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				<description><![CDATA[ Heya folks, <br /> <br /> Taking one from the pages of Warseer, I've decided to start my own little "kitchen sink" thread to have a spot for all of my random projects and models.  <br /> <br /> My goals for this thread are simple:<br /> <br /> 1. Get to all of those models I have laying around the house that I had so much ambition to work on, but never actually got around to doing anything with!<br /> <br /> 2. Learn new techniques, painting styles, and modeling tricks of the trade while I'm doing each project.  <br /> <br /> A bunch of years back I found that doing One Off models was a hell of a way to try your hand and really LEARN while you painted.  I could have continued to paint every model the same way I did way back when, but it wasn't until I really sat down saying "What if I did this?" while I painted that I really started to see serious improvement with each model.  <br /> <br /> You will see goals with each model I get around to starting in this thread as I start a new piece.  These will be rough ideas about the direction the paint and modeling will go before/when I start a model.  <br /> <br /> Now this is where you the readers will come in.  I love compliments just as much as the next guy, but this thread is really all about making myself better as a painter.  I really want to see the critiques and ideas from the painters around here start to flow more freely.  We're all in it to get better right?  So please help me get better.  If you see something that doesn't quite feel right, let me know!  If my palette is off, let me know!  If the technique isn't being applied correctly or in a manner that works, let me know!  Also to anyone who might have questions about anything I'm doing with a model, please feel free to ask questions here.  I'll be more than happy to let you know how I did something, and how you might get similar results.  Some of the folks out there already know I'm more than happy to help a fellow modeler out with advice, I hope that this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(148);'>WIP</span> thread will help even more.  <br /> <br /> end mission statement]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And so it begins...<br /> <br /> I was driving around town today and started to think about a set of Tau I did for commission a couple years back. They were a pretty good group of models and I actually enjoyed doing them. This all came back because the owner of said models is returning home from his first tour in Iraq this month. I'm really looking forward to seein him and the rest of the guys home finally.<br /> <br /> The inspiration:<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/DSCN0020.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> But it got me thinking of doing a one off Tau model though. And when I got home I hit the boxes in search of the few Tau models I have around the house, as well as to the internets in search of ideas.<br /> <br /> My plan is to base differently, making the model more dynamic without serious conversion. To use white primer again (my first real white primer mini being my [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205750.page]God Bless the Infantry entry[/url]), but this time since white will be the armor color, I'm using the spikyjames approach to the whites which I believe will give me the effect I want. I am thinking, note: just thinking!, about doing battle damage/scrapes and cuts painted on the model as well a la migs style, but I haven't made my mind up yet. I'm planning on doing multiple glazing for all other parts past armor plating for my other colors. <br /> <br /> Here is the model so far:<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0561-2.jpg[/IMG]<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really like the idea for this blog. I hope it will turn into a good reference for those of us who are a few years behind in our skills.<br /> <br /> To that end, you mention pallette a lot. Since I just paint things the colors I would like them to be, would you be so kind as to give an elucidation of just what that is and how it works, as well as how to bend it to the will of the Emperor?<br /> <br /> Off to a good start!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Wehrkind]I really like the idea for this blog. I hope it will turn into a good reference for those of us who are a few years behind in our skills.<br /> <br /> To that end, you mention pallette a lot. Since I just paint things the colors I would like them to be, would you be so kind as to give an elucidation of just what that is and how it works, as well as how to bend it to the will of the Emperor?<br /> <br /> Off to a good start![/quote]<br /> <br /> I use the term palette in a broad manner.  It is originally the thing you put your paints on while you are working on a painting/model.  It can also mean the colors you have available to you and what colors you plan to use on a piece.  You'll often see me reference a 'limited palette', this is simply me choosing to use only the smallest amount of colors possible to get the effect I want.  When using a limited palette on a piece I normally try and use colors that are already worked into a model for details.  For example, my veteran:<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0340.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> Originally, I was going to use a blue frosted effect on his sword.  But when it wasn't working out well, I realized it was because the added color wasn't going to fit in well with what colors were already on the model.  When I moved to a red/black fade, the model came together and gave me a much more solid piece.  Had I went with blue, it would have felt like a different model entirely, making it seem disjointed in the execution.  <br /> <br /> When I approach a new color scheme, I really take this all into effect.  I hope that answered your question ^_^.  Sorry if it's long winded x.x]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Come on Grey_Death, more of the tau. I love the white scheme and want to see how you pull it off.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Waaagh_Gonads]Come on Grey_Death, more of the tau. I love the white scheme and want to see how you pull it off.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Hehe, Well the white scheme above is mine too ^_^.  It was just a commission I did for a friend.  <br /> <br /> I'm in the middle of working on the cloth for this guy now ^_-.  More by the end of the night.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:02:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks muchly. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Are you using the foundation paints?<br /> I've been giving them a try and they make life so much easier. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, this piece is going nowhere quick &gt;.&gt;  I really have lost direction on where I'm going with this one so far x.x...<br /> <br /> I spent most of the night toying with light sourcing.  I'd never tried it before and I thought I would see if I could pick out the lights and darks for this model.  I did an alright job I think at actually picking out the light sides vs. the dark sides of the model.  Unfortunately I really don't want that to be the final direction of the model.  <br /> <br /> The big problem with that is that the white is now pretty much ruined unless I go back and reprime the piece.  Which I'm not really in the mood to do.  So I'm thinking the models new base color will be shadow grey ^_^...Highlighted extensively of course.  <br /> <br /> Here are the pictures from tonights fiasco:<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0597-1.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0598-2.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0599-2.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> As you can see, I didn't get around to midtones at all yet.  But like I said that really wasn't my goal going into this one, just something I thought I would try out some.  I really need to start with smaller objects for light sourcing before I make the jump to complete models.  <br /> <br /> It's messy, and it doesn't look great, but it was definitely a good experiment for me.  Now to get back to basics ^_^.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Waaagh_Gonads]Thanks muchly. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Are you using the foundation paints?<br /> I've been giving them a try and they make life so much easier. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">[/quote]<br /> <br /> Oh and I haven't given foundation paints a go yet.  I definitely would like to see how they work for me on something in the future.  I'd probably base a scheme around the colors available for something like that.  Maybe even a dipping project &gt;.&gt;...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ some stuff I'm workin on<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some progress on the stormtrooper.  His armor is highlighted and finished.  Next up is pouches and other cloth.  Then final details like grenades and magazines.  <br /> <br /> This color scheme is rather easy to replicate and I came up with it a good 6 years ago.  Only differences now are the small things (lenses are nicer, highlights sharper).  These guys will be a nice tabletop quality fun skirmish team.