Barzam wrote: I figure I ought to share a couple interesting tidbits that showed up during this weekend's Wonderfest in Japan.
1) more Dougram models, including the Bushman, a Blockhead type C, and the Maverick carrier helicopter. Large picture spoiler'd below.
I am amazed some of you guys know Dougram. Most US robot fans know these designs from Battletech. I am from the US, but I grew up in South East Asia and was there around the time Dougram first aired on TV. It was one of my first favorite robot shows. Loved the kits.
Took me years to figure out the story background, and many years after moving to the US, found a guy in Japan who helped me get as much Dougram stuff as he could. I compiled it on my first website I ever made while in college at www.dougram.com (if you can believe it that domain was available to register). But after a few years I got over it and let the domain expire.
There have been cooler and most realistic robot designs since, but there is something about Dougram I just love. Kind of has a WWII with robots feel to it.
I first saw them at Toys R Us around the time Transformers came out and we were all robot crazy. 83? 84?
I had Dougram and the green guy. In my head canon version of the Transformers they were human mechs made to match the invaders from Cybertron.
Then the designs showed up in a DC comic called Robotech Defenders.
Some of the model kits were imported and available from Monogram. Others were around at import stories like Forbidden Planet. They had a great look but I never bought them.
I still have a vintage slipcase hybrid model Soltic hanging around somewhere at my parents' house. I ought to dig it out just for nostalgia.
Speaking of Toys R' Us, one of my worst memories I can recall was finding the big Godakin/ Chogokin DX of Gardian, the robot in a robot in a robot (Yo dawg, I heard you like robots...) for the clearance price of a measly 5 dollars.
I begged, pleaded, whined and tried anything and everything I could to get my parents to buy it, explaining it was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
The famous words were uttered "It'll be there next time." Yeah right.
I am amazed some of you guys know Dougram. Most US robot fans know these designs from Battletech. I am from the US, but I grew up in South East Asia and was there around the time Dougram first aired on TV. It was one of my first favorite robot shows. Loved the kits.
Took me years to figure out the story background, and many years after moving to the US, found a guy in Japan who helped me get as much Dougram stuff as he could. I compiled it on my first website I ever made while in college at www.dougram.com (if you can believe it that domain was available to register). But after a few years I got over it and let the domain expire.
There have been cooler and most realistic robot designs since, but there is something about Dougram I just love. Kind of has a WWII with robots feel to it.
The guys above clearly know Dougram, but I think alot of us Battletech fans only know the name and some of the designations because we did just enough research to know where the designs came from.
That's about how far my knowledge goes anyway. I know just enough about Dougram, Crusher Joe, etc to use them as search terms on ebay and Japanese hobby shops.
Yeah I LOVED Crusher Joe back in the day too. You wouldn't believe how cheap many of those kits were back then. I could buy a typical Crusher Joe kit for less than $1. Same with the 1/200 Macross Pitaban kits (which they also used for Battletech), which I remember finding at the displays at the checkout counters at the grocery store next to the candy and gum. They were also super cheap. Also LOVED the Morinaga model kits with the candy. I have an impressive collection of those.
These kits were so plentiful and cheap that I took them for granted, and set many on fire, blew up with fireworks, or shot with BB guns depending what phase I was going thru. It wasnt until I moved back to the US and reality hit me that I couldnt just go and buy these anymore. After years of hitting every comic book or specialty shop in every city I went to in the US, or found an odd distributor (20th Century Imports who supplied FASA with their Battletech kits), was I able to start finding a couple here and there. My first purchases on Ebay back in 2000 were the 1/144 Dougram kits that I couldnt believe were listed. After a couple of decades of collecting small 80s kits from Macross, Dougram, Votoms, Diaclone, Gundam, Ideon, Crusher Joe, Yamato, Xabungle, Lensman, and many other random robot/sci-fi series, even my contacts in Japan are impressed with my collection, as they say these older kits are now considered premium items in Japan, and seem to be easier to find in the US now. Crazy.
I figured everyone knew what Gundam was, or Macross, but not the older stuff.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: I had Dougram and the green guy. In my head canon version of the Transformers they were human mechs made to match the invaders from Cybertron.
That's awesome.
Then the designs showed up in a DC comic called Robotech Defenders.
Yeah I remember that terrible comic.
Some of the model kits were imported and available from Monogram.
Yeah I had a few of those. Some I actually bought at a Toys R Us in Singapore, which was odd. Same with the Testors versions of the Nichimo Macross Pitaban kits. Outside of the Toys R Us in Singapore they were selling the original Japanese kits, yet inside, they had these US versions. Looking back, so weird.
It looks like Kaiyodo is reissuing their Revoltech Legion toy with a spiffy new paintjob that's meant to make it look like the prop/costume used in the Gamera movies. Why hasn't anyone ever used this thing in their Tyranid armies?
That would put his height at around 12.5 centimeters or around 4.9 inches. It's a decent size. Certainly big enough to be a Monstrous Creature, if nothing else.
Barzam wrote: It looks like Kaiyodo is reissuing their Revoltech Legion toy with a spiffy new paintjob that's meant to make it look like the prop/costume used in the Gamera movies.
Why hasn't anyone ever used this thing in their Tyranid armies?
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It is awesome that there is a Revoltech Legion at all. I totally missed that this existed at all.
As for why not?
1. Hardly anybody knows about Gamera compared to Gojira
2. Legion was a 1-shot enemy; it's like wondering why people don't use Orga as a Dark Eldar something...
3. It's the main-in-rubber-suit Kaiju version
4. It's just as expensive (in the US), but harder to find.
To be honest, if I'm buying premium action figures, I'd be increasing the number of dudes in my 1/6 collection.
They look like some of the candy kits that were released. Considering that those kits have been in TRU for a couple years now, haven't moved beyond the first assortment, and there's been zero support for the line, I think it's safe to say we'll never see any of the later releases in the US. Typical Bandai. They have a good, popular product, but have no clue how to market it outside of Japan. So, they half ass it, give it no support, and then they're shocked when it doesn't take off.
Barzam wrote: It looks like Kaiyodo is reissuing their Revoltech Legion toy with a spiffy new paintjob that's meant to make it look like the prop/costume used in the Gamera movies.
Why hasn't anyone ever used this thing in their Tyranid armies?
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It is awesome that there is a Revoltech Legion at all. I totally missed that this existed at all.
As for why not?
1. Hardly anybody knows about Gamera compared to Gojira
2. Legion was a 1-shot enemy; it's like wondering why people don't use Orga as a Dark Eldar something...
3. It's the main-in-rubber-suit Kaiju version
4. It's just as expensive (in the US), but harder to find.
As for point 1?
Maybe 'general populace' no, but 'target demo'?
Not only 'yes' but 'hell yes!'
I actually prefer Gamera to Godzilla, in many cases!
Thanks for the heads up on the Legion Revoltech too!
Geez, I completely forgot about Orga. That thing left so little impression on me. Now Gyaos, he'd be a pretty cool Deldar beast. He just so happens to also have a Revoltech, though he hasn't been reissued. I should probably note, the Legion Revoltech comes with accessories! He comes with an in-scale mini flying Gamera as well as seven tiny Soldier Legion monsters.
Coming back to Pacific Rim, we now have a price, scale, release date, and promo photos for Cherno Alpha!
Release: December 2016
Price: 7,800 yen MSRP (it's 6861 on HLJ and 6390 on Amiami)
Scale: 1/350
Here's the official English description of the kit from Max Factory
PLAMAX JG-01: Cherno Alpha
Drift with the Mark-1 Jaeger ‘Cherno Alpha’!
