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The more i look at them, the more i like them, its only really the slayers balancing on their beards that I am not liking.

I have Dwarf teams by Impact!, 2nd ed GW, 3rd GW, Black Scorpion, girl dwarfs by Shadow Forge, Iron Golum and SP miniatures.

I will buy the new GW dwarf team, but I think they are sucky. I am a BB/FF collector/painter.

These are not that good at capturing what dwarfs are about:standing their ground, the grind, and unmovable defense.

Seems to me, the design team just got something weird in their heads and it translated into these figures.

I like them, but I won't be getting them. Already have 3 teams to work on!

The Warhammer Community article confirms that the Dwarf Star Player (Grim Ironjaw) is due shortly from FW, after the plastic team is released.

I'd rather have the Skaven Star Player and Rat Ogre out first though.

I think the Blitzers and Slayers probably went a bit more towards jumping on/punching people, the Linemen and even Runners look pretty solid and unmovable to me.

I think I'll be getting these as my first team. I hear they're not great for a beginner, but I like the idea of just making a wall of Dorfs and headbutting people to the ground

Plus I think they're a bit better looking than just Humans, though I might get Humans as well.

 Mister Feral wrote:
I like them, but I won't be getting them. Already javeb3 teams to work on!

The Warhammer Community article confirms that the Dwarf Star Player (Grim Ironjaw) is due shortly from FW, after the plastic team is released.

I'd rather have the Skaven Star Player and Rat Ogre out first though.

Yeah the fat skaven star player sounds really cool and amusing, the rat ogre IMO isn't the biggest deal because the rat ogres from island of blood are very capable of being used for a few months until they make a rat ogre that fits the game better. I'm more concerned about the plastic troll coming out as far away as april, I think that is a bit much if you ask me. I guess I have plenty of time to paint all my teams before I get any big guys.

Dwarves were the first BB team I painted and played when I started around 20 years ago. I'm okay with the new models, except I would prefer more than one pose for the Runners. I consider the Slayers to be "frenzying", though they do seem a bit too agile for dwarves; I shudder to think how GW will pose the Wood Elf Wardancers, maybe on a flight stand, lol.

Can someone explain the dozer to me. Is that an actual playing model or a display piece to put on the side?

Chopxsticks wrote:
Can someone explain the dozer to me. Is that an actual playing model or a display piece to put on the side?

Its an actual playing model.

http://bbtactics.com/dwarf-deathroller/

On Lady Atia's page, there is an FAQ out for Blood Bowl. I don't play but thought you guys and girls might be interested in it. https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1584

Here is the link for the Errata/FAQ. Thanks to Lady Atia.

https://19070-presscdn-0-68-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BB-FAQ-webready.pdf

Some of these new GW figure ar'nt really fit for the BB game.

Given they're all designed for it, by people who are fans and will have designed them to be suitable, I'm guessing you just mean "I don't like them". Which is fine, but say what you mean.

What I mean, is "action movie" poses ar'nt needed with BB/FF games. I don't know how much you know about the game, but "Awkward" poses are a pain in the ass when the figure has to be face down, face up.

I've been playing the game since the first paper stand ups. You may like the these dynamicly goofy figures, but for people playing the game, they are, well, goofy.

They look cool, tho...

Exactly, they look cool.

You don't NEED anything more than paper cut outs with the appropriate image or word on them, but if they are cool and interesting to paint then people will be more attracted to them.

I've played with stupidly large and awkward models before on the 29mm squares and never had to cancel a game because of it.
I know I personally would rather have a model designed to look "cool" than a model designed to fit well if I want to flip them from Stunned to Prone.

Yeah, looking cool is the whole point of having models over paper cutouts.

If you're concerned they're going to be hard to place on the board, either use substitutes or colour coded markers for downed/stunned results, like my group does.

I really wish they put in optional rules for using tokens for knocked down & stunned, instead of laying the models down. With all these details and brittle parts, highlights are gonna chip off and tails will be broken.

Where there is a need, there will be someone to fill it...well at least with the Big Guys.
Despite my previous smack talk big guys are a bit of a pain when they take up multiple spaces since they are a good 60-70mm high.

This is something I did for the Australian BB scene a couple of years ago,

Those are really cool, Vain - what did you make then out of?