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good looking Storm Troopers. They would fit right in with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> scouts(except your's are much better painted). Where did you get the old models?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:26:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's eerie. No shit, last night I decided I just wanted to paint -something-, so I picked up the Kasrkin Sgt. I had been using for scale in my Redemptor project and started slapping some color on him. Black armor plates and grey clothes. <br /> <br /> Just make certain you take off your shoes when you get in my head. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Thanks for the pallette explanation too.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:48:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Kinda creepy that my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(79);'>LatD</span> color scheme is reverse that, Wehrkind(Black cloth, grey armour).]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Heh.  My Stormies are full camo.  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=snorkle]Good looking Storm Troopers. They would fit right in with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> scouts(except your's are much better painted). Where did you get the old models?[/quote]<br /> <br /> I've had them since they were first released.  The models you see around the new guy were painted around that same time frame (except one that was painted last year).  I've always loved these guys, and it's about time I finished them I think.  The paint scheme is easy enough ^_-...<br /> <br /> [quote=Wehrkind]That's eerie. No shit, last night I decided I just wanted to paint -something-, so I picked up the Kasrkin Sgt. I had been using for scale in my Redemptor project and started slapping some color on him. Black armor plates and grey clothes. <br /> <br /> Just make certain you take off your shoes when you get in my head. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Thanks for the pallette explanation too.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Haha, Kasrkin came out soon after I purchased these guys ^_^.  I've always meant to pick up a squad of them myself, but never got around to it.  Another project someday ^_-.  Oh and no prob on the explanation ^_^, it's what I'm here for!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just picked up the Sgt one day on a whim. He was on sale, and I needed a henchman for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>Inq</span>. He has sat in pretty much the same state as the pics for some 13 months. Lucky for him, he happened to be the closest model while I was eating dinner and watching tv :-P]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do any of you guys know where I could purchase the old stormtroopers? other than ebay?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bartertown is your friend.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more done on the troopah.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Me likes. I really like your simple paint scheme for the stormtroopers. It gives the models a really nice look, but without seeming crowded.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more work done over the weekend on the stormtrooper.  Finished him during the first half of the Super Bowl.  I've already started in on the next one.  I've got 6 (maybe 7, I can't remember...) more to do to include touching up the older models a bit.  The nice part is that they're so simple it's hardly much work.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And something completely out of left field:  Historical Minis!<br /> <br /> I was recently at the good ol' Hobby Lobby picking up some super glue (my dogs punctured my other bottle x.x ), and noticed they had some 1/48 scale US Infantry for 5 bucks.  I was intrigued and decided to snag them on a whim.  <br /> <br /> Some thoughts after putting one of these little bugga's together:<br /> <br /> 1/48 weapons should come already attached to the models...That was a PAIN to get glued on.  I'm really not looking forward to doing the same for the rest...but I will.  Eventually...<br /> It's definitely too small to proxy much of anything in most wargames.  The scale is off because of the heroic scale most companies produce.  <br /> They don't come with bases, which makes sense since they're not meant to be used for wargaming, so I'll have to end up either using generic rounds or making a mini-diorama for them.  Not sure what direction I'll end up going with it.  <br /> Expect glue on your hands.<br /> The detail is great, I'm hoping to get to painting the one I've got glued together in the near future to help show it off some.  <br /> <br /> Anyways, On with the pics.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What are the mould lines like on the tamiya infantry kit? The height and thickness of the infantry model makes me think of tau air caste <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:00:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks good to me. I'm using a Tamiya 1/35 Tiger 1 tank and a lot of converting for my Ork Battlewagon project <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>. Remembered how good tamiya were at making kits.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:16:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=legoburner]What are the mould lines like on the tamiya infantry kit? The height and thickness of the infantry model makes me think of tau air caste <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">[/quote]<br /> <br /> They're very easily handled.  Most I had to do was a few quick passes with the edge of my hobby knife.  I meant to include the mold lines in my thoughts on the kit...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:38:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They're really skinny. It just shows you how much offscale <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is. But I must say I prefer heroic for the more robust look. And the military guys look like they would snap quite easily. You could possibly use the machine gun as a wierd bolter weapon. If you don't use it for the other models.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:24:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It would be a cool project to make an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army of "true scale" historic minis. By true scale, I mean a scale that would make <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> minis actually be some 8-9 feet tall by comparison. Then mix in some Grey Knights or the like for that "And here are the elite... they can crush your skull like an egg" feel.<br /> <br /> It does surprise me a bit that Tamiya makes such nice kits for so much less money than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. While I think the Tamita plastic might be a little less durable than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s stuff, the detail and sheer number of parts, not to mention <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>raw</span> size, makes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s kits seem really expensive for what you get.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:13:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The heroic proportions are to keep plastic from snapping and metal from bending.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:25:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=JohnHwangDD]The heroic proportions are to keep plastic from snapping and metal from bending.[/quote]<br /> <br /> That is definitely part of the reason for sure.  When I showed the sprue's to my wife, she immediately commented on how you could nearly see through some of the weapons, as they are so thin.  <br /> <br /> Making models that are durable enough to be handled by the greasy sausage fingers they're bound to come across on the wargaming table is a necessity when it comes to usable/playable wargaming minis.  <br /> <br /> Models like the above, that are in a more realistic scale are definitely not durable enough to hold up for very long.  And special transport considerations should be made as well.  <br /> <br /> I do enjoy the scaled feel of these but I wouldn't consider them tabletop ready by any means. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:31:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am thinking of the tanks mostly. I got a Merkava kit from Tamiya for a Shadowsword conversion, and I am almost loathe to cut it up, it is so pretty. <br /> <br /> Perhaps another good solution is to carry a thin metal rod to snap any sausage fingers that get near your models uninvited! Perhaps a few raps for coming to game uncleaned would also be in order.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:09:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Wehrkind]I am thinking of the tanks mostly. I got a Merkava kit from Tamiya for a Shadowsword conversion, and I am almost loathe to cut it up, it is so pretty. <br /> <br /> Perhaps another good solution is to carry a thin metal rod to snap any sausage fingers that get near your models uninvited! Perhaps a few raps for coming to game uncleaned would also be in order.[/quote]<br /> <br /> I've seen some really great armies with the tanks built straight from historical scale kits.  