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Loving the mega and meka dread, mekadread self repairs and buffs itself LOL

Warboss on bike is a leader but leads... nothing LOL


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normal squiggoth also looking really nice, same for kill tank and gargantuan

not a fan of grot mega tank, and i am barely warm to normal grot tanks although you can put 5 rockets on the tanks, they look like better kans at shooting and with higher move.

A unit of Nobz on bikes all armed with killsawz looks really spicy! If they fix the wb on bike to be able to lead(anything), then this could be a real menacing unit.

A minimum sized unit will, on waagh, pump out 13 attacks hitting on 3's, str 13, ap -3 2 damage. They can also auto adv 6" and have a 6" pile in/consolidate. All for 210 points.

Hitting on 4's for all heavy weapons and 1 less attack on kill saw on nobz bikes, that threw me off them.

Ya, kinda needs the wb on bike. I am hoping they will update who he can lead. Not worth it at all without him.

 JohnU wrote:

They forgot the units the bike boss can attach to

FW and missing keywords, name a more iconic duo

I was hoping for a dust cloud ability but this one will work fine, looking forward to getting a real Speedwaaagh detachment as well.

So..... thinking about making the terrible decision to buy me some Orks. Not too concerned about making them competitive, but really wanting to do something speed waaagh focused. What buggies are currently worth picking up?

Barely any buggie is worth it, their weird this edition, best one looks to be rukkatruck against infantry and the dragsta, to steal objectives and snipe char, and scrajet? Maybe? Have to test... if the meta revolves around vehicles and monsters it will be a struggle since at best they have 9S and also we lack rules to support shooting, you will probably want to buy mek's though.. i would advise to hold for now and wait for the codex to release new worth while detachment for shooting and speed waaghh. Just my thoughts.

Forceride wrote:
Barely any buggie is worth it, their weird this edition, best one looks to be rukkatruck against infantry and the dragsta, to steal objectives and snipe char, and scrajet? Maybe? Have to test... if the meta revolves around vehicles and monsters it will be a struggle since at best they have 9S and also we lack rules to support shooting, you will probably want to buy mek's though.. i would advise to hold for now and wait for the codex to release new worth while detachment for shooting and speed waaghh. Just my thoughts.

Probably the best choice. Mostly just have the opportunity to pick up the Killdakka box at a pretty solid discount. Considering picking it up and sitting on it until I have an opportunity to focus on it. Plenty on my backlog at the moment either way.

 LunarSol wrote:

Forceride wrote:
Barely any buggie is worth it, their weird this edition, best one looks to be rukkatruck against infantry and the dragsta, to steal objectives and snipe char, and scrajet? Maybe? Have to test... if the meta revolves around vehicles and monsters it will be a struggle since at best they have 9S and also we lack rules to support shooting, you will probably want to buy mek's though.. i would advise to hold for now and wait for the codex to release new worth while detachment for shooting and speed waaghh. Just my thoughts.

Probably the best choice. Mostly just have the opportunity to pick up the Killdakka box at a pretty solid discount. Considering picking it up and sitting on it until I have an opportunity to focus on it. Plenty on my backlog at the moment either way.

That's a good call, would do the same.

Grot tanks seem like the big winner out of the fw. 10pts cheaper than kans for a faster rokkit platform plus one gets 2 rokkits. Garg squig I think will be fun to use, but I really wish they would of made its transport capacity same as bw. :(

Just caught up on fw sheets haven’t even read comments here but orks made out like bandits.
They screwed up big trakk sheet and didn’t reduce transport for suppakanon. For 25 pts more then trukk this transport is insane…

Warboss on bike fix the leader and nob bikers w pks are great
Nobs on bike.. better warbikers all w pks, needs warboss on bike but they are extremely fast. Whereas the normal warbikers were cheap they didn’t do anything well. This unit does hit harder and is a more self contained unit of mobile pks.

Big trakk- likely OP without errata
Small squiggoth- good price point on a tough transport, would be great if we didn’t have trukks and trakks

Killtank- is just straight better then nauts

Grot mega not my thing but worth the points
The above Are all great

Meka dread is good 4+bs and self heal able to double killkannon as well.. playable but a lil pricey for competitive a 5++ kff save would have made it competitive. (I would likely play klaw and killkannon varient for fun)
Big squig is good but still alot of points (ard as nails/fight on death saves this unit). Strats make this unit annoyingly difficult to kill.

Only miss is mega dread (just take meka dread, boombits aren’t worth it) and kinda grot mini tanks which are still ok but essentially just a killakan variant that’s arguably worse or at best the same.

Of the above bigtrakk will be seen in competitive lists even after an errata on transport. You might see a random garg squig do well in tourney too.

