It didn't click with me that the Hanma-Hanma was a 1/100 kit.
I remember your old one. It was VERY large, considering most of the other double Z kits were pretty typical scale Gundams.
Might keep my eyes out for one this summer, especially if I can get it cheap. Hopefully they put some more articulation into its arms, because if I remember correctly, the original kit had very limited motion.
adamsouza wrote: I was hoping that since they were just randomly packed monotone snap together figures on a sprue, that they would actually be cheaper.
It's possible that they are... in Japan. Anyone happen to know what Space Marines ordinarily sell for there?
These are absurdly expensive for both gashapons and GW models. HLJ has a 24-pack up for 146 USD. You're better off buying two Start Collecting boxes for that.
A Gundam Universal Unit 10-pack is 41 USD, and those are 8.5 cm high and pre-painted and fully articulated.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Nice but I don't like to see 3rd party models in my 40k games, they ruin the emmersion IMHO.
Agreed!
Plus these look on the small side, like they're shorter than 'real' Marines too...
Are you guys joking? The size looks spot on and the sprue says games workshop.
Looking more closely I'd recommend anyone interested pick these up fast, I can see GW hitting the Japanese with a lawsuit that'll make Chapter House look like a schoolyard argument.
Seeking inspiration is fine but these are clear rip offs.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Nice but I don't like to see 3rd party models in my 40k games, they ruin the emmersion IMHO.
Agreed!
Plus these look on the small side, like they're shorter than 'real' Marines too...
Are you guys joking? The size looks spot on and the sprue says games workshop.
Looking more closely I'd recommend anyone interested pick these up fast, I can see GW hitting the Japanese with a lawsuit that'll make Chapter House look like a schoolyard argument.
Seeking inspiration is fine but these are clear rip offs.
Definitely.
Being in Japan isn't going to protect them from GW Legal!!!
lord_blackfang wrote:It's no wonder that these figures are similar to GW's if they're both ripping off Starcraft.
Good point.
Blizzard will probably partner up with GW to sue them right out of existence...
It even says copyright GW on the sprune so they are obviously official In Japan
Why would you trust somebody who's obviously willing to ignore international copyrights to not falsify that little detail. It just makes the stuff look even more authentic.
Barzam wrote: Coming in July, Bandai is finally making a new model of the Hamma-Hamma from Double Zeta.
It's a part of the RE/100 series, so this baby is going to be 1/100 scale. Expect it to be around 4,500 yen or so.
Now, the Hamma-Hamma is a big suit, if the original model is anything to go by. The old 1/144 kit from Double Zeta was easily the size of a regular 1/100. So, this thing's going to be a tall kit.
It's a fantastic kit, the one thing I found fantastic was the fist was molded in one piece with 16 points of articulation. All the fingers and the thumb moved, and it was molded as one piece. It's excellent and I suggest you go and google some pics for it.
It even says copyright GW on the sprune so they are obviously official In Japan
Why would you trust somebody who's obviously willing to ignore international copyrights to not falsify that little detail. It just makes the stuff look even more authentic.
Barzam wrote: Coming in July, Bandai is finally making a new model of the Hamma-Hamma from Double Zeta.
It's a part of the RE/100 series, so this baby is going to be 1/100 scale. Expect it to be around 4,500 yen or so.
Now, the Hamma-Hamma is a big suit, if the original model is anything to go by. The old 1/144 kit from Double Zeta was easily the size of a regular 1/100. So, this thing's going to be a tall kit.
It's a fantastic kit, the one thing I found fantastic was the fist was molded in one piece with 16 points of articulation. All the fingers and the thumb moved, and it was molded as one piece. It's excellent and I suggest you go and google some pics for it.
Yeah the one piece hands of the later mg kits and the rg kits are pretty nice.
It even says copyright GW on the sprune so they are obviously official In Japan
Why would you trust somebody who's obviously willing to ignore international copyrights to not falsify that little detail. It just makes the stuff look even more authentic.
All I can tell you about Hexa Gear is that it launches sometime in August (though not those particular kits) and that it's in 1/24 scale. The octopus mech and the bipedal robot don't have release dates or prices yet. I would expect them to release sometime around December or so since Kotobukiya usually puts preorders out well in advance.
I know you're joking, but I could provide that at least with the Hexa Gear figures once they're out. It might give you guys a better idea of the scale of the vehicles.