I've also seen some really nice kit bashes with major pieces taken from both and put together with great results (tracks from a scale kit put together with chimera hull for example).  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:12:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you like the 1/48 infantry check out the newer "Type 2" 1/35 infantry sets.  $12-$20 gets you 5 or so figures.<br /> Often times the stock and bolt are separate pieces, and the barrels are rifled.  They're absolutely beautiful kits.<br /> <br /> I can't wait to see the US Infantry men painted up with your smooth blending style.  I'm sure with some converting they'd make a great commissar or other commander figure.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:16:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Forgeworld Death Korp are slimmer then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>. The Tamiya  1/48 would probably not  look that out of place next to them. They are of course WAY more expensive than the Tamiya minis. Nice find.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:59:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, I went to the hobby store today (Hobby Lobby for those who've see one).  I just went in order to get some inspiration really, to look at all the neat little things they have floating around that store that you wouldn't normally think of when you think wargaming.  Luckily I had my trusty camera phone with me to help capture some of the great products I found on the shelves.  I didn't pick up anything major really just a small tube of Testors Contour Putty to give it a go.  Anyways on with some pictures:<br /> <br /> <br /> This could be a really neat project for those of you who want something different for your home tables.  I think it would be hella cool to see something like these on a table to give it that realistic feel for those alien worlds you might be creating out there.  Not certain how sturdy these things are, but the idea struck me and I thought I'd share it here!<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1710.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> The following products are something I'm just in love with.  These little kits are absolutely awesome little terrain starter kits.  I haven't seen a better pack for such a cheap price anywhere.  Snag one or two of these, a 4x8 of pink foam and some paint and I'd say you have a table people.  I can't speak as to how much stuff is in each one, but they're nicely varied and give you lots of great stuff to work with.  There are different region types to help you really keep your tables unique too.  The only issue I see is making it durable for wargaming.  Most of the stuff is meant to just be sprinkled onto a surface without much of an adhesive.  I'd suggest doing everything in layers with some watered down pva to help keep the stuff on your board.  Anyways check em out:<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1711.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1712.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1713.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> The next bit of product I found was in the dollhouse section.  I've always known the dollhouse area of the store was a gold mine for terrain.  They have lots of great pieces that, if you put a little thought into it, can be easily converted to work for your tables.  Here are just a few things I found that easily translate to the table top:<br /> <br /> [b]Carpet:  [/b]<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1717.jpg[/IMG]<br /> I haven't seen it done yet.  But I WANT to see it done.  I might even make it happen. <br /> <br /> [b]Hardwood flooring:[/b]<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1718.jpg[/IMG]<br /> It's held together by a small piece of plastic sheeting on the back of the wood.  Cut to fit and you've got hardwood floors in your buildings.  <br /> <br /> [b]Bricks:[/b]<br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/02-05-08_1719.jpg[/IMG]<br /> Held together in much the same manner as the hardwood floors.  These are actual clay bricks (in miniature!).  So cut to fit and use the rest as rubble!<br /> <br /> Hope this stuff helps inspire some folks like it did me ^_^.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:00:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Got some paint down on my first US Infantryman.  White primer, solid colors painted then washed it all with black to add some quick and easy depth.  Going to go back over with solid color again and hit it with a stage of highlighting or two.  I still haven't figured out what I want to do for a base.  Anyways, here are the pics]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:47:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They look great! <br /> They look much more realistic than any of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s stuff]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:05:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In recent weeks, I've been more and more inspired to get hands on and do some creating of my own.  With the recent releases by Ultraforge and Lemmingspawns ridiculous mastery of the scratch build, it's hard not to be inspired.  <br /> <br /> Well today I went to go pick up magnets from one of the hobby shops, unfortunately they were out.  But, this led to me walking around the store and finally deciding enough is enough, I want to sculpt.  I picked up a pack of sculpty in green (for easier contrast while sculpting) and quickly got to it.  <br /> <br /> I'm not completely new to sculpting in general mind you.  I just haven't gone past what was required of me during High School way back when.  A few things here and there but never stuck with it.  Those few projects have given me a step up in starting this project though.<br /> <br /> I settled upon just getting used to working with the stuff right now.  Not exactly going all out on a free sculpt of my own ideas.  So I hit the Ultraforge site and settled upon trying to mimic a piece of theirs.  Here are my results so far]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some progress as the night has gone on.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:38:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks awesome so far. The little crater marks on the torso came out great.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> The face looks like it could use a bit more detail though. Possibly a skull? Can never have too many skulls on your minis.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:11:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sweet! keep up the good work!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I apparently need to take a few highschool scuplting classes.<br /> Maybe I can sneak in a few classes at the local community college without my wife noticing I am not studying for my APICS cert. or my GMATs...<br /> <br /> Looks great though, I am really jealous of your skills. I can handle purity seals and hair, and that's been the extent so far.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:49:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I came to the realization that doing an entire figure with sculpey is sort of a waste of effort.  The second you touch the spots you've finished, you go back and have to re-do them.  So I have settled for a simple bust for this go around.  I'm very happy with my results so far and this definitely gives me confidence to move to the green stuff in the future.  A great learning experience all around.  Just gotta bake this bad boy to cure him and I'm possibly going to put paint on em.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Prince looks great. <br /> <br /> I actually packed a box of those Space crystals around for about 10 years and never got around to creating them. thought they'd be great for Tzeencth terrain. I can't say for sure but I'd expect them to be pretty brittle. In the end they just ended up getting tossed during a move.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That turned out Kool!!! Nice work grey_death keep it up!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you should cast that and reproduce it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ nice. i think ill have to pick up the sculpting to. again..]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What's the "sculpty" of which you speak? Sort of a demi-clay that is bakable in an oven? Very curious, especially after seeing your great work.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's called Sculpey.  You can find it in craft stores normally (Michaels, HobbyLobby, etc.).  It stays soft and workable until you bake it.  It gets softer the more you work the clay, so you need to kneed the stuff for a bit when you get ready to work a piece.  <br /> <br /> Definitely a started medium.  I like it for what it can do.  <br /> <br /> I'm considering it as a new terrain medium in the future.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Did you spell Scupley wrong? I'm guessing it's Sculpey.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yep.  Spelled it wrong.  Fixed ^_^;]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:28:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/208099.page]Was inspired by this thread[/url] to come up with my own take on the Leman Russ.  