, no more pages of "this is how you block, p.s. turnover if you screw up" type rules with no connecting summary. Clarity is good.
I did notice that the contents page is less than comprehensive and the index is non-existent though. Sigh.

The interview I mentioned that they considered a major rewrite that Jervis Johnson had started, but they didn't feel that the game needed it. They moved Illegal Procedure to an optional rule. They also moved Piling On (and the whole Claw-Bomb tactic) to an optional league rule, as it felt that it broke several basic rules of the game.

 feeder wrote:

Baxx wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

One turn touchdown.

Against Skaven.

With Dwarves...

I thought a Mummy dying from 3-dice blocking a halfling with re-roll was pushing it, but how that happened? I figure you got 1 square move on kick-off table. But runners are MA 6, maybe you got MA 7, with additional square from kickoff, you get 10 squares with 2x GFIs. Maybe you managed to surf him up 1 square. 2? Surfed him 3? Or Sprint?

Blitz! result on the Kick Off table, most likely.

Pretty much - I was either 1-0 or 2-0 up anyway, and had caused a few casualties, so there was a safe spot on the line of scrimmage for my Runner. Popped a Blitz! on the kick off table, and ran him on the diagonal towards where the ball was due to drop (with the rest of my guys doing some damage and tying up the front line). Ball dropped a square or two in from the corner, and the rats failed to pick it up cleanly. Safe Hands, a Dodge and a couple of GFIs saw the little guy home...

...and the crowd went wild.

*edit* - quote mishap.

 rayphoton wrote:
lol, we should start a whole thread for "IMPOSSIBLE BLOODBOWL STORIES"

My favourite was when Dark Elves and Elves spent four or five turns with the ball a square from the End Zone, and the Dark Elf Blitzer and Elf Thrower simply couldn't pick the sodding thing up!

Used to love BB but when most games ended up with the opponent just caging the game got unfun fast, oh and dwarfs as well, very much unfun to play against....

Easy soulution to cages...Just try to inflict as much damage to the cage team as possible.

You may lose the game, but if you are playing in a league, it will do what you need done.

Worked for me over the years.

Works against someone who is playing "stall ball", too. Guy wants to stall, fine. But every turn he does so, attack his players.

You'll hurt some, I can tell you that.

The range ruler looked a hell of a lot bigger than the old one in the box I saw last night. About 1/3 bigger and reaches from the halfway line to the end of the board.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
The range ruler looked a hell of a lot bigger than the old one in the box I saw last night. About 1/3 bigger and reaches from the halfway line to the end of the board.

from middle line to end zone is 13 squares (including endzone) long bomb is 13 squares in the old game so sounds like it has just been upsized for the bigger squares.

Also remember it isnt just a thin strip of acetete like the old one, it is a big chunky artwork thing

 MangoMadness wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
The range ruler looked a hell of a lot bigger than the old one in the box I saw last night. About 1/3 bigger and reaches from the halfway line to the end of the board.

from middle line to end zone is 13 squares (including endzone) long bomb is 13 squares in the old game so sounds like it has just been upsized for the bigger squares.

Also remember it isnt just a thin strip of acetete like the old one, it is a big chunky artwork thing

I preferred the old acetate and card to the ones I saw yesterday. Bit too busy and not as functional. But that's current GW design and nothing new.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

I preferred the old acetate and card to the ones I saw yesterday. Bit too busy and not as functional. But that's current GW design and nothing new.

Agreed, function over form is what I like in all games.

Really though do anyone use the throwing templates anymore? Most people use the throwing matrix table, alot easier and smaller to carry around.

 bound for glory wrote:
Easy soulution to cages...Just try to inflict as much damage to the cage team as possible.

You may lose the game, but if you are playing in a league, it will do what you need done.

Worked for me over the years.

Works against someone who is playing "stall ball", too. Guy wants to stall, fine. But every turn he does so, attack his players.

You'll hurt some, I can tell you that.

I had my dwarf team butchered by a wood elf team once, but that belongs to the "IMPOSSIBLE BLOODBOWL STORIES", not a general game tip to counter cages.

And the agility teams does that how exactly? If you try staying in front of the cage, you're the one losing players as the cage moves forward.

Try playing Wood Elf while putting the hurt to a Dwarf team caging and stalling. It does not work.


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 Dysartes wrote:

Pretty much - I was either 1-0 or 2-0 up anyway, and had caused a few casualties, so there was a safe spot on the line of scrimmage for my Runner. Popped a Blitz! on the kick off table, and ran him on the diagonal towards where the ball was due to drop (with the rest of my guys doing some damage and tying up the front line). Ball dropped a square or two in from the corner, and the rats failed to pick it up cleanly. Safe Hands, a Dodge and a couple of GFIs saw the little guy home...

...and the crowd went wild.

*edit* - quote mishap.

That is some accomplishment. Had it confused with zero-turn touchdown, which would be nigh impossible.

My story is pretty standard but was the first time that it happened in my community.
I was down 2-1 against a wood elf team and received the ball on the last turn. RIOT!!! Caused me to get an extra turn, which is fortunate because I don't have a one-turn score path with this team. Decided if Fate was going to smile on me, I might as well take what it gives. The ball scattered right on top of my Runner with dodge and +1 Move (how lucky is that!) With some good blocks, I was able to build a cage just on his half of the field.
He engaged my cage, but seemed to forget about my Frenzy pieces so I was able to clear things out enough to get the score. Game Tied at 2.
I kick off to him, and he immediately scores to win the game. Wood Elves...

Definitely looking at getting this once Chaos teams are released (the D'halas Goatboys). On the topic of "impossible BB stories", based on my luck in BB2, I can safely say that a 3+ to pick up the ball with a re-roll is pretty much a guaranteed failure for me.