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2023/09/27 18:32:18
Subject: WD #492 Training Article - Moving Through Engagement Range?
White Dwarf #492 has a 40k "Basic Training" article written by Stephen Box from Vanguard Tactics (a guy who charges several hundred dollars for 40k coaching) talking about movement. One "training module" in particular talks about how a unit can cover more ground when stretched to a full 2" coherency across (the example shows a unit of 5 Chaos Terminators), but then cautions that enemy models can move through those gaps between the models if on a smaller base. The accompanying image shows Incubi and some other Drukhari unit moving through the 2" coherency of the Terminators.
It seems to me that this is completely incorrect, as the Core Rules say you cannot move within Engagement Range (remember this is talking about normal moving and advancing, not Falling Back, and not models that can Fly). However when I've asked this elsewhere I'm being told it's somehow correct, and I can't figure out why.
Here's the relevant text from White Dwarf
Spoiler:
TO BLOCK AN ENEMY'S MOVEMENTS 2
A five-model unit of Terminators, for example, can stretch across nearly 16" of battiefield. Remember, though, that models with smaller bases (anything on a 40mm or smaller) can move through those 2" gaps as long as they do not end the move within Engagement Range. Make sure you close your ranks a bit if you want to keep fast-moving infantry controlled.
The Core Rules seem pretty clear (emphasis mine)
Spoiler:
ENGAGEMENT RANGE
Models cannot be set up or end a Normal, Advance or Fall Back move within Engagement Range of any enemy models
NORMAL MOVES
When a unit makes a Normal move, each model in that unit can move a distance in inches less than or equal to its Move (M) characteristic, but no model can be moved within Engagement Range of any enemy models.
ADVANCE MOVES
Each model in that unit can then make an Advance move by moving a distance in inches less than or equal to this total, but no model can be moved within Engagement Range of enemy models.
So is this correct, or is the WD article just flat-out wrong when speaking about Normal/Advance moves?
- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame
2023/09/27 19:01:59
Subject: WD #492 Training Article - Moving Through Engagement Range?
The WD article is wrong.
Engagement range is a 1" bubble around each individual model. At 2" apart there is a point in between each model were their engagement ranges touch leaving no gaps between the models for anything to get through.
It is also not just that models can not end their movement within engagement range they can not enter it at any point unless they have a special rule that gives them an exception.
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2023/09/27 19:04:01
Subject: WD #492 Training Article - Moving Through Engagement Range?
Best guess: they interpret within engagement in related to engagement range rule(1st you quote) as can't end. Note 1st rule doesn't prevent going through if you don't end in engagement range.
I'll wait others
But yea. Just because somebody charges silly costs for what you can figure out yourself for free doesn't mean he's right
Oh and glossary entry moving over models provide more proof they are wrong.
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2023/09/27 19:15:26
Subject: WD #492 Training Article - Moving Through Engagement Range?
Given the context of the images, I'd assume the author is talking about the Eldar charging past the Terminator screen into the squishier Jackals behind them. While you're not allowed to move through that screen when making a normal movement or advance, they are allowed to do so when charging.
The text contradicts this, of course, so I wonder if there was a mistake in editing.
2023/09/27 19:29:40
Subject: WD #492 Training Article - Moving Through Engagement Range?
Laughing Man wrote: Given the context of the images, I'd assume the author is talking about the Eldar charging past the Terminator screen into the squishier Jackals behind them. While you're not allowed to move through that screen when making a normal movement or advance, they are allowed to do so when charging.
The text contradicts this, of course, so I wonder if there was a mistake in editing.
Are those jackhals? I thought both were dark eldar units (not familiar with dark eldar units) so if so that would make sense, since it looks like incubi are moving into base to base contact.