I don't have any plans to build it, I just felt like designing it ^_^.  Check it out]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:35:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks cool.<br /> Is it based on a chimera hull?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:32:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool sketch. I have a buddy who took a Leman Russ chassi and then used Predator turret and side sponsens. It looks much sharper than a standard Russ.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:10:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I based it around the chimera hull.  I was trying to give it a lower profile (standard practice with modern tanks).  <br /> <br /> I took the basic shapes from the M1 Abrams, and added a Leopard II type exhaust system to the back end.  I figure this tank would seat 5 to work all of the weapon systems.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:42:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I want this just for terrain.   The in game use of it is just a bonus. ^_^.  <br /> <br /> [img]http://rackham.fr/images/stories/AT-43/Preview/PREVIEW-MedTec.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> ::waits impatiently for July::]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:20:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Another supply of what could be great terrain.  This time from Petco!<br /> <br /> The aquarium section is chock full of great little aquarium additions that could EASILY be transferred over to wargaming!  Check out these finds:<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/03-03-08_1245.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/03-03-08_1246.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/03-03-08_1247.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/03-03-08_1248.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/03-03-08_1249.jpg[/IMG]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:43:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice find <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>.  $24.99 is a bit steep, but battlin' it out across a shrine world with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> would be sweeeet <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Boss_Salvage]Nice find <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>.  $24.99 is a bit steep, but battlin' it out across a shrine world with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> would be sweeeet <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> - Salvage[/quote]<br /> <br /> Actually I think that was for something else.  If you read it that price tag is for an Egyptian column ruins.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:57:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Those are some great finds in the aquarium section. It seems like every time I look at fish tank items most of them are painted with colors that would make a Slaanesh marine cry.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:08:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Holy Crap!  A painting update!!<br /> <br /> Base coats of shadow grey has gone down for my Stormtrooper squad.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:57:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My website has been relaunched.  Should be able to keep it updated rather easily now that I've decided to stop building my own site in favor of an easy to use program ^_^.  Link is in my sig!<br /> <br /> The stormtroopers will be getting faces sometime today <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>.  ^_-.  <br /> <br /> Stay tuned!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:20:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Faces finished.  Took a while since I wanted variation.  Here's a quick collage of them all ^_^.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:14:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They all have expressions like they are witnessing the horrors of 4Chan made flesh. Not really what I expected from Storm Troopers... hmmm.<br />  Props on making them varied though. I like seeing the small variations in armies. Even though you don't notice it en masse, when you peak closer it adds a nice "Real people/hideous monsters, not assembly line robots." touch.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:18:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Wehrkind]They all have expressions like they are witnessing the horrors of 4Chan made flesh. Not really what I expected from Storm Troopers... hmmm.[/quote]<br /> <br /> For the record, these are quite possibly the worst face sculpts I've had the dis-pleasure of painting.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:24:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was wondering about that - I've seen a variety of your other models and know that faces are not generally a weakness of yours. Too bad they're kludgy sculpts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:31:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some slower progress.  Been working on another...special...model a bit ^_-.  <br /> <br /> But some progress has been made.  Only 2 more troopers to finish the cloth bits on which really doesn't take long so I think I'll knock that out tomorrow.  Anyways, here's where they sit right now.<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/stormtrooperclothwip.jpg[/IMG]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:32:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ARRRRGGGGHHH!!!<br /> Enough of the poor face sculpts! Where's the rest of that Nurgle Demon Prince? You horrible, horrible tease!<br /> <br /> <br /> Ghidorah]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:54:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Demon prince is on the shelf for now!  He will see light some day, just not soon!<br /> <br /> As for horrible face sculpts, here's my first face sculpt ever that I worked up today in about 45 minutes.  <br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0048.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> the neck is connected to a paint pot to give you some scale.  It's big, but it was just an exercise for me.  Nothing serious or even permanent really, this probably will get smashed into it's original sculpey to be used for something else ^_-.  It was fun to try my hand at a face for the first time though.<br /> <br /> <br /> Some issue I have with it:<br /> <br /> The eyes - I'm definitely not happy with how they came out but it's going to take some effort on my part to really learn to sculpt them.<br /> <br /> The ears - they look like cinnamon buns. which makes me hungry. but doesn't make me happy with how I sculpted them. that was mainly because I was too lazy to go looking for a bit of reference.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Alrighty people, I'm at a crossroads.  I'm stuck on what models to get back to work on since finishing my challenge entry.  <br /> <br /> I need your help!! <br /> <br /> Here's what we're looking at:<br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/whotofinish.jpg[/img] <br /> <br /> So?  What do you think??  What's first!?!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:50:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>, great to see you flexing your artistic side!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> As far as completing models, I would suggest the space marine as you already have a sizable grouping of them done already.  Couldn't hurt to add to them by any means.<br /> <br /> A bit of constructive criticism on the head (even though it pertains to 2 dimensions):<br /> <br /> Try to remember to keep everything in proportion.  The easiest way I have found is to break a face down into sections.  what I mean by this is, take the eyes for instance.  both eyes are more or less the same size (depending on your perspective!) and when viewed from head on they will be spaced apart by 1 full eye width.  When I do draw faces I use eye widths and heights to measure the overall width and height of a face.<br /> <br /> Hope that helps, it might seem over complicated but it's pretty simple.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:36:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The marines!! I love them, esp that veteran. Plus they don't have screwey faces and your great simple scheme is a real inspiration for me for planning a marine force soon.<br /> Yeah, i agree with vermgost, from my days studying art faces are all about proportion, just google it and there will be useful guides on dimensions.<br /> <br /> nice blog <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Finished.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That sniper looks ace!  Great work there!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:24:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Got anything that isn't Imperial Trashcans?  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Agreed, love the camo pattern you've gone with.<br /> <br /> Good job]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:20:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great job, the digital camo has worked out really well, as has the beard. Gnarly <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:38:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Spaze Mareenz HURR!!!