Keep in mind though, those Hexa Gear vehicles are fully modular, so you should be able to build whatever you want out of them, regardless of intended scale.
I guess it was Summer Wonderfest this weekend, so that's why there's these new reveals. Max Factory had a few new Dougram kit prototypes to show as well.
Mackerel, which I don't think made it into Battletech, but was in the Robotech Defenders comic.
Roundfacer with its tracksuit, er, I mean "camo suit." Not sure how they're going to pull this one off.
Blizzard Gunner, which I see being a very popular kit.
Barzam wrote: I know you're joking, but I could provide that at least with the Hexa Gear figures once they're out. It might give you guys a better idea of the scale of the vehicles.
Keep in mind though, those Hexa Gear vehicles are fully modular, so you should be able to build whatever you want out of them, regardless of intended scale.
Only slightly. That suit is really cute, so I do want to know how big it is, whether it's Terminator / Dreadnought / Dreadknight-sized.
Is there any more information on the modular part? To me they look like finished models, if in fact they can be recombined lego style this is really exciting news.
Do you remember the BLOX subline from Zoids by any chance? Hexa Gear looks reminiscent of that series. These pics should give an idea of the degree of modularity to them.
You can see a partial breakdown of one of the kits here. All of the dark grey pieces should be the same as the ones above, which means lots of little bits and pieces.
Here's a taste of what can be done using some pieces from the expansion pack on one of the kits.
It also looks like through the use of an adapter, the Hexa Gear parts will be compatible with their Frame Arms and MGS lines.
I also found additional pics of the Bulk Arm Alpha (the biped) and the Hide Storm (octopus) on Kotobukiya's website, spoiler'd due to size.
Bulk Arm Alpha
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Hide Storm
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and no, Kotobukiya does not mention the sizes of these two anywhere on their site.
and no, Kotobukiya does not mention the sizes of these two anywhere on their site.
The scale was given as 1/24 (so a person would stand ~3" tall), and that picture shows the pilot.
I take it to be about 7" tall, roughly the same size of a 1/100 Gundam kit. That makes it roughly comparable to a 40k Knight, minus the giant shoulderpads. It is quite a bit bigger than I had expected - I had thought it to be less than 4" tall.
Barzam wrote: Do you remember the BLOX subline from Zoids by any chance? Hexa Gear looks reminiscent of that series. These pics should give an idea of the degree of modularity to them.
Saddly I do remember BLOX. Ugly designs and the blox had a tendency to ware out and get very loose after only a few months, this looks like a vastly superior set up.
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highlord tamburlaine wrote: The Mackerel seems to have served as inspiration for the Ghoon from Gundam SEED.
At least it looks like it to me. Don't remember that design though. Getting old I guess...
I suspect the Zok from the original Gundam was the inspiration for both.
The Zok is a four letter (technically 3) word between Barzam and myself for the abuse I suffered at its stupid beam cannon across multiple Gundam games.
Zoks. Goggs too. Z'Goks, Hygoggs, and Kapools as well.
Despite the Acguy carrying a mega particle beam cannon, I've always considered it more of a ground combat type than the typical amphibious/ aquatic suits that carry them.
Plus any suit that does kung fu is a thumbs up in my book.
Zssa missle swarms I can handle.
It's those beam cannons that tend to get me.
I be that octopus mech would probably have a beam cannon...
Highlord Tamburlaine, it may (or may not) please you to know that I can also totally rock the GHOON and ASH in Federation vs. ZAFT.
And don't nobody be knocking my man, Acguy. He's the baddest of the bad. Stealth capabilities, modular weapons, heavy armor, and highly maneuverable. That thing is not to be trifled with. They made them even more awesome in Gundam Thunderbolt with their kitbashed, field upgraded Acguys.
Not sure how big this will be but it will be for sale for $20 on Amazon in February to support the new Pacific Rim movie next year. Apparently comes with swappable arms, including a chain sword.
TheWaspinator wrote: Ami Ami is claiming 170mm for that Gipsy Avenger. It also comes with another weapon, a "gravity sling", which might be some sort of gun.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Some official images of the child-sized Macross are out.
Turns out this thing is a sound system! Amp and speakers all built into it and at about 3 feet tall. I have not seen a price anywhere yet but it will have to be crazy expensive.