Forgot you can use -1 to wound on garg squig, never mind that thing is actually insanely durable for the points. Does anyone know of some “totally legal” fw sellers that might have garg squigs for a couple hundred bucks instead of having to take out a mortgage for a house I don’t have. 😂

I do find it weird that some vehicles get the 6+ invuln save like the Big Trakk and Mega/Meka Dreads but stuff like the Kill Tank and Grot Mega Tanks don't have it for some reason.

 flaming tadpole wrote:
Forgot you can use -1 to wound on garg squig, never mind that thing is actually insanely durable for the points. Does anyone know of some “totally legal” fw sellers that might have garg squigs for a couple hundred bucks instead of having to take out a mortgage for a house I don’t have. 😂

3d print it mate, there's some free ones

Forceride wrote:

 flaming tadpole wrote:
Forgot you can use -1 to wound on garg squig, never mind that thing is actually insanely durable for the points. Does anyone know of some “totally legal” fw sellers that might have garg squigs for a couple hundred bucks instead of having to take out a mortgage for a house I don’t have. 😂

3d print it mate, there's some free ones

true true

 Grimskul wrote:
I do find it weird that some vehicles get the 6+ invuln save like the Big Trakk and Mega/Meka Dreads but stuff like the Kill Tank and Grot Mega Tanks don't have it for some reason.

That is interesting. One of 10th's simplifications is swapping out the ramshackle rule for a 6+ Invul, I guess the Grot engineers are too good at their jobs for the tanks to be considered ramshackle

 The Red Hobbit wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
I do find it weird that some vehicles get the 6+ invuln save like the Big Trakk and Mega/Meka Dreads but stuff like the Kill Tank and Grot Mega Tanks don't have it for some reason.

That is interesting. One of 10th's simplifications is swapping out the ramshackle rule for a 6+ Invul, I guess the Grot engineers are too good at their jobs for the tanks to be considered ramshackle

I mean given that Big Trakk's can't take killkannons like they say they can on their datasheet and how the WB on Warbike can't lead anything, hopefully this is just an oversight on GW's part.

 JohnU wrote:


For 110, the Grot-Mega Tank might actually be...good?

Yes, its been downgraded from fantastic.

Im not sure i like it for 110 points. No invul though it gets armor of contempt if i dont remember too wrongly.

only 2D3 rokkit attacks now and 10 shots that nets you 5 hits with str 5, and no AP. (sure you have rapid fire 10 but within 9 inches)

Why did they butcher our vehicles shooting capabilities like this?

Also why is the kustom mega blastas that it carries only shooting 2 shots rather than 3?

It used to be an amazing shooting platform though. 125 points for 7 scorchas was a steal.

Much rather bring grot tanks for shooting, that's 5 rockets for 4 tanks shooting in 3(with mek) with a move ability if anyone comes close.

I prefer the meka dreads but can see both squiggoth hitting the tables, the -1 strat and flamers being something interesting? Or vomiting melee on opponent.

The gargantuan has also fight on death and lance on the weapon, and hits D12 or swipes.

Big Trakk rules confuse me. It is not just a “hahaha they wrote a Killkanon instead of Supakannon” issue.

There is a model of Suppa Kannon this model can be equiped. It Is/was for sale.

There is absolutely no model of Kanon you can put it on. Yeah, great idea to kitbash something (kanons for free!) but this goes directly againts GW policy “rules just for stuff we have for sale”.

And the “supakannon” profila is obviously a Killkanon profile.

No, if there is new model on the way, GW realease the promo about the models first and rules later.

This is very much FUBAR datasheet.
The right version is just the Supakannon rules from squighog with zero or halfed transport capacity. This makes sence regarding the available plastic/resin for sale.

But I 'm not so idwalist expecting fix sooner than in 4-124 weeks. If any… say hallo to Kanonwagon without WAGON keyword…

Speaking about Kannonwagon…. Big Trakk with real Supa Kanon like gargsquig has… for 75p? Shut up and take my money!

 Tomsug wrote:
Big Trakk rules confuse me. It is not just a “hahaha they wrote a Killkanon instead of Supakannon” issue.

There is a model of Suppa Kannon this model can be equiped. It Is/was for sale.

There is absolutely no model of Kanon you can put it on. Yeah, great idea to kitbash something (kanons for free!) but this goes directly againts GW policy “rules just for stuff we have for sale”.

And the “supakannon” profila is obviously a Killkanon profile.

No, if there is new model on the way, GW realease the promo about the models first and rules later.

This is very much FUBAR datasheet.
The right version is just the Supakannon rules from squighog with zero or halfed transport capacity. This makes sence regarding the available plastic/resin for sale.

Fun fact - the squiggoth model originally wasn't meant to go with the supa cannon, but with a different one that is also out of print now.

The supa-kannon was last chance to buy a couple of months ago, so it's not surprising to see it disappear just like the lifta-droppa before.