<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0098.jpg[/IMG] <br /> <br /> &gt;.&gt;...<br /> <br /> Was cleaning out a case to bring to work tomorrow so I can get some painting done in my downtime and as I was putting them on the table I started to wonder just how many GDL models I had &gt;.&gt;.  I've got a lot of marines (another armies worth of Space Pups), but these were specifically designated for the GDL (painted or not).  <br /> <br /> didn't think it was that many...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:35:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some of you might know this terrain.  Some might not.  Anyways, I got some more work done on my Cityfight mini-table.  I got a wild hair last night while drinking to start painting it up again.  So I pulled everything out and got to it.  So far, all I've gotten done is the exterior of the 3 story building.  And even then it's not 100% complete just yet.  Still more detail to go, but it's a hell of a good start.  <br /> <br /> Check it out]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That is a [b]GREAT[/b] building <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>!  I like the addition of the posters as well!  I'm not familiar with the building though, did you scratch build it?  It looks ace though!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The building looks very cool, still clearly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> universe but not the same old cities of death stuff so good job. I have not got around to doing any city terrain since using the collapsed buildings cardboard cutouts from the 2nd edition box set, but one thing I always thought would be quite cool would be to do some painting with light and rig up some coloured LEDs inside to represent interior lights / creepy underground tunnels leaking through / external lighting shining up the side of a building / etc. <br /> <br /> Also your marine scouts are identical in colour scheme to the marine scouts I am painting at the moment <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> must be a dakka mod thing he he. Do you highlight with skull white or do you stop at fortress grey when highlighting the codex grey? I stop at a very light, watered down edging of fortress grey but am not sure it gives it enough impact.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=VermGho5t]That is a [b]GREAT[/b] building <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>!  I like the addition of the posters as well!  I'm not familiar with the building though, did you scratch build it?  It looks ace though![/quote]<br /> <br /> It is indeed scratch built.  And thank you ^_^  <br /> <br /> [quote=legoburner]The building looks very cool, still clearly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> universe but not the same old cities of death stuff so good job. I have not got around to doing any city terrain since using the collapsed buildings cardboard cutouts from the 2nd edition box set, but one thing I always thought would be quite cool would be to do some painting with light and rig up some coloured LEDs inside to represent interior lights / creepy underground tunnels leaking through / external lighting shining up the side of a building / etc. <br /> <br /> Also your marine scouts are identical in colour scheme to the marine scouts I am painting at the moment <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> must be a dakka mod thing he he. Do you highlight with skull white or do you stop at fortress grey when highlighting the codex grey? I stop at a very light, watered down edging of fortress grey but am not sure it gives it enough impact.[/quote]<br /> <br /> I think actual lighting would be a lot of fun for a city board.  I just don't think I'll ever get around to it for a gaming board ^_-. <br /> <br /> As for my scout, I stop at fortress grey highlights.  But it's not a very watered down highlight when I do finish the highlighting.  I start watered down though, and build up the color from there.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:49:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Awesome stuff grey_death! How did you make that building then? I once set about making a cityfight (as it was) board, but after constructing about 10 buildings from cardboard I got depressed with the crapiness of corrugated cardboard and gave up <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> I'd love to see some shots of the marine sniper in a window of the new building ... hint hint<br /> <br /> Onward!<br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ More Progress Shots.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>Btw</span>, if anyone has ideas for interior room colors, let me know ^_^]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:38:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh and I'm doing a Hill Tutorial &gt;.&gt;.  Should be uploaded tomorrow ^_^.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ideas for the walls. <br /> Colours, muted greens, off-white (grimy), miserable prison greys.<br /> Also, i thought you could go for that sort of prison corridor half and half look. A little like this...<br /> <br /> [img]http://www.hoxa.in/UploadedPhotos/IMG_2189.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> I love the removable sections and the detail inside, extremely impressive.<br /> <br /> What materials do you use for the buildings, and are they based on any articles you've found online/elsewhere?<br /> <br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 May 2008 01:27:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's a big freakin' picture.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=DaMaGe]Ideas for the walls. <br /> Colours, muted greens, off-white (grimy), miserable prison greys.<br /> Also, i thought you could go for that sort of prison corridor half and half look. A little like this...<br /> <br /> I love the removable sections and the detail inside, extremely impressive.<br /> <br /> What materials do you use for the buildings, and are they based on any articles you've found online/elsewhere?<br /> <br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-<br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> Diggin the half and half idea.  I'll definitely use that for a corridor/hallway for sure. <br /> <br /> For materials: Foamcore and Balsa wood for basic structure.  For the floors, I used pre-textured plasticard sheets I found in the Dollhouse section of my hobby store.  Works like a charm.  <br /> <br /> I didn't use any real articles for them, I just sort of designed them on the fly and had a base understanding of what I wanted to create.  You definitely want to go into them with a plan before you even start cutting.  Especially when creating interiors like I've done here. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 May 2008 01:43:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What sort of building is it? If it isn't a prison or similar sort of thing (school) but rather a fairly nice admin type building, make sure to put a chair rail of some sort between the two colors on the wall.<br /> <br /> Looks great though man. Your buildings are certainly dead sexy.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 May 2008 16:22:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=malfred]That's a big freakin' picture.[/quote]<br /> <br /> True, but I was in a rush and it was the first good one I found. Maybe I'll make it my wallpaper... hmm...<br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wehrkind - I was definitely thinking along the lines of an admin/office/professional type building.  As for the chair rail, would this just be some sort of molding?  It's a bit late to be gluing more strips in I think, but would I be able to get away with painting one in you think?  Just a darker strip between the two colors? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 May 2008 18:55:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You know, I like the work, but it seems someone can't concentrate on one project at a time...<br /> <br /> Yeah, that's not uncommon really...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok so uh...I didn't realize how many steps I take when creating something as simple as a Hill &gt;.&gt;...<br /> <br /> [url=http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/website/Hill%20tutorial/]Check out the start to a soon to be Hill Tutorial[/url]<br /> <br /> Should take me a while to type everything up.  But I'd expect it should be about finished by the end of next week.<br /> <br /> I'll be posting it here on Dakka as well as my blogsite in my sig.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice Tutorial <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span>.  I would give up half my finished terrain for 2 sheets of the EPF insulation boards like you have!  <img src="/s/i/a/618ca238ac260cc8a402cf6eded61ff4.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 May 2008 00:32:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Go Go Modeling ADD!!! <br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/TeenyOrkses.jpg[/img]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 May 2008 01:48:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh and this epic basing style is 100% Stolen from Ramshackle_Curtis' amazing ork army.  [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210906.page]You should definitely check out his army.[/url]]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Haha, cute. I managed to trace the original post on your citifight board. Would you say a 2x2 board is too small for gaming? I've never played on a board where every gun is pretty much in range from turn 1.<br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=DaMaGe]Haha, cute. I managed to trace the original post on your citifight board. Would you say a 2x2 board is too small for gaming? I've never played on a board where every gun is pretty much in range from turn 1.<br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-[/quote]<br /> <br /> I haven't played many games on the table.  But the key to making a small table is to have lots of intervening terrain elements.  In this case, I've got a 2 story and a 3 story building will full interiors for models to hide in, as well as three other smaller buildings along one of the table edges (just building fronts really).  It does create a lot of great fire lanes for oh say, a heavy bolter &gt;.&gt;.  And you're not going to want to play large games.  Honestly, if you're playing more than 300 points on a 2x2, something is wrong with you!  Initially I built it as a way to play skirmish scale <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> (rule 1: take a single squad rule 2: have at it).  It's fun, and it gives me a chance to focus more on the details instead of trying to finished a giant table with hardly any. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good thinking... personally I prefer smaller points games to large ones. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> was always a skirmish game. When apocalypse came out I groaned. I think I'll go for 4x4 table for ~1000pts.<br /> I did have ambitions for the table to be multilayered - like levels of a hive. But that would be a massive project. Still, I just got kicked out of university - so all the time in the world now <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just finished my hills tutorial today.  [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Hills_Tutorial]Check it out[/url].]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=grey_death]Go Go Modeling ADD!!! <br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/TeenyOrkses.jpg[/img][/quote]<br /> <br /> Nice. Far more appealing than the usual stands of infantry.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more orks modeled.  Paint started on the first base.  I'm going red and yellow for them.  Haven't gotten that far just yet though.  Need to pick up a few paints.  Let me know what you think.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So inspiration hits yesterday.  And I used [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420/75400.page]jamsessionein's awesome stompa[/url] as the basis of an Epic Stompa conversion.  I'm very pleased with the results ^_^:]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are they mounted on nickles?! You can't do that! Stop stealing my ideas!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Aduro]Are they mounted on nickles?! You can't do that! Stop stealing my ideas![/quote]<br /> <br /> Indeed they are ^_^.  And they work out wonderfully.  The only issue I am running into is what to base larger things on.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=grey_death][quote=Aduro]Are they mounted on nickles?! You can't do that! Stop stealing my ideas![/quote]<br /> <br /> Indeed they are ^_^.  And they work out wonderfully.  The only issue I am running into is what to base larger things on.  [/quote]<br /> <br /> Quarters?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Aduro][quote=grey_death][quote=Aduro]Are they mounted on nickles?! You can't do that! Stop stealing my ideas![/quote]<br /> <br /> Indeed they are ^_^.  And they work out wonderfully.  The only issue I am running into is what to base larger things on.  [/quote]<br /> <br /> Quarters?[/quote]<br /> <br /> [i][b][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonie]Toonies?[/url][/b][/i]<br /> <br /> (says the one-upping Canadian jerk...)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 May 2008 05:30:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Aduro]<br /> Quarters?[/quote]<br /> <br /> Quarters don't have the flat edge like nickles do unfortunately, so they wouldn't work.  <br /> <br /> And there's no way I'm using a 2 dollar coin for a base x.x....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 May 2008 20:59:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You could grind the rough edge off, or fill it in with Green Stuff?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 May 2008 21:30:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ To be somewhat more helpful, what about a simple metal washer of the Home Depot variety?  Should be available in any size you need and smooth-edged to boot.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=DFo]To be somewhat more helpful, what about a simple metal washer of the Home Depot variety?  Should be available in any size you need and smooth-edged to boot.[/quote]<br /> <br /> I was actually considering washers for this.  At the very least hitting up both the hobby store and the home depot to see what my options for basing would be.  We'll see if I can swing by tomorrow find something.  It definitely won't be expensive either way.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The bases look like they have lips on the edge, so that corroborates the coin suspicion.  Now all we need is the nationality and denomination.<br /> <br /> Oh, cool epic Orks too.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 May 2008 05:44:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=DFo]To be somewhat more helpful, what about a simple metal washer of the Home Depot variety?  Should be available in any size you need and smooth-edged to boot.[/quote]<br /> Ironically, more expensive than nickels for the same size, though perhaps in bulk you could get them at $0.05 or less.  Also, the hole in the center ... which I was going to ask how you got around cause I figured you had used washers but NO they are indeed nickels!<br /> <br /> But personally I would have used washers with some thin card to cover the hole and glue sand all over.  Big ones for the big stuff too.<br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 May 2008 14:51:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Boss_Salvage][quote=DFo]To be somewhat more helpful, what about a simple metal washer of the Home Depot variety?  Should be available in any size you need and smooth-edged to boot.[/quote]<br /> Ironically, more expensive than nickels for the same size, though perhaps in bulk you could get them at $0.05 or less.  Also, the hole in the center ... which I was going to ask how you got around cause I figured you had used washers but NO they are indeed nickels!<br /> <br /> But personally I would have used washers with some thin card to cover the hole and glue sand all over.  Big ones for the big stuff too.<br /> <br /> - Salvage[/quote]<br /> <br /> Yep, they are indeed nickels.  <br /> <br /> The thin card over the center is what I'm planning for the larger bases though.  I still have to hit the store.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 May 2008 21:43:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can use masking or scotch tape to cover the hole.  I use scotch tape to cover the gaps in slotta-bases and it works great.<br /> <br /> Ozymandias, King of Kings]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 May 2008 00:20:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Ozymandias]You can use masking or scotch tape to cover the hole.  I use scotch tape to cover the gaps in slotta-bases and it works great.<br /> <br /> Ozymandias, King of Kings[/quote]<br /> <br /> I've used this method myself on slotta bases in the past.  Works like a charm for sure.  I was sort of worried about the size of gap I would have in the washers though and was thinking card would be a bit more sturdy.  After picking up the washers today, I'm much less worried about the gap and I think masking tape will work out just fine.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 May 2008 02:53:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Fin.<br /> <br /> On a Specialist Games kick lately.  More to come!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 May 2008 21:43:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Out of curiosity, how many hours a week do you paint on average grey_death? The Skaven looks cool <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, and I like the image presentation too.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=legoburner]Out of curiosity, how many hours a week do you paint on average grey_death? The Skaven looks cool <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, and I like the image presentation too.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Honestly, I don't paint as much as I would like.  I probably get a solid 10 max a week (less depending on what the wife would have me doing).  And most of that is at work between calls (I &lt;3 being a firefighter!).  This guy was about 90-95% by the end of the night yesterday at work.  And he was black primer when I got there.