Love the raptor but it's way too pricey at $85 after shipping. How big is it? would it be a good proxy for something like a stormtalon (or whatever the smaller SM flyer was called...)?
Necros wrote: Love the raptor but it's way too pricey at $85 after shipping. How big is it? would it be a good proxy for something like a stormtalon (or whatever the smaller SM flyer was called...)?
My guess is pretty big, there are two 1/32 scale (roughly 54m) pilots visible in the cockpit. The box is 13" x 7"
Necros wrote: Love the raptor but it's way too pricey at $85 after shipping. How big is it? would it be a good proxy for something like a stormtalon (or whatever the smaller SM flyer was called...)?
My guess is pretty big, there are two 1/32 scale (roughly 54m) pilots visible in the cockpit. The box is 13" x 7"
The description on the back of the box does say the finished kit is 12" long. So, too big to serve as a proxy for a storm-whatsit fighter.
Poseable action figure. It's quite pricey, but from the gallery pics, it looks like they are doing the whole range of mecha out of Macross in proper scale.
If I was rich I would get a bunch of these and do big scale battles in the park.
The Hi-Metal kits have been out for a while. They look nice, but are too small to be in scale to 40k. Being, I believe 1/100 scale. Of course if you don't care that they aren't the correct size for 40k go for it.
Theophony wrote: They already have 1:1 scale ultramarines, and we all know that everyone wants to be an ultramarine, even Gundams
Didn't they take him down and hide him behind the stairs in WhW?
Than Gundam is awesome. They also have a 1:1 RX-78 somewhere. I would love to see a 1:1 Sazabi or Zaku personally.
Those Macross Destroids a few posts back look awesome also. I am a sucker for anything Robotech/Macross/Genesis Climber MOSPEADA.... love me some Cyclones.
Word is, Unicorn will in fact transform into Destroy Mode. Seems like that would be complex and prone to breaking down though.
I'm actually a bit disappointed that we're getting Unicorn instead of a Zaku. Build Fighters even had an episode where the cast visited the site for an event and the showed a 1/1 Char Zaku standing opposite the RX-78.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: It almost looks like the parts are going to move so it can switch modes. That's pretty cool. Always liked the Unicorn's design.
I do agree it's time we see a 1:1 Zeon model though. A Zaku would be more appropriate than a Sazabi- plus the Sazabi is just too dang big.
Yeah, I know a Zaku would be more appropriate, but dang nam it the Sazabi is just such a cool mobile suit. I got the 1/144 and the 1/100 ver ka and I love them both. I am looking for the 1/100th original suit locally also. The 1/100 ver ka Sinanju is also a nice kit but not as nice or as big as the Sazabi. The MSN-04 Sazabi has much more 'heft' to the kit the then MSN-06 Sinaju.
I would love to see a 1:1 Zaku tho next to the RX-78 it would be really neat. Especially if they had a statues of Amuro and Char next to them.... I so do love wishlisting
I'm posting these here rather than in the military/historical thread because they're blatantly fictional. Anyway, these have turned up for pre-order on HLJ:
https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectmanufacturer%3Arocketmodels Basically a paper panzer hull on mecha-legs with a kugelblitz turret stuck underneath and various guns on top. This is the most conventional one, the other dorsal weapons are a twin-flak, the AA turret designed for the Panther and a Reintochter SAM. A bit kitbash-y but possible AdMech / Weird War applications?
Turaxa wrote: I'm posting these here rather than in the military/historical thread because they're blatantly fictional. Anyway, these have turned up for pre-order on HLJ:
https://hlj.com/search/go?af=selectmanufacturer%3Arocketmodels Basically a paper panzer hull on mecha-legs with a kugelblitz turret stuck underneath and various guns on top. This is the most conventional one, the other dorsal weapons are a twin-flak, the AA turret designed for the Panther and a Reintochter SAM. A bit kitbash-y but possible AdMech / Weird War applications?
o0o0 pretty... nice legs for stealing them and turning Mechanicum Ordo Reductor tanks into walking tanks....