By the time 11th rolls around I expect FW to be completely gone outside of titan-sized models. In essence, the last articles said as much anyways.

 Tomsug wrote:
Speaking about Kannonwagon…. Big Trakk with real Supa Kanon like gargsquig has… for 75p? Shut up and take my money!

Seem like the perfect datasheet for looted russes.

Funny how if you just want cheap Nobz with choppers to clear infantry it would be cheaper to buy Flash Gitz who has actual choppas + their snazzguns, than actual Nobz.

Also whats the point of Big choppas? The powerklaws seem vastly surperior.

Beardedragon wrote:
Im not sure i like it for 110 points. No invul though it gets armor of contempt if i dont remember too wrongly.

only 2D3 rokkit attacks now and 10 shots that nets you 5 hits with str 5, and no AP. (sure you have rapid fire 10 but within 9 inches)

Why did they butcher our vehicles shooting capabilities like this?

Also why is the kustom mega blastas that it carries only shooting 2 shots rather than 3?

It used to be an amazing shooting platform though. 125 points for 7 scorchas was a steal.

It was also a steal at 160pts with 7 KMB.
7 - 21 S8 -3ap d6 damage shots hitting on 4+....
That's alot of Dakka. And I could put it in Tellyporta.
I deleted or at least mauled many targets throughout 2022 with this setup.

Now.... :(
But I'll still use it as it's part of my Grot army.

ccs wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:
Im not sure i like it for 110 points. No invul though it gets armor of contempt if i dont remember too wrongly.

only 2D3 rokkit attacks now and 10 shots that nets you 5 hits with str 5, and no AP. (sure you have rapid fire 10 but within 9 inches)

Why did they butcher our vehicles shooting capabilities like this?

Also why is the kustom mega blastas that it carries only shooting 2 shots rather than 3?

It used to be an amazing shooting platform though. 125 points for 7 scorchas was a steal.

It was also a steal at 160pts with 7 KMB.
7 - 21 S8 -3ap d6 damage shots hitting on 4+....
That's alot of Dakka. And I could put it in Tellyporta.
I deleted or at least mauled many targets throughout 2022 with this setup.

Now.... :(
But I'll still use it as it's part of my Grot army.

Well. from a durbility point of view it wasnt great at 160 points. Sure the damage was great though. But the scorcha tank just hit all the right spots at being cheap for its durbility and cheap for its damage

Beardedragon wrote:
Im not sure i like it for 110 points. No invul though it gets armor of contempt if i dont remember too wrongly.

only 2D3 rokkit attacks now and 10 shots that nets you 5 hits with str 5, and no AP. (sure you have rapid fire 10 but within 9 inches)

Why did they butcher our vehicles shooting capabilities like this?

Also why is the kustom mega blastas that it carries only shooting 2 shots rather than 3?

It used to be an amazing shooting platform though. 125 points for 7 scorchas was a steal.

It was also a steal at 160pts with 7 KMB.
7 - 21 S8 -3ap d6 damage shots hitting on 4+....
That's alot of Dakka. And I could put it in Tellyporta.
I deleted or at least mauled many targets throughout 2022 with this setup.

Now.... :(
But I'll still use it as it's part of my Grot army.

I don't know if I see the appeal of nob bikers, knowing that squighogs exist.

They're somehow more expensive.

 TedNugent wrote:
I don't know if I see the appeal of nob bikers, knowing that squighogs exist.

They're somehow more expensive.

Yes, but move 18” and charge in waaaghand taking Warboss on Warbike / Wartrike with them. Move 20” and charge with the enhancement. And than Consolidate 6”. They can be on the other side of the table in asingle turn.

Squighog boyz do their 10”+D6” = 13,5” ignoring modifiers. Totaly different ammount of movement.

Their CC is in comparison with the Killsaw Nobz different. Nobz are definitely better in killing elite infantry.

Snaggas are T7 W3 4+/5+++, Nobz are T6 W4 4+/6++

They are quite a different unit imho…

 TedNugent wrote:
I don't know if I see the appeal of nob bikers, knowing that squighogs exist.

They're somehow more expensive.

IMO GW made squig hogs to fill in the role nob bikers used to have, just like the squigboss and wartrike take the roles of warboss on warbiker and wazzdakka repectively.

Let's hope that enough marine players buy the new terminators and sternguard so GW keeps giving us actual replacement for aged units instead continuing with approach of creating replacements instead of upgrades.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Tomsug wrote:
Speaking about Kannonwagon…. Big Trakk with real Supa Kanon like gargsquig has… for 75p? Shut up and take my money!

Seem like the perfect datasheet for looted russes.

Yeah!!


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Is there a chance GW add the FW units in his new app or is my wish totaly out of this world?