From the science fiction monster film that took the world by storm ‘Pacific Rim’ come 1/350th scale plastic model kits of the Jaeger – huge robotic weapons that are mankind’s last line of defense against the Kaiju! The first in the series is the Russian Mark-1 Jaeger with a unique, clunky appearance that became hugely popular – the Cherno Alpha!
The characteristic design of the Jaeger has been converted into a plastic model kit using 3DCG data from the film for a faithful, detailed rendition of the original for fans to build for themselves. The kit is separated by color and makes use of snap-kit parts for easy assembly, with decals included to bring out the atmosphere of the film even more. The finished model also has a very satisfying size that is sure to stand out in any collection!
An optional part with the arm extended for a punch is included, and the kit also comes with an LED lighting unit to recreate the memorable lit-up appearance from the night scenes of the film. Experience the incredible presence of the Cherno Alpha as you build it with your own two hands!
I never knew Cherno Alpha had actual, functional hands. Hopefully this turns out to be successful and we get more than just Cherno Alpha and Gypsy Danger. I'm hoping for Tacit Ronin, Romeo Blue, and Horizon Brave.
So thanks to this thread I started looking around for gunpla and found a local place that sells it. I've bought 6 kits over the last few months and my miniature purchases have gone down to zero. They're just better kits.
I'm working through my miniatures backlog like never before and have built and weathered half my gunpla so far. I wanted to try out this idea of not painting them and sanding, weathering and varnishing the bare plastic to make it look like it's not plastic anymore. So far I think it's working.
The dark green still looks plasticy, so I'll have to do something about that.
I know it's from Iron Blooded Orphans, only because I have the 1/100 of it. Not sure what scale that one is, but the 1/100 has an extra set of armor and is one thick mobile suit.
That's what I've been doing to my gunpla. Weather with paint and pigments on bare plastic, paint in any parts where stickers go in lieu of them, and put a coat of matte varnish on top. Should kill the shine and protect the model.
I went through the same thing, BTW - once I started getting gunpla, my wargaming purchases dropped to zero. Even with postage from Japan or Hong Kong, they end up costing less than the cheapest 40K vehicles or AoS troop boxes. Heck, they're less than the standard blister nowadays!
usernamesareannoying wrote:that guy is cool. what series is he from?
I don't think that the green looks bad. what have you done to him so far?
That's the HG 1/144 Iron Blooded Orphans Gusion.
So far he got lightly sanded with 1500 grit sand paper to remove the plastic sheen that injection kits have. Then he got oil washed and some oil streaking with white was done to most of him. Then once that was dry, he got a layer of satin varnish. Maybe something like Testors Dullcote would knock back the last of the sheen. Maybe I think it still looks like plastic because I've seen it all the way through, but it's really not that bad.
Here's a HG 1/144 IBO Graze that got a similar treatment. I think it looks less plastic like (especially the gun). The grey did get some edge drybrushing on that one.
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Maybe I need to make the edges on the gusion brighter.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Very nice, how big?
13cm. Maybe a bit less because of how he needs to squat a bit to stand well. 1/144 of his in fiction height of 18 metres would be 12.5 cm.
those are great.
I thought that's what he was but wasn't sure. I just finished that series too... lol
I really like what you've done. the only thing that I think would make them look a little better would be something to break up all of the darn grey of the gun. maybe a light wash?
-DE- wrote: That's what I've been doing to my gunpla. Weather with paint and pigments on bare plastic, paint in any parts where stickers go in lieu of them, and put a coat of matte varnish on top. Should kill the shine and protect the model.
I went through the same thing, BTW - once I started getting gunpla, my wargaming purchases dropped to zero. Even with postage from Japan or Hong Kong, they end up costing less than the cheapest 40K vehicles or AoS troop boxes. Heck, they're less than the standard blister nowadays!
I just got a revive version of the HG RX-78-2 and it was like $14. I don't know what you can get from GW for that. The Deathwatch Chaplain is $30. There's just no comparison.
The weathering on the coloured bare plastic definitely works. I think I just need to go totally matte with my final varnish to get the look I really want. Satin is still leaving a bit of a sheen.
My friends and I have started playing a Gunpla Battles type game that's a mash up of X-Wing and SuperSystem (a small press super heroes miniature game). We don't have a rules document yet, just a note book full of ideas we've tried so far.
The posing on the RX-78-2 Revive is so good. I'm not sure it has all that much appeal for those looking for something for 40k though as it is the iconic gundam.
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I have a rule that I don't buy new miniatures for a project/army until everything for it is done, but I've been completing projects and just not buying more. Instead I've been getting these things. GW's kits barely stack up and I can't even really find myself considering getting some crappy PVC warjack from Privateer after working with these.
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usernamesareannoying wrote: those are great. I thought that's what he was but wasn't sure. I just finished that series too... lol
I really like what you've done. the only thing that I think would make them look a little better would be something to break up all of the darn grey of the gun. maybe a light wash?
Yeah. The gun needs something. For starters I should probably paint the casing ejector slot black. Starker shading and then maybe edge highlight the top of the gun. Maybe make the clip a darker grey as well.
I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but I'm really looking forward to the Gundam Type A from Iron Blooded Orphans that's supposed to come out in October.
frozenwastes wrote: I'm working through my miniatures backlog like never before and have built and weathered half my gunpla so far. I wanted to try out this idea of not painting them and sanding, weathering and varnishing the bare plastic to make it look like it's not plastic anymore. So far I think it's working.
The dark green still looks plasticy, so I'll have to do something about that.
He looks really good. I like the look of him.
He's shinier than one might like, so maybe dullcote?
Check out http://www.dalong.net/ , click the HG at the top and then further click to view the English names. The oldest models are at the top and the newest towards the bottom.
Overall I would say that one of the chunkier Zeon robots like the Z'Gok E http://hlj.com/product/BAN920464 makes for a good starting point. They've got more rounded shapes and aren't as typically anime like the Gundam-named robots usually are which makes them easier to convert satisfactorily. They've got much more of an old sci-fi robot vibe to them, though, particularly the Gogg. That may or may not be your cup of tea.
MG is a size grade up but those are meant to be modelling experiences so they've got a lot of budget for inner frames and other details that you don't necessarily care about if you're going to make gaming pieces out of them. That said they're still like a third of the cost of an official GW knight model. Finding a decent size fit can be a little tricky.
The really old plastic models that don't have joints and are supposed to be glued are still available, too. They've got an even more old-school style but are cheap as dirt so chopping up half a dozen of them shouldn't be a problem for someone used to dealing with GW.
What do you mean no joints? Gundam kits have always been articulated. Even the old cross section kits were articulated. Unless you mean before they were using polycaps?
Kodos, I would suggest looking at some of the lesser known kits. Seeing people stick spikes and skulls on what is clearly a Zeon MS bothers me. Look at using some of the lesser known Neo Zeon suits, like the Hamma Hamma. It's an older kit from Double Zeta, but it's huge, has an interesting design, and I think it's one people wouldn't be as familiar with. Some of the less popular series, like Reconguista and AGE have some interesting designs as well.
Barzam wrote: Kodos, I would suggest looking at some of the lesser known kits. Seeing people stick spikes and skulls on what is clearly a Zeon MS bothers me.
Look at using some of the lesser known Neo Zeon suits, like the Hamma Hamma. It's an older kit from Double Zeta, but it's huge, has an interesting design, and I think it's one people wouldn't be as familiar with. Some of the less popular series, like Reconguista and AGE have some interesting designs as well.
A number of Zeon MS start with spikes on them!