Not a bad little kit, but much smaller than I was expecting. It's about a full head shorter than most 1/144 Gundam kits. For a Kotobukiya model, it's surprisingly simplistic. Most of their stuff uses tiny, minute little pieces, but not this kit. The way the hands are designed is interesting as well; the fingers are all one piece that clips into the palm. Much better method of doing the hands than some of their previous kits. I would say that there are two issues with the kit. 1)if you want it to look like the boxart, you absolutely have to paint it. Most of the white bits in the boxart and in the box photos are not present on the kit. Same with the clear blue bits. Thankfully, it still looks good even if you don't paint it. 2) the hips. I wish they used a system like Bandai's been using on their HG kits lately. It really needs a thigh swivel. Instead, its hips are basically using a ball & socket style joint, so it limits the hip mobility somewhat.
Overall though, definitely a good model. Pick one up!
The only one I recognize is the very first picture which is a minor modification to a Dougram kit. Just look up larger scale Dougram kits and you'll see the kit it's based on. The others look like scratch builds. The CGI of the air-defense tank is a kind of futuristic Tunguska (you could probably bash one from that kind of model kit).
I really love the SCUD/missile launcher one, so if that's a kit, please do post a link!
Breotan wrote: Sigh... Why isn't a company like Bandai getting in on this and buying the rights to make models of these?
You know why. There's so much stuff out there that no one will make an investment in making models (or shelving them on stores) without a massive 'pre awareness' through a cartoon or movie (or a real life world war).
Believe me, you don't want Bandai doing something like that. They'd screw it up. Just look at what they do with other properties they don't have any real interest in but pick up anyway. Mars Daybreak, Brain Powered, Nobunaga the Fool, Xegapain, Escaflowne, Nadesico, Gyrozetter, Majin Bone, the list goes on. They might make one or two kits, but the quality is likely to be absolute garbage (as in the case of Mars Daybreak), or if they actually do bother putting any effort into it, they'll probably only make one whole model and then kill the line (like with Brain Powered). No, you want someone like Wave or Volks to try something like that. Someone small and willing to take the risk. Actually, you'd probably find stuff like that render as garage kits at shows like Wonderfest.
Breotan wrote: Sigh... Why isn't a company like Bandai getting in on this and buying the rights to make models of these?
Because they're pouring all of their money and resources into Star Wars at the moment, it's half the reason why the Gundam Master Grade line is dying on its feet.
A couple of those vehicles you linked to reminded me of Ma.K (Maschinen Krieger) kits, but I couldn't find any matches.
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Barzam wrote: Believe me, you don't want Bandai doing something like that. They'd screw it up. Just look at what they do with other properties they don't have any real interest in but pick up anyway. Mars Daybreak, Brain Powered, Nobunaga the Fool, Xegapain, Escaflowne, Nadesico, Gyrozetter, Majin Bone, the list goes on. They might make one or two kits, but the quality is likely to be absolute garbage (as in the case of Mars Daybreak), or if they actually do bother putting any effort into it, they'll probably only make one whole model and then kill the line (like with Brain Powered). No, you want someone like Wave or Volks to try something like that. Someone small and willing to take the risk. Actually, you'd probably find stuff like that render as garage kits at shows like Wonderfest.
I have little experience with Wave but I've been seriously unimpressed with the quality of their kits I've seen so far. Volks have only recently moved into plastic injection molding for mecha kits with their Five Star Stories IMS line, they're really nicely detailed but if the V-Siren Prominence I have is any indication they've got a long way to go before their engineering gets close to Bandai and Kotobukia levels.
Barzam wrote: Believe me, you don't want Bandai doing something like that. They'd screw it up. Just look at what they do with other properties they don't have any real interest in but pick up anyway. Mars Daybreak, Brain Powered, Nobunaga the Fool, Xegapain, Escaflowne, Nadesico, Gyrozetter, Majin Bone, the list goes on. They might make one or two kits, but the quality is likely to be absolute garbage (as in the case of Mars Daybreak), or if they actually do bother putting any effort into it, they'll probably only make one whole model and then kill the line (like with Brain Powered). No, you want someone like Wave or Volks to try something like that. Someone small and willing to take the risk. Actually, you'd probably find stuff like that render as garage kits at shows like Wonderfest.
OTOH...
It's a good kit!
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Imateria wrote: I have little experience with Wave but I've been seriously unimpressed with the quality of their kits I've seen so far. Volks have only recently moved into plastic injection molding for mecha kits with their Five Star Stories IMS line, they're really nicely detailed but if the V-Siren Prominence I have is any indication they've got a long way to go before their engineering gets close to Bandai and Kotobukia levels.
