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tneva82 wrote:
We knew on day leviathan sprues was shown that sprue comes to sale.

No we didn't. There's always a chance that some things would get full release kits.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So here goes the hope for the new, updated, multipart Carnifex kit.

You think a new Carnifex kit would be in any way as flexible and option-rich as the current one?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You think a new Carnifex kit would be in any way as flexible and option-rich as the current one?

I sure don't. Im perfectly happy and content with the current kit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

You think a new Carnifex kit would be in any way as flexible and option-rich as the current one?

Experience so far tells me that some options would be lost but I still would prefer one carnie kit rather than two, each looking like a separate species rather than the same unit that is simply differently armed.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So here goes the hope for the new, updated, multipart Carnifex kit. Screamer is the same push fit from the Leviathan, sharing sprue with Neurotyrant.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/10/sunday-preview-kill-team-salvation-stalks-into-view/

I wouldn't hope too hard, ask csm players how the wait for a standalone venomcrawler is going.

How’s the wait for a standalone venomcrawler going?

*runs away giggling*

Bob Lorgar wrote:
So he's an Ork that can't lift his own gun and needs help from a squiq? That won't get him beat up by the other Orks or anything...

He lifts the gun without Princess just fine in the book. This is just to improve his aim.

In some ways a new Carny could end up being 4 or 5 individual models. Screamer Killer; Old One Eye; Crusher; and then some carny with light guns and one with heavy guns.


It lets GW release more models and have less modular carnifex kits; at the same time I could see the Carny losing an option or two along the way. If just because we have better options now - eg a fex with venom cannon was the go-too anti tank; but now we've the Rupture Cannon on a Tyrannofex that's just vastly superior as a choice.



The worst option loss in the Tyranid range right now are the Warriors which have lost all their close combat weapon variety. I still think this is cause there's a new warrior kit in the works that has swapped the close combat weapons for wing options which will bring the warriors into line with the new winged prime. So we'd have ranged options or winged close combat; with fewer close combat weapon options so that GW didn't have to increase the sprue count to add the wings

That's my going theory supported by the lack of close combat weapon variety in the codex and the choice to give the leader-prime model wings, which right now are near useless if its leading a unit because its the only model in the unit with wings attached.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So here goes the hope for the new, updated, multipart Carnifex kit. Screamer is the same push fit from the Leviathan, sharing sprue with Neurotyrant.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/10/sunday-preview-kill-team-salvation-stalks-into-view/

I wouldn't hope too hard, ask csm players how the wait for a standalone venomcrawler is going.

How’s the wait for a standalone venomcrawler going?

*runs away giggling*

AWFUL! It will have been 5 years without a standalone kit this coming March!

 Overread wrote:

The worst option loss in the Tyranid range right now are the Warriors which have lost all their close combat weapon variety. I still think this is cause there's a new warrior kit in the works that has swapped the close combat weapons for wing options which will bring the warriors into line with the new winged prime. So we'd have ranged options or winged close combat; with fewer close combat weapon options so that GW didn't have to increase the sprue count to add the wings

That's my going theory supported by the lack of close combat weapon variety in the codex and the choice to give the leader-prime model wings, which right now are near useless if its leading a unit because its the only model in the unit with wings attached.

I think you are right, especially now when Prime is released separately. Warriors will probably have talons as their only cc, Shrikes being pure cc variant like their Prime.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Overread wrote:

The worst option loss in the Tyranid range right now are the Warriors which have lost all their close combat weapon variety. I still think this is cause there's a new warrior kit in the works that has swapped the close combat weapons for wing options which will bring the warriors into line with the new winged prime. So we'd have ranged options or winged close combat; with fewer close combat weapon options so that GW didn't have to increase the sprue count to add the wings

That's my going theory supported by the lack of close combat weapon variety in the codex and the choice to give the leader-prime model wings, which right now are near useless if its leading a unit because its the only model in the unit with wings attached.