As for lesser known stuff, how about a Z'gok? Or a Zssa? Or maybe a Big Zam? Or my favorite... the Baund Doc!
I mean before they had serious action figure levels of articulation. The stuff that is closest to what most people here would think of as "plastic models".
I personally recommend the earliest Zeon suits because they're the closest in style to space marine power armour and aren't always so obviously designed for space. The Hamma Hamma may be obscure even by Gundam standards but it's filled with rocket engines. Unless you want something with jump jets that might make for too much stuff to modify.
Rosebuddy wrote: I personally recommend the earliest Zeon suits because they're the closest in style to space marine power armour and aren't always so obviously designed for space. The Hamma Hamma may be obscure even by Gundam standards but it's filled with rocket engines. Unless you want something with jump jets that might make for too much stuff to modify.
If it's a question of big shoulder pads, there's always the Quebley.
Something else to keep in mind is that the Quebly can be made to look an aweful lot like one of the mechs from Five Star Stories with some moderate modeling skills (no surprise considering who designed the Quebly)
Looking at these one easy way to change the look is to omit the head then mount a head-like cockpit on the chest. Fill the gap with a weapon or shrine.
The All Japan Model Show is going on right now in Japan. That means new kits! Expect some large pictures here, so I'm going to spoiler them so as not to grind your browser to a halt.
First off, Bandai is making a high-end action figure of the Dougram. It looks damn nice.
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It doesn't have a scale listed anywhere, but it's expected to be about 16cm tall.
Also in Dougram news, Max Factory is releasing the Big Foot in their Dougram kit line.
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They're also releasing the Maverick helicopter, which I've shown before, but they've also announced that they're doing the Bromry carrier truck.
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In other news, TakaraTomy is bringing back their 1/48 VOTOMS Actic Gear toyline (yay!). Three releases announced so far, which are Strike Dog (brand new), reissue of Berserga, and reissue of Marshy Dog. There's also lineart for a Berserga DT, which is the Desert Type seen in the Quent arc of the original series.
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And then there's Kotobukiya, always a favorite of mine. They are releasing a Mecha-Musume line called Megami Device. It's basically an expansion on the concept of their Frame Arms Girls and Konami's Busou Shinki toyline. Speaking of, Kotobukiya's also making Busou Shinki models. Probably of more interest to this community though would be the new Frame Arms kits. Here's five new ones!
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The three colored kits are due out soon. The one that looks like a dragon is Wyvern, and I believe that one is out sooner than the others. There's also a bunch of crazy weapon kits coming out, like a giant fist, huge guns, assault rifles, blades, etc. The usual stuff.
In Bandai news, there's not a ton of new stuff that I haven't linked to in this thread before. There's a new 1/100 Bawoo coming, an MGGM Sniper II, and a Metal Build F91. They also showed off a Gundam GP-03 Dendrobium for their Universal Unit candy toy series that was spun off from the Assault Kingdom series.
In non Gundam news from Bandai though, how would you like a model kit of Gao Gai Gar?
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I should mention, Gao Gai Gar has full combination and transformation abilities.
How about some Xabungle?
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It should be noted, both Xabungle and Walker Gallier will have the full transformation and combination gimmicks.
If those aren't to your liking, there's always the Megazord. Again, full transformation/combination gimmicks included.
Also in Dougram news, Max Factory is releasing the Big Foot in their Dougram kit line.
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I want this just so I can paint it like a classic House Steiner Battlemaster.
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Barzam wrote: Coming back to Pacific Rim, we now have a price, scale, release date, and promo photos for Cherno Alpha!
Release: December 2016
Price: 7,800 yen MSRP (it's 6861 on HLJ and 6390 on Amiami)
Scale: 1/350
Here's the official English description of the kit from Max Factory
PLAMAX JG-01: Cherno Alpha
Drift with the Mark-1 Jaeger ‘Cherno Alpha’!
From the science fiction monster film that took the world by storm ‘Pacific Rim’ come 1/350th scale plastic model kits of the Jaeger – huge robotic weapons that are mankind’s last line of defense against the Kaiju! The first in the series is the Russian Mark-1 Jaeger with a unique, clunky appearance that became hugely popular – the Cherno Alpha!
The characteristic design of the Jaeger has been converted into a plastic model kit using 3DCG data from the film for a faithful, detailed rendition of the original for fans to build for themselves. The kit is separated by color and makes use of snap-kit parts for easy assembly, with decals included to bring out the atmosphere of the film even more. The finished model also has a very satisfying size that is sure to stand out in any collection!
An optional part with the arm extended for a punch is included, and the kit also comes with an LED lighting unit to recreate the memorable lit-up appearance from the night scenes of the film. Experience the incredible presence of the Cherno Alpha as you build it with your own two hands!
I never knew Cherno Alpha had actual, functional hands. Hopefully this turns out to be successful and we get more than just Cherno Alpha and Gypsy Danger. I'm hoping for Tacit Ronin, Romeo Blue, and Horizon Brave.
Going to be hard not to buy like.... six of these. Just because.
Hopefully, they make some Kaiju kits too! That would be unreal. I would make dioramas for sure, because so much of that movie happens in the water, it would be very fun.
Well, you're in luck, Kotobukiya released a couple kits of the Gunhed. It even transforms.
Als from the All Japan Model and Hobby Show, Kotobukiya appears to have a new toyline coming out. It's been a long time since Kotobukiya made some proper toys. Armored Core and Front Mission toys were what pretty much brought them out of garage kit company status and into the mainstream.
This new line is called Hexa Gear. It appears to be a 1/24 scale line with action figures for the humans and modular "block" kits for their mecha and vehicles. The vehicles remind me somewhat of the ZOIDS Blox series or Machine Robot Mugenbine. Here's some pics of the prototypes.
Rayblade Impulse
Volt Rex
Motor Punisher
Block Buster
one of the figures, Armor Type: Pawn A1 (large image)
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Para-Pawn Sentinel (large image)
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Light Armor Type, Rose (large image)
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And there was concept art!
Large image of a planned bipedal mech
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This one gives a good idea of how the mecha will work.
I know what I'm getting next May. I've been waiting a long time for that Battlemaster... if only the Wolverine was the same size size than the Shadow Hawk :( (I know that FASA were the ones that messed the scale)
Barzam wrote: Als from the All Japan Model and Hobby Show, Kotobukiya appears to have a new toyline coming out. It's been a long time since Kotobukiya made some proper toys. Armored Core and Front Mission toys were what pretty much brought them out of garage kit company status and into the mainstream.
This new line is called Hexa Gear. It appears to be a 1/24 scale line with action figures for the humans and modular "block" kits for their mecha and vehicles. The vehicles remind me somewhat of the ZOIDS Blox series or Machine Robot Mugenbine. Here's some pics of the prototypes.
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Rayblade Impulse
Volt Rex
Motor Punisher
Block Buster
one of the figures, Armor Type: Pawn A1 (large image)
Para-Pawn Sentinel (large image)
Light Armor Type, Rose (large image)
And there was concept art!
Large image of a planned bipedal mech
This one gives a good idea of how the mecha will work.
I'm going to wait for finished product shots, but for now I'm blown away. When it comes to proprietary designs, Koto seldom dissapoints! Furthermore - do these look to be reasonably customizable or am I misconstruing the last picture?
I'm also glad it's an action figure line, as I've been getting more into them lately at the expense of construction kits (the older one grows, the scarcer the time becomes!). They also seem to get discounted heavily quite often, making them not that pricey to get, although RRPs are eye-watering.