The Wave FSS HIPS kits are pretty good, especially considering the price compared to resin. I wish I'd have bought more 1/100 LED Mirage back when they were "cheap"!
Gasaraki is probably the exception there. Though, to be fair, there actually were only those three mech types in the series. Frankly, those kits were a lot nicer than the show really deserved. The show for some reason takes this really sharp turn towards hard right-wing politics and xenophobia in its second half that really rubbed me the wrong way. Not to mention the totally unnecessary mysticism aspect. It could've been a really cool near future war story, but no. Past lives, trans-dimensional beings, family drama, corporate espionage, and hard right politics were what they went with.
Prior to Gasaraki swinging hard right, the show is awesome. The mechs are awesome, and Bandai put a lot of love into designing the model kits. They are, arguably, the best of Bandai's not-Gundam work.
OTOH, I kinda want to get Brain Powerd stuff because they're so cutesy compared to the typical mech stuff stomping around.
Gasraki 1/35 kits are cool and look very good with 28mm stuff, but are they even available anymore? I don't think I've seen them for regular sale for quite a few years.
I've got one in my 28mm mecha forces. I would love to have more but I won't pay collector prices.
-Here's mine with some minor weapons mod and a 25mm pilot fig.
-In the middle is a Robotech toy with minor mods and new paint.
-On the left is a Mechwarrior Dark Age Legionaire action figure that is stock except for the base and lack of exposed ammo chain.
Something to note though, it may not be nearly as huge as folks were expecting. However, it does look to still be decently sized. Something unfortunate that I learned though is that there's actually bonus weapons included if you order through Kotobukiya's webshop. Problem is, it doesn't seem to be available for preorder through Kotobukiya's non-Japanese webshop. That's kind of lame.
Imateria wrote: I have little experience with Wave but I've been seriously unimpressed with the quality of their kits I've seen so far. Volks have only recently moved into plastic injection molding for mecha kits with their Five Star Stories IMS line, they're really nicely detailed but if the V-Siren Prominence I have is any indication they've got a long way to go before their engineering gets close to Bandai and Kotobukia levels.
The Wave FSS HIPS kits are pretty good, especially considering the price compared to resin. I wish I'd have bought more 1/100 LED Mirage back when they were "cheap"!
I had the 1/100 Junchoon and chucked it, easily the worst model I've ever had the misfortune to get my hands on. Mind you, it comes from the 90's so maybe they've improved drastically in the time since.
Kotobukiya's Hexa Gear line has hit retail now. I just received my order of the two pilot figures today. They're pretty nice, especially considering their size. I got one of mine assembled this evening in about 30 minutes. All snap-fit, no paint necessary. Very articulated and very flexible. A nice feature is that they used a softer ploycap type material for a lot of the high friction areas, so these figures should actually withstand actual play from children. Only downside is, at least on mine, the hands like to pop out.
If you want to see how the figures compare to GW, I took a size comparison.
Kamen Rider Black there is a 1/18 figure (only one I had on hand) and is about the same size as your average modern day GI Joe or Star Wars figure. So, you'll have some kitbashing ahead of you if you want to try adapting their vehicles to 40k or other game systems. On the plus side, these guys will be great to have just hanging around on the desktop to fiddle with.
Barzam wrote: Kotobukiya's Hexa Gear line has hit retail now. I just received my order of the two pilot figures today. They're pretty nice, especially considering their size. I got one of mine assembled this evening in about 30 minutes. All snap-fit, no paint necessary. Very articulated and very flexible. A nice feature is that they used a softer ploycap type material for a lot of the high friction areas, so these figures should actually withstand actual play from children. Only downside is, at least on mine, the hands like to pop out.
If you want to see how the figures compare to GW, I took a size comparison.
Kamen Rider Black there is a 1/18 figure (only one I had on hand) and is about the same size as your average modern day GI Joe or Star Wars figure. So, you'll have some kitbashing ahead of you if you want to try adapting their vehicles to 40k or other game systems. On the plus side, these guys will be great to have just hanging around on the desktop to fiddle with.
So, is that dreadnought size? Wish they were bit bigger because the governor one would make an awesome dreadknight.
With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
£80 for the Krieger, £38 for the Van ship but no idea what that will translate into in other territories as I don't know if they're getting an official UK release via distribution or if the model shop is going to have to import them himself
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
Oh how embarassing, I still haven't posted a painted picture of that...