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 May 2008 22:31:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ More Mordheim.  This time it's wyrdstone counters!  A nice simple fun little project. <br /> <br /> Tomorrow I start work on my third skaven, on shift ^_-.  Here's to hoping they don't have Rock Band going to distract me x.x....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 May 2008 21:51:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sweet! Just wondering why ur skaven have snow and the wyrdstone doesn't? Very tidy painting... the darker skaven in particular has great highlighting on the cloak.<br /> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>DMG</span>-]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 May 2008 14:10:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Damage - I wanted to keep the Wyrdstone sort of neutral with it's basing.  <br /> <br /> Thanks for the compliments.  <br /> <br /> I hope to have another model finished sometime soon.  Didn't get quite as much done yesterday at work as I would have liked.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 May 2008 23:07:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ nice ratmen!!!<br /> it looks like you've taken a leap with the skills...<br /> the nmm gold bracelet on the first skaven looks really good, but those blades look way too clean...one advantage of nmm is the ability to paint a much more visible tone of weatherin'without havin' to go over the top)...even just some orangey brown washes along the hilt and up the blade a bit will lend more atmosphere to the minis...<br /> keep up the good work...<br /> <br /> cheers<br />  jah<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2008 00:59:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=jah-joshua]nice ratmen!!!<br /> it looks like you've taken a leap with the skills...<br /> the nmm gold bracelet on the first skaven looks really good, but those blades look way too clean...one advantage of nmm is the ability to paint a much more visible tone of weatherin'without havin' to go over the top)...even just some orangey brown washes along the hilt and up the blade a bit will lend more atmosphere to the minis...<br /> keep up the good work...<br /> <br /> cheers<br />  jah<br /> <br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> I've been thinking about how I would want to go about weathering these guys if I did.  Thanks for the advice on the washes, I was thinking that would work out well, but I didn't want to experiment just yet with it.  Right now it's all about getting them painted up for the campaign and learning a a few techniques along the way ^_-.  I'll keep your advice in mind as I get some more time to go back and do a little bit more detailing later.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2008 01:52:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, so I buckled down and finished this bad boy.  I have to say, he was not easy to paint at all.  Lots of little detail, some of which doesn't take paint very well at all.  But I got him finished to a pretty good standard, and I'm just sick of messing with him at this point x.x. <br /> <br /> You can see I used the Adept to help tie the other two together more.  While each model will be different, the colors will tie them together quite nicely.  Go Go Limited Color Palette!<br /> <br /> Comments and crits much appreciated.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 May 2008 04:58:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more progress with my warband.  They're coming along a bit slower than I'd like them to, but these models are friggin detailed as hell.  It's hard to rush something like that when they're so important to making the model have some real character and stand out in a band of 10 or so models.  <br /> <br /> I also got my first few games in for the campaign (I played with a half silver warband...).  You can see my thoughts on those [url=http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/212243.page]here in my Skirmish Scale Games thread[/url].  <br /> <br /> A small disclaimer about the pictures:  I just moved into a new place, and don't have the same set up as before, so while I'm figuring all of the lighting out, I apologize for the quality.<br /> <br /> Anyways, On with the photos.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Those are some great lookin' Skaven! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Beautiful little Skaven.  They Look wonderful.  The limited colors does make them look great together.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the compliments guys ^_^.  I'm really hoping they'll look just as good across the board as I finish more of them along the way.  Hopefully I can at least have the base warband completely painted by the end of the campaign.  <br /> <br /> For my next model, I've gone with my fighting claws black skaven (The Black skaven that's painted without the weeping blade has become a henchman!).  <br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/fightingclaws.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> The funny part is that he's probably about 45%-50% completed right now &gt;.&gt;...I'm sure you know where I'm going with this guy.  Stay tuned.  <br /> <br /> As always, C&C welcome and appreciated!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice as always Grey.  On the newest painted pics, are those metal models?  Or plastic just done very well?<br /> <br /> Either way, the crew is shaping up nicely.<br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Boss_Salvage]Nice as always Grey.  On the newest painted pics, are those metal models?  Or plastic just done very well?<br /> <br /> Either way, the crew is shaping up nicely.<br /> <br /> - Salvage[/quote]<br /> <br /> Thanks man.  The newest guys are metal gutterrunners.  For some reason I can't stand the plastics with their huge chunky arms and weapons...Maybe with enough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> work they could look nice...but as is, I just couldn't bring myself to pick them up.  Running out of options for different models though since the metal line is somewhat limited for what I want/need.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I havent been here for a while, and imagine my surprise, when i get back to check your stuff and see that, your already achieved painting tecnique, has developed a LOT in this time... great evolution mate! <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice work Grey!!! My comments stand and I am enjoying the trip  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really appreciate the compliments guys.  <br /> <br /> I've been talking with migs about the direction my painting is going in.  <br /> <br /> I've been really just focusing 100% on my technical painting ability as of late.  I've been pouring all of my effort into learning with each piece.  <br /> <br /> With that though, I've come to realize (thanks to migs!) that I've really been letting my own style and influence flounder some.  That's not to say that I haven't put myself into each piece, it's just that I have put technical ability above personal 'flair' on my priority list while I go about painting each new model.  <br /> <br /> For the folks out there that enjoy watching me grow as a painter, I'd expect to see more of 'me' in new projects in the future.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And with your words, there is much rejoycing!<br /> <br /> I always love looking over models to see the individual... I want to say flaws, but there's nothing wrong with them. The individual... personality! That's the word, personality. You can see it resonate from the pieces that the painters truly pour themselves into. I think your already amazing work will become so much better with your new painting personality!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ New project piece started.  I've decided to try my hand at creating a fantasy based building.  This is all influenced by how much fun I'm having digging into Mordheim.  This piece is going to be a complete building, much unlike what most people come to associate with Mordheim.  It's all in an effort to try out some things in the construction of the building and see how well I can emulate some of the concept work I've come to admire from Warhammer Online on the tabletop.<br /> <br /> To start me off, I've used a piece of precut and beveled MDF I had laying about.  It was originally going to be used for a tree/shack template.  But I didn't feel like cutting and sanding down another piece, so it was hijacked.  <br /> <br /> I measured out some pink insulation foam (1" thick) to the dimensions I wanted and got to cutting them out.  After dry-fitting them, I sanded the edges a bit to make them fit a slight better.  <br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/pinkfoamfoundation.jpg[/IMG]<br /> <br /> I then glued the pieces together using small pieces of wood pushed into the joining edges of the foam to help lock them more firmly in place.  At this time I also glued everything to the base.  <br /> <br /> At them moment I'm just waiting for the glue to dry before I continue the construction.  <br /> <br /> I'm planning on the first section being 5" tall, followed by a smaller, yet wider, section on top of that in standard half timber design.  <br /> <br /> All the pink foam will be stone work.  I'm still undecided on just HOW I'll go about working the stone.  