Depends on what you consider the right scale. If it follows the other Max Factory Dougram models it will be about 6" tall. Far too small to use with 28mm Battletech models. But large enough for a generic 28mm Mech.
The hip joints would be the weakest point on the At-At. Bazooka guy actually has a good chance of disabling it if he can get in that close. It's actually a very poor design choice to have the knees and hips so exposed. That's why most Mobile Suits have skirt armor and such pronounced armor around their knees and ankles.
Barzam wrote: The hip joints would be the weakest point on the At-At. Bazooka guy actually has a good chance of disabling it if he can get in that close. It's actually a very poor design choice to have the knees and hips so exposed. That's why most Mobile Suits have skirt armor and such pronounced armor around their knees and ankles.
And here I thought that was because they were trying to emulate Samurai armour...
Well, that too. But, the skirts do actually serve a functional purpose in protecting one of the weakest points on a giant robot. One of Kazuhisa Kondo's more recent Gundam manga, Operation Troy, I think depicts a team of Federation tank hunters disabling a Zaku with just a rocket launcher. They set up an amush and basically fire the rocket right up into the skirt armor. A single anti-tank rocket blew the whole hip assembly apart and tappled the Zaku. The Rebellion probably could have downed the AT-ATs if they could got troops under them.
Barzam wrote: Well, that too. But, the skirts do actually serve a functional purpose in protecting one of the weakest points on a giant robot. One of Kazuhisa Kondo's more recent Gundam manga, Operation Troy, I think depicts a team of Federation tank hunters disabling a Zaku with just a rocket launcher. They set up an amush and basically fire the rocket right up into the skirt armor. A single anti-tank rocket blew the whole hip assembly apart and tappled the Zaku. The Rebellion probably could have downed the AT-ATs if they could got troops under them.
Which makes quite a few assumptions about the power of hand-held weapons vs. the toughness of superheavy vehicle armor in the Star Wars Universe. The joints may be exposed because the material of the joints themselves might just be THAT tough.
On the other hand, if the Rebels had brought some X- and Y-wings over for air support instead of those glorified skimmers, I expect a couple proton torpedoes would have done the trick...
Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade. That raises a lot of questions if ship guns have trouble penetrating armor that a handheld weapon can cut. And that's not even Jedi superpowers at work, anyone can apparently just use a lightsaber to chop things.
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade. That raises a lot of questions if ship guns have trouble penetrating armor that a handheld weapon can cut. And that's not even Jedi superpowers at work, anyone can apparently just use a lightsaber to chop things.
Luke was cutting through the bottom plate of the AT-AT [the thinnest armour by far for the average armoured vehicle] and used a thermal detonator, not a grenade, which has been established as causes a tiny nuclear fusion blast usually capable of atomising anything within 5 metres of the epicentre. An explosion like that hitting the fuel or ammunition would easily knock out such a vehicle.
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade.
Luke was cutting through the bottom plate of the AT-AT [the thinnest armour by far for the average armoured vehicle] and used a thermal detonator, not a grenade, which has been established as causes a tiny nuclear fusion blast usually capable of atomising anything within 5 metres of the epicentre. An explosion like that hitting the fuel or ammunition would easily knock out such a vehicle.
Except, this is a super-tall walking tank. I think the bottom can't be that thin if it towers over the enemy, such that they have to shoot UP at the belly plate...
It's still the equivalent of a hand grenade in size and delivery mechanism. They should be able to fire much stronger things out of larger vehicle-based weapons.
TheWaspinator wrote: It's still the equivalent of a hand grenade in size and delivery mechanism. They should be able to fire much stronger things out of larger vehicle-based weapons.
A walking tank designed by the same people whose terror weapon's fatal flaw was its exhaust port? Weak belly armor and serious threats from hand weapons sound about par for the course. Bet that design team was fired...into space.
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade. That raises a lot of questions if ship guns have trouble penetrating armor that a handheld weapon can cut. And that's not even Jedi superpowers at work, anyone can apparently just use a lightsaber to chop things.
I thought the AT-AT had a shield generator, which is why it's difficult to kill with long range weapons, despite being a huge target. Not sure, though.
In any case - this is exactly why armour should always be escorted by infantry. You don't want any sneaky dudes crawling up from behind and shoving a satchel charge up the tailpipe. Or a lightsaber.
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade. That raises a lot of questions if ship guns have trouble penetrating armor that a handheld weapon can cut. And that's not even Jedi superpowers at work, anyone can apparently just use a lightsaber to chop things.
I thought the AT-AT had a shield generator, which is why it's difficult to kill with long range weapons, despite being a huge target. Not sure, though.
In any case - this is exactly why armour should always be escorted by infantry. You don't want any sneaky dudes crawling up from behind and shoving a satchel charge up the tailpipe. Or a lightsaber.
Me too, that's why the rebels were about to blow them up once they were down but not when they were walking-
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade.
Luke was cutting through the bottom plate of the AT-AT [the thinnest armour by far for the average armoured vehicle] and used a thermal detonator, not a grenade, which has been established as causes a tiny nuclear fusion blast usually capable of atomising anything within 5 metres of the epicentre. An explosion like that hitting the fuel or ammunition would easily knock out such a vehicle.
Except, this is a super-tall walking tank. I think the bottom can't be that thin if it towers over the enemy, such that they have to shoot UP at the belly plate...
It's got a 40 man transport capacity and 4 huge stompy legs protecting the bottom plate. I think that's enough to protect that part from any attackers more conspicuous than a single man who they thought they'd stomped a minute ago.
One of the few cases where the "Drive me closer" meme would actually be appropriate. I could totally see a Gunhed punching Baneblades and flipping over Russes.
TheWaspinator wrote: Complicating the question of AT-AT durability is Luke killing one with a lightsaber and a hand grenade.
Luke was cutting through the bottom plate of the AT-AT [the thinnest armour by far for the average armoured vehicle] and used a thermal detonator, not a grenade, which has been established as causes a tiny nuclear fusion blast usually capable of atomising anything within 5 metres of the epicentre. An explosion like that hitting the fuel or ammunition would easily knock out such a vehicle.
Except, this is a super-tall walking tank. I think the bottom can't be that thin if it towers over the enemy, such that they have to shoot UP at the belly plate...
Watch the scene again. Luke makes one cut, then a hatch pops open. He wasn't cutting through the belly armor, he was cutting the lock on a hatch.
From there, it's 'grenade through the hatch of a tank' time. Only with a mini-nuke.
I got one of the new Revell AT-ACTs and I'm pretty happy with it. It's in a weird tiny scale (about 1/98 if my math is right), but is a pretty good size for potential gaming use (about 8 inches tall depending on leg pose).
1/100 is probably the best scale for a large sci-fi walker, as that puts it into the range of 15/18mm figures, which are certainly the second most popular figures for gaming. (after 32/28/25mm of course)
I think that you would have trouble finding a Flames of War unit that would be a good choice for it to count as, though.
But yeah, as I was saying, it's at a pretty reasonably good size for "large vehicle that can fit onto a gaming table". If you ignore the question of whether 40K figures could fit inside the head, it might work as a weird-looking knight or something.
I've got a couple of them. The website that you linked to says the figures are about 6cm tall. I've just measured a Gundam one and it's approx. 4.5cm or 2 7/8" tall. They're considerably less massive than a Space Marine, or even a plastic Cadian, though some of the chunkier or non-humanoid figures might be suitable if you disregard the intended scale.
The big drawback, though, is that they're a blind purchase item.