@Mister Feral - I suspect sculpting a variant Trollslayer for Grim is a bit simpler than a Rat Ogre or "fat rat". I guess there is also an outside chance of the Rat Ogre being plastic, if other big guys are going that route.

I think the logic was that the Troll and Ogre could be taken lots of teams, so plastic made sense.

I will definitely use knock down tokens rather than actually laying my models down.

 Dysartes wrote:
Those are really cool, Vain - what did you make then out of?

Thanks Dysartes, got them stamped out of copper (i think?) Got runs for 75 done of each. First one was for a charity event but the second one was just because people asked for different races.

How long before we see a third-party company designing some easily usable markers to fit into the hole in the new bases?

Even something as simple as a "KD" and "Stun" would do the trick - possibly with a '66 Batman *POW*-esque bubble around them...

The Dwarfs are great.

The human and Orc teams were great too, but I was a little disappointed with the Skaven; I was hoping for the more generic studded/helmeted appearance of 2nd ed. Still good figures, though.

But I'm really loving the dwarves. Not keen on the floating slayers, but other than that, the miniatures themselves look fantastic. I don't really see why anyone is bothered by the dynamism? They might be stoic hard-asses, but that doesn't mean they don't move about. I'm sure beating the living daylights out of the opposing team and occasionally trying to score some touchdowns requires some physicality. The criticisms seem a bit daft. Again, floating slayers are a bit "eehhhhhh" but the rest look excellent.

 Dysartes wrote:
How long before we see a third-party company designing some easily usable markers to fit into the hole in the new bases?

Even something as simple as a "KD" and "Stun" would do the trick - possibly with a '66 Batman *POW*-esque bubble around them...

Clever - very clever

 Dysartes wrote:
How long before we see a third-party company designing some easily usable markers to fit into the hole in the new bases?

Even something as simple as a "KD" and "Stun" would do the trick - possibly with a '66 Batman *POW*-esque bubble around them...

That is one helluva idea!

Baxx wrote:I really wish they put in optional rules for using tokens for knocked down & stunned, instead of laying the models down. With all these details and brittle parts, highlights are gonna chip off and tails will be broken.

No rules are required. If you possess easily identified tokens, you are free to use them.

ekwatts wrote:The Dwarfs are great.

The human and Orc teams were great too, but I was a little disappointed with the Skaven; I was hoping for the more generic studded/helmeted appearance of 2nd ed. Still good figures, though.

But I'm really loving the dwarves. Not keen on the floating slayers, but other than that, the miniatures themselves look fantastic. I don't really see why anyone is bothered by the dynamism? They might be stoic hard-asses, but that doesn't mean they don't move about. I'm sure beating the living daylights out of the opposing team and occasionally trying to score some touchdowns requires some physicality. The criticisms seem a bit daft. Again, floating slayers are a bit "eehhhhhh" but the rest look excellent.

Not just the silly dynamisim. The yards of beard flowing in the breeze is daft, too.

But I'm glad you like them. I want this reboot to be a smashing success for GW, so they will continue to give love to the specialist games.

Mr Morden wrote:Clever - very clever

Baxx wrote:That is one helluva idea!

Shame I've got no way of implementing it, really.

I mean, I could probably do something for myself, but not at a commercial scale.

 feeder wrote:

Baxx wrote:I really wish they put in optional rules for using tokens for knocked down & stunned, instead of laying the models down. With all these details and brittle parts, highlights are gonna chip off and tails will be broken.

No rules are required. If you possess easily identified tokens, you are free to use them.

But not at tournaments. I want it as a guarantee, not something I have to hope and beg the opponent will allow. The hobby aspect of this game is greatly different between players. For some it does not matter if the models are conversions from the latest models with highlights and top painting or 80's style monopose plastic models painted by a blind kid.

I can't imagine a situation where clearly identified tokens would not be allowed to represent prone or stunned models., especially Big Guys.

I agree a line like "Tokens may be used to represent downed figures", but this is GW we're talking about here.

I'd just use the tokens from WHQ silver tower, one skull for downed players. 2-3 skulls for stunned players etc, might as well use them since I have them and they don't look half bad at all.

Right now I don't have any issues placing the models face down/face up. But once they are painted that becomes a whole different issue.

You can use colored plastic base covers like Cmon for the heros in Massive Darkness or other games. If produced they can even say stunned and such. These would prevent the "Balloons" from falling out of holes.