I got 3 of those kits but one had been stored in a hot room and warped to the point of being unusable. Nonetheless I recommend them, great size for 40k fliers.
Eilif wrote: With the star trek models, I wish they'd release the runabout kit again. It'd be a great model for any sci-fi star base.
Kid K's picture shows the size well.
Interestingly I have the action figure version of the lander pictured on the right. It's huge. It's also missing the side wings, but that's ok as I probably would have done away with them anyway for what I have in mind for it.
I found one of those Runabout kits on ebay about 4 years ago for $15. Still unmade, but man does it have potential. The way it fits together makes it perfect for all kinds of mods and kit bashing. The only gripe I have with it is that if I use it as a 40k model, there really isn't a convenient place to put an access door. It would require major cutting of the rear. If it ever gets 40k rules when Fires of Cyraxus gets released, I'd like to convert it into a Custodes flier.
A bit off topic, but every time I see garage kits from these small indy shows, I always wonder why we haven't seen more wargaming sized kits (or kits designed for wargaming) coming from Japan.
Considering what a premium display space can be in most major cities (we don't have that problem out in the countryside!), why don't modelers/ casters develop smaller scale products?
It's been a head scratcher for a long time.
I was asking the owner of a dedicated game shop that had painted 40k stuff about his a few years ago, and he had mentioned that while there was in interest in the modeling aspect from a small but dedicated core, his response was the designs didn't really appeal to local tastes. It wasn't like local players were adverse to the gaming aspect or the hobby aspect- it was the designs that turned them off.
So then why aren't any companies trying to get into this market?
Because the market is very small, and the scale is "strange"
or otherwise, 1/56 and 1/64 are just there because GW wanted to use a unique scale for their stuff
historical wargaming was there before and 1/100 for large mass battles and 1/72 for small scale mass battles and 1/32 for skirmish the usual size
1/48 is a suitable size for large vehicles placed in the middle between the higher detail and larger 1/3(2)5 kits while 1/72 is nice for large dioramas and wargaming
there is no reason for getting another medium size with 1/56 without being dedicated to historical wargaming
GW stuff was originally supposed to be "heroic" 25mm 1/72 scale, and has since suffered the biggest scale creep of any range I can think of. Compare a RTB-01 Space Marine with a current Primaris Marine, and it's kinda ridiculous. At this point, GW is 1/48 for sure.
JohnHwangDD wrote: GW stuff was originally supposed to be "heroic" 25mm 1/72 scale.
Not quite...
GW figs were never really anywhere near 1/72 scale. In some military models and in england, 1/72 is considered called 25mm because it's the overall height of the mini with a helmet is pretty darn close to 25mm.
However, the long-used to-the-eye scale of military wargaming models 1/72 scale is much more comparable to 20mm (sole to eye). Except for an old mounted pre-slotta figure I've got which is abnormally small, all the GW stuff I've seen have been 25mm to the eye or more
JohnHwangDD wrote: GW... has since suffered the biggest scale creep of any range I can think of. Compare a RTB-01 Space Marine with a current Primaris Marine, and it's kinda ridiculous. At this point, GW is 1/48 for sure.
This however, I do mostly agree with. The difference between a RT plastic and a modern marine was already somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5mm. I don't know the exact size of primaris marines but they look big enough to not only be 1/48, but -depending on your fluff source- to possibly even be truescale in 1/48.
For anyone who wants to check to see if their wargaming minis are around 1/48, an average male in that scale should be about 33 or 34mm from the sole of feet to the eyeline. Most GW infantry aren't quite there, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are soon.
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kodos wrote: Because the market is very small, and the scale is "strange"
or otherwise, 1/56 and 1/64 are just there because GW wanted to use a unique scale for their stuff
historical wargaming was there before and 1/100 for large mass battles and 1/72 for small scale mass battles and 1/32 for skirmish the usual size
1/48 is a suitable size for large vehicles placed in the middle between the higher detail and larger 1/3(2)5 kits while 1/72 is nice for large dioramas and wargaming
there is no reason for getting another medium size with 1/56 without being dedicated to historical wargaming
I agree that the market is small, compared to the wider market. 1/56 doesn't have much pull at all. However, as regards scale, 25mm and 1/64 were not invented by GW. GW has much more to do with the bulky "heroic" proportions of miniatures and the scale creep they accelerated.