I think you are right, especially now when Prime is released separately. Warriors will probably have talons as their only cc, Shrikes being pure cc variant like their Prime.

Yeah, I'd still have liked GW to leave the warriors alone and given the Shrikes their very own kit totally built for flying from the ground up; but if we get shrikes and warriors in one kit I won't be sad.

Dark Angels leaks:



Whats interesting is that these very much look like back of the box images but then why are both Belial and Asmodai on the same one?
The rumoured DA boxset only has Belial in it if I remember correctly? So either that changed or there might be a Dark Angels character box?

Edit: likely not the back of a box but the codex instead

Kinda looks like it might be photos of a screenshot of an unpublished warcom article or whatever. Or photos of a codex page?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Or photos of a codex page?

Thats likely it.

Which does mean the Companions aren't necessarily a 3-man squad as the codex often doesn't show every model of a box in their showcase section. 

 Matrindur wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Or photos of a codex page?

Thats likely it.

Which does mean the Companions aren't necessarily a 3-man squad as the codex often doesn't show every model of a box in their showcase section. 

They look like a bladeguard equivalent so I fully expect 3 man units tbh in line with other primaris elite dudes.

Dudeface wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Or photos of a codex page?

Thats likely it.

Which does mean the Companions aren't necessarily a 3-man squad as the codex often doesn't show every model of a box in their showcase section. 

They look like a bladeguard equivalent so I fully expect 3 man units tbh in line with other primaris elite dudes.

According to Valraks newest video they are a 3-man box as far as he was told so seems like they are DA bladeguard

Kinda dumb they released bladeguard alongside the lion then. And made them deathwing

Ones from those photos look great. Hopefully more leaks soon.

Angels appear for Christmas Day

Also better pictures for Belial and Companions:




Love that upgrade sprue and hope we'll get those for every chapter (or at least for BA/SW)

Also if we estimate the price for Belial/Deathwing Knights/Upgrade sprue based on existing kits and add the codex and datacard prices, the army set would have about 312€ inside which at the last army set prices of 170€ would be a 46% discount. The last few army sets had about 43% discount so seems believable.
The assumed prices are: 35€ for Belial as he should be a bit more expensive than the pushfit Terminator Librarian, 55€ for the Deathwing Knights (same as the Terminators), 27€ for the upgrade sprue (same as the Cadian and BT ones) and the same prices for the Codex and Datacards as the current stuff so 46€ and 12€

At least 3 Rumour Engines are solved?

Wow a box full of termis thats is going to sell out in minus 10 minutes.

 Matrindur wrote:
Love that upgrade sprue and hope we'll get those for every chapter (or at least for BA/SW)

I just hope that when it comes to the SW upgrade sprue, they remember that other Great Companies exist and that the blackmaned wolf is not the chapter symbol.

Pretty cool. The Plasma Cannon is ace. I like Belial (I swear, if you painted the un-hooded head black he'd be a dead ringer for Teal'c).

But... would it have killed them to put 3 of the Ravenwing spines on the sprue?

I noticed that if you look bottom right corner you can see transfer sheet for DA but that it also includes transfers for other chapters. Lovely.

Very sexy!


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I’m…I’m gonna end up doing Dark Angels in Epic, Heresy and 40K, aren’t I?

Nice sprue. I'll agree that it should have more winged hussar bits.

Companions are Fallen?

Well, Risen

This is the first such boxed set I’m actually kind of tempted by.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
At least 3 Rumour Engines are solved?

Looks like five. Yesterday's, the bolter, the sword sheath, the censer and the skeleton with the cross.

So, are they showing us the rest of them too? Or just the ones people manage to leak?

Who knows?

I think we can reasonably assume the article was written ahead of time, and they just changed the ‘go live’ time. So I suspect the others will also be ready to go.

When we might see them? Who knows.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So, are they showing us the rest of them too? Or just the ones people manage to leak?

There were 2 Old World and 2 Age of Sigmar videos hidden yesterday but no 40k.

I think this one is out of sequence.