I could very well just press directely into the foam.  Or I could go about it in much the same way that I had done my rock faces on my Autumn foothills table.  <br /> <br /> I'll also need to hit up the hobby shop in search of some plastic tubing and possibly get my hands on some plasticard sheets as well.  <br /> <br /> The following are my inspiration for this project:<br /> <br /> [url=http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CT1207_44.jpg]Click me to see where the basic shape of this project came from.[/url]<br /> [url=http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CA0707_18.jpg]Click me to see some detailing that will be incorporated.[/url]<br /> [url=http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CA0707_13.jpg]Click me to be inspired to do something ridiculously large.[/url]<br /> [url=http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CA0707_31.jpg]Click me to see roof detailing that will be incorporated.[/url]<br /> <br /> I'm really excited to be doing something like this.  While the playability may suffer for the piece being a complete structure, I'm really not interested in ruining detail for the sake of playability for this one.  It's all about the detail and composition.  <br /> <br /> I'd love to hear peoples thoughts.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm tingling from anticipation! I'd like to make a suggestion for this. Even if you make it as creepy as the pics, I'd like to see you attempt to make some Ivy crawling its way up the side of the building that would be really cool! Good luck and good sculpting!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, so I screwed the rock sides up a bit by trying to go with the spackle sculpted sides.  I got into it and hated what was happening and ripped that crap off.  In the process I really dinged up the sides of the foam.  <br /> <br /> The whole ordeal inspired me to go pick up a new tool.  It's a wand like styrofoam cutter called [url=http://www.hobbymasters.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=13015]The Styrocutter Plus[/url].  It's a really really neat little tool that makes foam shaping a snap.  I've only had the thing for a few minutes and I'm already in love with the results you can get out of it.  The end is a bit thick though and I think that's my only complaint with it.  It won't replace your wire foam cutter for accuracy, but for shaping and detailing, it's hard to beat.  <br /> <br /> More as I get used to using it and as I make more progress with my project ^_^!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am just using the method I've used before with my [url=http://thepaintingcorps.blogspot.com/2008/03/stone-walls-quick-how-to.html]stone walls[/url], cutting into the foam with a hobby knife at angles to get a stacked stones look. Only this is way more detailed than that ^_-.<br /> <br /> Anyways, here's where we're at right now]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just discoverd that styro cutter as well.  Makes cutting out basic shapes and large shapes the regualr wire cutter just couldnt reach very easy.<br /> <br /> This is an ambitious project, but judging by your works so far i think we will all be eager to see  the results!<br /> <br /> Meph]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your more ADD then me.<br /> <br /> There great like them though.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Another skaven done.  I'm thinking the sorcerer is next up.  C&C welcome and appreciated as always.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So far all your work is amazing I would like to see more non <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stuff though <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Very very nice<br /> <br /> Black is not so easy to pull off, Cloak looks great<br /> <br /> HFN]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hey grey_death; on this mini of yours:<br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0340.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> is the right (gun) arm plastic? If so what kit does it come in? I have been trying to track it down for a few days without success now.<br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:40:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey lego, <br /> <br /> The arm is actually the Emp Champs arm with the black sword.  I cut the hand at the wrist and replaced it with a plastic hand to grip the bolt pistol.  <br /> <br /> The left arm is much the same, chopped at the wrist with plastic bits replacing metal.   <br /> <br /> The head, once again, chopped off and replaced with plastic.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:38:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That mini with bolt pistol and sword is beautiful. Is it a power sword? How did you do it?!? If you could describe your method itd be much appreciated. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> love to give it a try on the termies Im working on.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:16:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I used a technique called glazing.  Basically you take very watered down paint and get just enough in your brush so that it leaves an extremely thin coat of paint on the surface of the mini.  This is done by dipping your brush into the watered down paint and using a paper towel to help soak up all of the excess.  This keeps it from becoming a wash and gives you control over where your 'glaze' goes.  <br /> <br /> I worked my way up from a black undercoat/basecoat for the sword using scab red glazes (lots and lots and lots of layers of glaze).  The glazes give you a smoother transition than you would get by simply layer painting.  With each glaze you want to start slightly further up the sword so the last layer is slightly exposed.  Do this until you get a fully scab red tip for your sword.  <br /> <br /> Next up I used blood red in much the same manner, only more directed to the edges of the sword, as well as the 'hatch' marks along the blade.  Again, work your way slowly up to solid blood red.  <br /> <br /> I then mixed blood red with fiery orange about 50/50 and picked out some edges with a slightly less watered down paint.  <br /> <br /> Finally I used fiery orange at the very tip and some of the edges to really bring it to life.  <br /> <br /> Hope that helps x.x...<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:31:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I picked up one of the wash colors from GeeDub this week.  I just really wanted to give it an initial test and see what I could come up with for a quick effect with it.  So I snagged a model and went to it.  <br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/sepiawashtest.jpg[/IMG]<br /> note:  the colors are a bit off, I'm still getting used to my new photo set up.  <br /> This was a heavy sepia wash, cleaned up with a highlight of bleached bone and final highlight along the edges of skull white.  <br /> <br /> Have to say, very impressed with what I've been able to do with it so far.  More tests in the future of course.  But Bone colored armor is a cinch with this stuff.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:56:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A little more work done on my building project ^_^.  I know it's coming along really really really slow.  It's just hard to find time for all of the stuff I want to do!  <br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0012.jpg[/IMG]]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh man, that is coming along great <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>gd</span>!  Is that balsa wood on the frame and such?  How does the detail come out when painted?  Do you have to texture it at all (carve grain into it, etc.) ?<br /> <br /> I wish, for the love of god the home depot near here sold Owens Corning Foamular 150 hi density foam like that!  Will probably have to order it over the phone and then a six hour drive just for a few sheets]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:38:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Verm - It is a mix of balsa wood and craft sticks.  I'm honestly not too sure how the detail will come out for the craft sticks.  I think they'll have a smoother look to them compared to the balsa wood.  But that variation will give the piece some character that would otherwise be missing.  <br /> <br /> &lt;3 my home depots.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:58:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your really good. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:50:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more work done on my building:<br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0024.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> [img]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0025.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Still some more little stuff to add to the front.  But it's pretty much finished.  I'll probably move on to the sides next.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:53:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some more work done on the sides of the building.  As well as a bit of additional detailing.  Check it out:<br /> <br /> [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/raynotisick/IMG_0028.jpg[