Apparently there's a Gunpla Expo going on right now in Japan. Lots of new kits shown off, like an HGUC Efreet, more Thunderbolt kits, mysterious new Mobile Suits that look vaguely like the designs from Double-Fake, potentially a 1/100 Hamma Hamma, some kind of new High Grade line starting with a Zeta Gundam, but the most important thing of all is this.
As for an orca proxy, there was a drop-ship type vehicle being previewed in the Infinity thread that had sort-of Tau-esque aesthetics, but I can't find the page it was on.
A quick search on the internet indicates that this isn't the first time that a Gundam has been released in 7-11 colors. The first appears to have been an RX-78, which was made available back in 2011. And an RX-93 Nu Gundam in the same livery appeared in 2014.
Barzam wrote: Apparently there's a Gunpla Expo going on right now in Japan. Lots of new kits shown off, like an HGUC Efreet, more Thunderbolt kits, mysterious new Mobile Suits that look vaguely like the designs from Double-Fake, potentially a 1/100 Hamma Hamma, some kind of new High Grade line starting with a Zeta Gundam, but the most important thing of all is this.
IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!!!!!
You forgot the most important part, which line is it from, HG or Re-100?
I think it's very close to a Rhino / Chimera in size.
Those are pretty sweet.. though I think if we're trying to keep the scale similar to the movie I think they might be closer to 15mm.. If we're ignoring the source material and just treating them as generic APCs then yeah.. That said.. I play 15mm.. sooo
I think it's very close to a Rhino / Chimera in size.
Those are pretty sweet.. though I think if we're trying to keep the scale similar to the movie I think they might be closer to 15mm.. If we're ignoring the source material and just treating them as generic APCs then yeah.. That said.. I play 15mm.. sooo
The APC is pretty big. At least as big as a Chimera or Rhino (3" wide x 5" long)!
Get your Colonial Marines ready to roll out with this all-new Minimates-scale mini-vehicle of the Armored Personnel Carrier from Aliens! Based on the classic 1986 movie, this approximately 7" APC vehicle seats five Marines, and includes an exclusive Minimates mini-figure of Lt. Gorman, with an alternate bandaged head. The APC has a roof that opens up so you can control the bug hunt from the command center, plus a real sliding door, rolling wheels, moving cannon and a rack of assault rifles in the back for missions! Packaged on a full-color blister card.
That approx 7" is probably with the gun stowed for travelling. It's definitely 40k scale.
Also, I wish my Toys-R-Us was cool enough to carry the Aliens stuff, I'd like to get that for Christmas (my family is luddites, and buys nothing online). Unfortunately, our local Walmart has a bigger toy selection than the local Toys-R-Us...
I love and hate this thread so much... i love the mecha and the hlj links.... then i hate it when its been 5 hours like 2am and im still lost in the glory that is hlj...plus my wallet (aka the boss aka she who must be obeyed) hates hlj also
TheWaspinator wrote: I'm ordering one, but don't have it yet so can't give my own size impression. The eBay auction does give us these pics, though:
Most Robogear and Tehnolog model kits is about this size, they are designed to be kid-grabbable so all the kits have similar dimensions, including the flyers. About Rhino/Dreadknight size, maybe. I don't think I have seen anything bigger from them. The figures they have are mostly 1/48 or 1/32, so about 1.5-2 times the 40k scale. 40mm figures, maybe.
I did an ork buggy from a Robogear buggy, and the cockpit was about 1.5x the Ork model size. Couldn't quite fit two Orks side by side. The Robogear models are a bit 'chibi', so they have relatively big cockpit to fit the 1/48 guy and small wings/legs/engines/tracks etc.
I think it's very close to a Rhino / Chimera in size.
Beat me to it! Yes, these are perfect. Bigger than rhino, equal to a raider. Excellent for a Colonial Marines (think space marine scout models) converted army and/or AVP Prodos game!
3" at turret top, 3.5" wide, 7.75" long A land raider is about 7" long, almost 4" wide, and nearly 3" tall..., so this apc is just about as tall and wide as a raider, and longer. Could stand in as a LR.
Could run it as a LEGION SICARAN BATTLE TANK or MKIIB LAND RAIDER easily....
I think it's very close to a Rhino / Chimera in size.
Those are pretty sweet.. though I think if we're trying to keep the scale similar to the movie I think they might be closer to 15mm.. If we're ignoring the source material and just treating them as generic APCs then yeah.. That said.. I play 15mm.. sooo
The APC is pretty big. At least as big as a Chimera or Rhino (3" wide x 5" long)!
Get your Colonial Marines ready to roll out with this all-new Minimates-scale mini-vehicle of the Armored Personnel Carrier from Aliens! Based on the classic 1986 movie, this approximately 7" APC vehicle seats five Marines, and includes an exclusive Minimates mini-figure of Lt. Gorman, with an alternate bandaged head. The APC has a roof that opens up so you can control the bug hunt from the command center, plus a real sliding door, rolling wheels, moving cannon and a rack of assault rifles in the back for missions! Packaged on a full-color blister card.
That approx 7" is probably with the gun stowed for travelling. It's definitely 40k scale.
For some reason I kept thinking the minimate people were lego people sized.. I forgot they're actually pretty big.
oh .. I haven't gotten a Goliath yet, but they look kinda big in the pics.. maybe it would work as one of those? Or else maybe something like a land raider?
crapgame70 wrote: I picked up two of the Aliens APCs from Toys R Us. Trying to figure out what they could 'Count as' since they are quite a bit larger then a Chimera
crapgame70 wrote: I picked up two of the Aliens APCs from Toys R Us. Trying to figure out what they could 'Count as' since they are quite a bit larger then a Chimera
Crassus armored transport!
And I still want three, damn Pacific Ocean!
M.
I was looking at those AT ATs for 15mm gaming.
The old Kenner AT-ATs (the toys) are about the right height for 28mm gaming funny enough (if I remember correctly anyway)
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the Revell Star Wars stuff I've gotten so far (U-Wing, AT-ACT, Imperial Star Destroyer, Poe's X-Wing). They've apparently got a bigger AT-AT I've been meaning to track down. I also want one of their Millennium Falcons, not sure which version I want since they've made several.
For starters the Gamirasu, a nice curved ship with prominent torpedo tubes, could be a cruiser for the Imperials, Space Marines, Tau or Chaos with minimal work.
The Domerasu III is even more generic, a box ship with a pointy prow, perfect for an Imperial fleet.
But the Deusura II is the real gem, a sleek ship covered with antenas and winglets that look like spikes. I can see this as a chaos flag ship.
And finally a Macross Delta, looks all sorts of useful next to my Space Fleet ships.
Funny you bring up the Star Blazers/Battleship Yamato ships, I just bought a bunch of them in the hopes of putting together a game, contemplating using the BFG rules...
The problem with BFG is it's rather counter intensive with all the counters now OOP. You can find a PDF of them easily enough but then have to print then glue to card and cut out.
Or find them on ebay.
It's a good game but it might be worth looking at Drop Fleet, Firestorm Armada or Star Wars Armada.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: The problem with BFG is it's rather counter intensive with all the counters now OOP. You can find a PDF of them easily enough but then have to print then glue to card and cut out.
Or find them on ebay.
It's a good game but it might be worth looking at Drop Fleet, Firestorm Armada or Star Wars Armada.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: The problem with BFG is it's rather counter intensive with all the counters now OOP. You can find a PDF of them easily enough but then have to print then glue to card and cut out.
Or find them on ebay.
It's a good game but it might be worth looking at Drop Fleet, Firestorm Armada or Star Wars Armada.
In any case they are really fun models.
I wonder who gave you that idea
Just dropped $20 on ships and then $20 on second hand tokens
Those who were looking for a suitable mecha kit to use as the basis for an alternative chaos knight, we have a new contender, the "Helmwige": http://hlj.com/product/bann12962.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I think Ganesha games, the guys that do the Song of Blades & Heroes games, are supposed to be doing a ship vs ship combat game in the near future.
That game has literally been in development/play testing for years at this point. I'll be happy when it finally comes out, but Andrea is still excited about releasing Rogue Stars, and I wouldn't be suprised to see a Rogue Stars supplement before the starship battles game ever gets finished.
I'm sure someone on here may find this of interest.
Kaiyodo is making 1/35 scale capsule toy model kits of various Maschinen Krieger power armors. If the picture loaded properly, you should see an assembled and unassembled AFS suit. The lineup will also include the SAFS power armor and the Fireball power armor. They come in drab green, desert tan, clear, and florescent pink.
Here's the three suits in green
With a bit of work filling holes and some paint, they look pretty nice.
All pics shamelessly stolen from Hobby Search. You can get a set of 12 from them for 5,000 yen or you can get them from HLJ for 4,800 yen.
Mostly I like this for terrain.. if you want a sub pen or similarly themed table. Makes me want to get that mostly submerged u-boat I saw a while back (can't remember where now) and go for it.
If the dimensions provided are correct it looks like it's about 8 1/4" long.
Barzam wrote: I'm sure someone on here may find this of interest.
Spoiler:
Kaiyodo is making 1/35 scale capsule toy model kits of various Maschinen Krieger power armors. If the picture loaded properly, you should see an assembled and unassembled AFS suit. The lineup will also include the SAFS power armor and the Fireball power armor. They come in drab green, desert tan, clear, and florescent pink.
Here's the three suits in green
With a bit of work filling holes and some paint, they look pretty nice.
All pics shamelessly stolen from Hobby Search. You can get a set of 12 from them for 5,000 yen or you can get them from HLJ for 4,800 yen.
I Like MachinenKrieger but their kits are not cheap and mostly too big, from Kaiyodo means that will be reasonably priced
Barzam wrote: I'm sure someone on here may find this of interest.
Spoiler:
Kaiyodo is making 1/35 scale capsule toy model kits of various Maschinen Krieger power armors. If the picture loaded properly, you should see an assembled and unassembled AFS suit. The lineup will also include the SAFS power armor and the Fireball power armor. They come in drab green, desert tan, clear, and florescent pink.
Here's the three suits in green
With a bit of work filling holes and some paint, they look pretty nice.
All pics shamelessly stolen from Hobby Search. You can get a set of 12 from them for 5,000 yen or you can get them from HLJ for 4,800 yen.
I Like MachinenKrieger but their kits are not cheap and mostly too big, from Kaiyodo means that will be reasonably priced
I dunno, the tracks look different from the Wave one. I know there was an unlicensed Chinese plastic kit, so that could be what's in your pic, JoeRugby.
Speaking of the Wave kit, when was that released before? I'd never heard about them actually releasing a Metal Slug model.
The remake catches a lot of hate.. but if you separate it from the nostalgia it's a good sci-fi movie. It's drastically different from the original though.. so don't expect to see the 80s script with Iron Man style effects.
EDIT: Before I catch grief.. when I say "good" I mean that.. not great or exceptional, but good. It has a high production value, decent acting, and really nice effects. If you're a fan of sci-fi, you'll likely enjoy it if you can remove it from the original.
I bought one or two of each of those same kits from the same seller about 3 years ago. Though they're from the same company "Tehnolog" I don't think they've ever been in "Robogear" packaging, they seller just put that in the subject line.
They're not bad kits at all, but they're noticably smaller than other robogear kits, mostly because of the stunty legs and slightly Chibi'ish proportions. I had considered mixing the bodies with robogear legs but never got around to it.
The pictures make them seem a smidge bigger than they are in real life. Still, they might be good stand-ins for sentinels or similar vehicles in terms of width and length if not height.
Are you guys aware of Bandai's Minipla line? They're trading kits you can pick up at grocery stores or drug stores in Japan. For a while, it was just Super Sentai kits Bandai was doing, but of late they've been branching out into other properties. The minipla kits are usually pretty cheap and, in case of the Sentai stuff, usually better articulated and proportioned than the big, expensive toys. So, recently, Bandai produced a line based on the anime series Xabungle, which included the Xabungle itself (which transformed/combined) as well as two of the smaller support mechs. The quality looked really good, with a high degree of articulation, gimmicks, and parts mostly molded in the final colors. Well, they've produced another assortment since the first Xabungle one (a second Xabungle set with the hero's other mech and some baddie mechs) and soon they'll be releasing a third series of Gao-Gai-Gar, which has complete transformation and combination gimmicks retained, not to mention it looks really good. They also have a Power Rangers Megazord coming in the near future.
Now, where am I going with this? Today Bandai revealed their next property that will receive the Minipla treatment, Panzer World Galient. You may not be familiar with Galient, but there's a high likelihood you've seen some of the mecha before. The series was a pseudo sci-fantasy (turned out to actually be post-apocalyptic... to a degree) very similar to the 90's anime Escaflowne. The show was about a young prince on a quest for revenge against an evil ruler who murdered his family and destroyed his country. Along the way, he ends up operating a giant robot knight and builds a rebellion to overthrow the evil ruler. There's also people from space who show up and try to influence things along the way.
Anyway, Bandai announced that they're making kits of the Galient itself based on the TV show design
which retains its transformation/combination gimmick
the OVA Galient (which doesn't transform)
and the things that will probably be of most interest to you guys, two versions of the TV style Promaxis, a centaur robot
I'm betting those Promaxii will be of some interest to you guys that still play Epic or other small scaled versions of 40k.
This is a real nostalgia trip for me though because when I was a kid, I used to have some of the Galient kits. Way back in the dark days before the internet, I had no clue what this series was. Why were there giant robot knights? Why did one have the lower body of a snake? I used to try and imagine what the setting and story were based on the box art. It wasn't until about a year or two ago that I actually was able to finally see the show. Thankfully, I actually enjoyed it. So, I'm absolutely going to have to get these. I suspect we may get a second series of these, too since there's some pretty iconic robots from the series they didn't do with this assortment, like the Zawell or the Wingall.
Shame it's the crappy post-Halo 4 designs, but a model Pelican is something I need badly enough to overlook that (though the bird itself isn't too bad, it's the so-called "SPARTANs" crewing the Warthog and the Wraith design that annoy me).
There's no pics, but the representatives for Bluefin announced today at New York Toy Fair that Bandai picked up the license to make merchandise for Pacific Rim 2. That's Bandai Japan, that picked it up specifically. They said that they have plans to release die-cast chogokin toys of the Jaegers as well as plastic models. So, if the Max Factory Plamax kits for the first movie are too rich for you, Bandai apparently will have you covered.
Barzam wrote: There's no pics, but the representatives for Bluefin announced today at New York Toy Fair that Bandai picked up the license to make merchandise for Pacific Rim 2. That's Bandai Japan, that picked it up specifically. They said that they have plans to release die-cast chogokin toys of the Jaegers as well as plastic models. So, if the Max Factory Plamax kits for the first movie are too rich for you, Bandai apparently will have you covered.
Ohh shiii, that is definitely interesting news. Let's hope they make both big and small models.
It's not just Toy Fair this weekend. It's also Winter Wonderfest in Japan! That means new kits on the horizon! Let's see what Kotobukiya has in store for us in 2017!
two 1/72 scaled Phantasy Star Online 2 mecha!
Raftclans from Super Robot Wars (it's been a while since we had SRW kits announced)
new Frame Arms!
(we've seen this one before, but only in greyscale prototype form)
new non-scale mecha in their Modelling Support Goods line.
this transforms as well.
crazy Hexa Gear thing
Stuff I didn't post pics of include a continuation of the Frame Arms Girls, more of the Megami Device girl kits, colored production samples and greyscale samples of the Hexa Gear toys, Crossover Frame Arms Girls that combine the girls with licensed properties like Gao-Gai-Gar, and another Modelling Support Goods vehicle kit similar to that container truck, except it's a motorcycle scaled to the Frame Arms Girls.
Does anyone have any further details about those phantasy star online mecha? I've only been able to find pictures of it here and one on some mecha blog
Gomezaddams wrote: Does anyone have any further details about those phantasy star online mecha? I've only been able to find pictures of it here and one on some mecha blog
The mecha is something like maybe 5" tall and I think the front opens if you want to do some kind of scenario to get a pilot to it. I haven't unboxed mine and haven't unpacked my measuring tape so the size is a guestimate.
I can do a scale shot when we're further along with unpacking. I really have to focus on that as I am behind on my client work and one of the rulebooks I'm doing art on is supposed to be ready by mid-April.. Still have a few rooms to go.
I'll try to get it next to some GW, Reaper, Infinity, etc.. assuming I've found those things by that time.
Here's a quick shot.. these are the only miniatures I have on hand as the others are still not unpacked.
I also didn't mention I have a different one (there are a few in the lineup).
Two new Iron Blooded Orphan kits have been announced, for those interested.
Gundam Astaroth Rinascimento
Gundam Dantalion
Dantalion has a backpack that unfolds into a pair of giant arms. Neat.
We also have official pics of Bandai's Panzer World Galient models.
TV style
OVA style
Talk about annoying though. Aside from the Xabungle itself, all of the Super Mini-pla kits have been almost impossible to order. Neither Ami Ami nor HLJ have them in stock. No Walker Gallier, No Gao-Gai-Gar, no Megazord, and no Ideon. To make matters worse, as far as I can tell, preorders for Galient went up today and they're already closed. Dammit! And, to add insult to injury, both Promaxis kits are online only purchases, so they're not available anywhere outside of Japan. Double dammit!!
Here's the two Promaxis kits, for those interested.
Always been a big fan of centaur mechs. Those ones look idea for a oil gunk wash directly onto the plastic and then some detail painting and then a good coat of varnish followed by some dullcote.
Barzam wrote: Two new Iron Blooded Orphan kits have been announced, for those interested.
Talk about annoying though. Aside from the Xabungle itself, all of the Super Mini-pla kits have been almost impossible to order. Neither Ami Ami nor HLJ have them in stock. No Walker Gallier, No Gao-Gai-Gar, no Megazord, and no Ideon. To make matters worse, as far as I can tell, preorders for Galient went up today and they're already closed. Dammit! And, to add insult to injury, both Promaxis kits are online only purchases, so they're not available anywhere outside of Japan. Double dammit!!
How have you not convinced our other brother to make an account for the online shop yet? Or better yet, how do you not have on and just ship it to him?
I'll be hunting for a Promaxis and Galient this summer. Too many nostalgia feels from those kits.
Who says I didn't already ask him? You won't be able to look for any Promaxis kits though. They're web only releases. Plus, they come out in September and the preorder period is likely to end before you go. Galient comes out in July though, so you may be able to find him.
Coming soon from Round 2 models, all 7 Enterprises, in 1/2500 scale.
They're missing the butt ugly J. I'm not sorry about that.
You're right!
And the 3 warp nacell version of the D from All Good Things.
Never mind then. Holding out for a complete set.
At least it doesn't have the Chubby-prize from the reboot movies.
I can't say I'm surprised at those being missing as they were only in a single episode each. Eh, no worries. I'd personally love a prototype Enterprise C though instead of the one we actually got in Yesterday's Enterprise (which btw I also like but the original concept IMO was markedly superior!). IIRC this is the one that was actually on the wall of Picard's briefing room (in a rough initial form of course).
Barzam wrote: Rune Masquer, eh? I wasn't aware models of any sort existed of that.
Edit- Actually, didn't Yutaka Izubuchi design both that Rune Masquer centaur mech AND the Promaxis?
Yes! Rune Masquer! I recall when they were coming out in the 90s, just gorgeous stuff. But way too spendy for me. I particularly liked Tristan:
I think Izubuchi did the RM, but I'm not familiar with the Promaxis.
Well, I'd say that pretty much confirms Izubuchi did the designs for Galient, or at least the OVA. The Tristan looks an awful lot like the OVA's redesign of the Wingal.
Speaking of Tristan, that just happens to be the name of a new Gundam. It's from something called Gundam: Twilight. I'm not sure if it's an anime, a manga, or a movie or what, but it looks set around the Neo Zeon period of the Universal Century.
If it isn't an anime, that kit is probably going to be all we see of this Gundam: Twilight.
Oh yeah, and there's this thing coming out soon.. You guys should all totally buy one.
The HGUC Barzam is due in May, MSRP is 1500 yen.
It also means that tease from Build Fighters will have become reality.
As long as I don't have to hear any fan theories about how the Probertprose was the real C and Yesterday's Enterprise is from an alternate history, sure. Let's go nuts.
Barzam wrote: Rune Masquer, eh? I wasn't aware models of any sort existed of that.
Edit- Actually, didn't Yutaka Izubuchi design both that Rune Masquer centaur mech AND the Promaxis?
Yes! Rune Masquer! I recall when they were coming out in the 90s, just gorgeous stuff. But way too spendy for me. I particularly liked Tristan:
I think Izubuchi did the RM, but I'm not familiar with the Promaxis.
I believe Izubuchi did all of the Rune Masquer designs, or at least most of them, and the models are all Work Shop Cast resin kits so very expensive and very rare, even for recasts.
That's pretty sweet.. There's a video out there of a guy who made a remote controlled R3000 spider tank. I'm sure someone will get a hold of this and put in nerf or airsoft guns and other insanity. Nice find!
The Lancer kit looks an absolute dead ringer for a slightly modified Tau unit. No real surprise there, but a few Tau bits, change out the look of the cannons = done.
I always liked the Lancer. It's a shame it only showed up once, and was pretty much forgotten after that. Too bad that kit is ¥17,000. Way too expensive.
The Soltic Bigfoot, or Battlemaster for you Battletech fans, is due in August at 6,800 yen. Fully poseable, no glue or paint necessary. I certainly wouldn't mind getting one.
I saw that link about the smart phone controlled Tachikoma and bugged my GF for two days asking if I could get it.....she said no ofc... I have a 2k$ tax return coming and she still said no. She does know me way to well.... :(
Great you tube vid, there was a cool tachikoma at the Production IG store in "somemall" in japan somewhere....it looks like a neat store.
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Hummm, looking at my Avatar, I think they need a CEO Jameson to go along with that Tachikoma....
Barzam wrote: This guy ought to look familiar to some of you.
The Soltic Bigfoot, or Battlemaster for you Battletech fans, is due in August at 6,800 yen. Fully poseable, no glue or paint necessary. I certainly wouldn't mind getting one.
That would be perfectly for my Mech Attack 28mm games where most of the models are between 6 and 9 inches tall. Unforunatley at around 60 bucks USD, I'll pass. I've been wanting to add a battlemaster to my force for a while though. Maybe a more affordable model kit will come through at some point.
I wouldn't count on it, Eilif. Unless Bandai makes some Minipla kits like the Xabungle, Galient, or Ideon ones, the Max Factory series is probably as good as its going to get. Thankfully, beyond the first couple kits, Max Factory seem to have really hit their stride with their plastic kits and the quality has been very good. I expect they'll go down in price before too long, as well.
-DE-, thanks for providing the scale/size info. You beat me to it.
This is a new kit. There was a kit of the same mech design in the early 1980s, probably from Bandai and may have been re-released in the USA by Revell or someone.
Yes, it was Robotech Defenders by Revell. Great days.
This is a new kit. There was a kit of the same mech design in the early 1980s, probably from Bandai and may have been re-released in the USA by Revell or someone.
Yes, it was Robotech Defenders by Revell. Great days.
Ooooh, only $53 USD That's getting tempting.
Swap out the 1/72 dual-cockpit for a single seat 28mm and it would be perfect!
Automatically Appended Next Post: However, I just scored one of the other Dougram's for less than $30. Looks like there's more available too!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322328830571 I'm gonna have me a Griffin!
This is a new kit. There was a kit of the same mech design in the early 1980s, probably from Bandai and may have been re-released in the USA by Revell or someone.
Yes, it was Robotech Defenders by Revell. Great days.
Takara, actually. Bandai never had Dougram's license. If you can believe it though, Takara actually produced a Dougram tabletop wargame. It's pretty hard to come by now, though.
Eilif wrote:
However, I just scored one of the other Dougram's for less than $30. Looks like there's more available too!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322328830571 I'm gonna have me a Griffin!
Ah, the Korchima Battalion Special. The basic Soltic Roundfacer was their second plastic kit, so it has some shortcomings. I'm curious if they corrected them for the Korchima Special. The basic Roundfacer's arms like to constantly fall off. Let us know if this version has the same issue.
Generalstoner wrote:The Griffin's ppc should be hand held and not mounted on the forearm like the Shadowhawk's medium laser.
Good Point. Not sure whether I'll go as-is and call it a variant or scratch something hand-held.
Either way doesn't matter too much. For our 28mm "Mech Attack" games we aren't technically in the BT unvierse anyway. I just have a love for the BT universe so many of our mechs are designs that were used in Battletech: Robotech toys, Macross Kits and Mechwarrior action figures to name a few.
This is this year's Adepticon game that used them:
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2017/03/30/aar-mech-attack-at-adepticon-2017/
Still, a hand-mounted weapon isn't hard to do. MIssile Launchers (the kind that actually fire projectiles) from 3.75" figures like GIJoe and Star Wars are the perfect size for 7" Mecha. Here's two kits I made guns for that way. They had been built by someone years ago (needed a repaint and cleanup bad) and had no weapons.
Barzam wrote:
Ah, the Korchima Battalion Special. The basic Soltic Roundfacer was their second plastic kit, so it has some shortcomings. I'm curious if they corrected them for the Korchima Special. The basic Roundfacer's arms like to constantly fall off. Let us know if this version has the same issue.
I'll let you know how it works at first. If they are loose I'll just glue them. Many of my Mechs have poseable limbs but the ones that get loose just get glued in place.
Generalstoner wrote: The Griffin's ppc should be hand held and not mounted on the forearm like the Shadowhawk's medium laser.
Could be both. Tho TRO 3025 had a hand held PPC other pics in the really old art had the wrist mounted version. I guess it depends of the artists using different Round Facer versions from the original source.
Generalstoner wrote: The Griffin's ppc should be hand held and not mounted on the forearm like the Shadowhawk's medium laser.
Could be both. Tho TRO 3025 had a hand held PPC other pics in the really old art had the wrist mounted version. I guess it depends of the artists using different Round Facer versions from the original source.
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Dang you guys know your stuff! I didn't even bother to dig out my old books. I just went by what I thought I remembered. Good to know I've got options.
Thanks!
Oh. Generalstoner is probably closer to the iconic image. The most popular version was the handheld PPC one after all, you could always say that the wrist mounted one is a Free Worlds League variant with a large laser. Marik was always fond of LLaser models as they only had one PPC factory in the good olden days of the 4th SW.
Yeah there are two really nice VOTOMS sets on the way. I really want another quality 1/60th VOTOMS so I can replace the legs on my inbound Contemptor dread.
As with most things I find myself liking the bad guys more than the Dogs which are so prevalent. I want Dive Beetles and Tortoises (not Fatties...they're boring).
The Korchima Battalion Special is just an upgrade sprue, so you still have the gun from the Round face kit. It does give you the back pack that a Griffin should have. I haven't had any problems with the arms on mine. The kit is on Amazon for $18!
These decals will be appearing on HLJ in June. There will be sheets for various Gundam serieses, but I thought that the ones for Gallarhorn and Tekkadan might be usefully generic for Imperial Knights, Space Marines and the like.
Tekkadan: https://hlj.com/product/BANN19602/Gun Gallarhorn: https://hlj.com/product/BANN19603/Gun
Thats a re-release of the 2012 model, it's a good kit but being Kotobukia a few of the parts have a very loose fit and the leg joints get very floppy after a few months. And that picture's of the prototype, on mine the lower "jaw" doesn't close flush with the upper half of the cockpit.
Damn nice model over all though, glad I have it. I wonder if this release will have the supper shiny box with artwork from Yuji Shinkawa as well?
It would take a lot of work to make it look Imperial/40K as well. It's a cool kit, but this thread is more becoming a generic "look at cool anime stuff!" rather than real kit-bash or 40K related models.
The first page is all Gundam kits and references to how it has to be a joke since they wouldn't fit in. Personally I find it useful since not everybody plays wih the same aesthetic (see also smurf marines and pony marines).
And some of us no longer play 40k and find the models presented to be useful for other games.
Elbows wrote: It would take a lot of work to make it look Imperial/40K as well. It's a cool kit, but this thread is more becoming a generic "look at cool anime stuff!" rather than real kit-bash or 40K related models.
Personally I think it would look fine with a Tau army. Going by the novels, 40k has no firm aesthetic. The art and models we have are a very small cross sampling. Gothic lunacy is more prevalent, but not the sole answer.
Kit bashing random stuff or using stand ins also goes back to the Rogue Trader/2nd ed spirit, and could arguably be more correct.
The A.I.S. mecha from Phantasy Star Online 2 have a release date, now. Both the red and grey versions are due in August, with a 5,000 yen MSRP. So, you should be able to preorder them now for less than that. Their scale is 1/12, which seems oddly small to me. I haven't played the game before, so does anyone know if they're supposed to be manned mecha, or robots?
Barzam wrote: The A.I.S. mecha from Phantasy Star Online 2 have a release date, now. Both the red and grey versions are due in August, with a 5,000 yen MSRP. So, you should be able to preorder them now for less than that. Their scale is 1/12, which seems oddly small to me. I haven't played the game before, so does anyone know if they're supposed to be manned mecha, or robots?
Manned mecha. You jump in them for some Emergency quests and bosses. They were pretty fun to use back when I still played.
According to what I find, it's a manned 10-meter suit, and the model is 1/72 scale. That would make it 139mm tall, or 5-1/2" tall -- about the same size as a 1/144 scale Gundam kit.
Coming in July, Bandai is finally making a new model of the Hamma-Hamma from Double Zeta.
It's a part of the RE/100 series, so this baby is going to be 1/100 scale. Expect it to be around 4,500 yen or so.
Now, the Hamma-Hamma is a big suit, if the original model is anything to go by. The old 1/144 kit from Double Zeta was easily the size of a regular 1/100. So, this thing's going to be a tall kit.