25mm miniatures had been around historical minis for quite some time before GW adopted the scale. 1/64 was already a somewhat accepted scale for niches in die-cast cars, and railroad "S" gauge/scale. Ertl die cast and American Flyer trains are still made in this scale.
Though among Garage kit makers 1/72 and 1/35 (or 1/32) are far more common, there are a fair number of 1/48 kits that can be quite usefull for 28mm wargamers.
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Seriously, my wallet is twitching in what I can only assume is some kind of pre-orgasmic nervous anticipation to opening itself up to this ultimate hunk of a mech!
So this showed up today. Bandai is making a High Grade Arbalest from Full Metal Panic. Of course, it's been 15 years since the anime originally aired and, beyond this being the year of its 15th anniversary, holds not much more significance than that. Also weird, Kotobukiya already has an Arbalest kit coming out soon, so I'm not sure why Bandai is making this one. Anyway, it does look nice.
Invisible Victory coming out next year is the reason for the Arbalest inundation. There's also the Metal Build of the Arbalest slated for March. If you ever wanted an Arbalest, 2018 is going to be the year you'll get your Arbalest.
Eilif wrote: That moon bus is fantastic and reasonably priced too. I'm presently needing various civilan spacecraft and that would fit the bill nicely.
I can also recommend the 1/72 Space 1999 Eagle. $25, a foot long and lots of conversion potential.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: If I read it right this kit does not transform, you get 3 models one of each mode.
Looks like that to me too.
"This kit, which is a reissue of an earlier release with new packaging, includes three kits of the Legioss Zeta, one of each of its three modes: Armo-Fighter, Armo-Diver and Armo-Soldier."
I hadn't seen this thread when I made this other one, so I hope that's not breaking any rules or anything, but maybe some of you folks would be able to help me out with a particular problem here: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/747532.page
It's more of a kitbashing issue than I think this thread focuses on, but...
Looks like I need to buy two of that Star Trek kit so that I can have four nacelles to convert a four-nacelled Excelsior study model. As. A bonus, I can make both an out of scale B'rel and an out of scale K'voort! Sweet.
Depends, these big shows tend to show off a lot of things in one go, but I'd expect Q1 or 2 this year. The thing to watch out for is whether it's P Bandai or not, they're only sold in Japan and you'd need a third party buyer service to get it for you which can knock the price up by as much as half again.
Some more Star Wars in varying scales and sizes but all of it cheap and easy to build. If you go to the Q&A section there's usually a size for the assembled model.
The Pelican and U-wing may not be suitable for 40k, but both are perfectly scaled for 15mm. I have the U-Wing and it isn't as big as the Pelican, so it makes a nice dropship if you have space constraints.
I was building a Landing Bay board so bought a few boxes of the Battlestar Galactica Viper MK VII kits. They conveniently came two to a box and I liked them because they weren't immediately recognizable sci fi fighters.
I had hoped that, at 1/72 scale, they would be suitable but, to my picky eyes, they were just too small (almost like a kids playground ride toy next to a Primaris Marine). YMMV.
JohnHwangDD wrote: The Japanese ships only work if you haven't seen the anime. Otherwise, it's "how come Space Battleship Yamato is in the Gothic Sector?"
I'd say other than the Yamato herself you'll be fine. I mean really barring a truely dedicated fan who's going to be upset to see Alien Ship #64 Which We Saw For 21 Seconds?
JohnHwangDD wrote: The Japanese ships only work if you haven't seen the anime. Otherwise, it's "how come Space Battleship Yamato is in the Gothic Sector?"
I'd say other than the Yamato herself you'll be fine. I mean really barring a truely dedicated fan who's going to be upset to see Alien Ship #64 Which We Saw For 21 Seconds?
Because they're still looking for Iscandar? Hey, it's the warp, anything's possible!
I've a few Mecha Collection ships and they're about the size of BFG cruiser, maybe a bit bigger.
Is it wrong that I want to get a bunch of those and play Jovian Chronicles or Lightning Strikes! Are the models up to the challenge of that kind of handling?
Easy E wrote: Is it wrong that I want to get a bunch of those and play Jovian Chronicles or Lightning Strikes! Are the models up to the challenge of that kind of handling?
Well... the original JC/LS stuff is resin, with all that it entails. These ones are Bandai-level plastics, and apart of being insanely more detailed, they should be at least as sturdy as resins...
A while back I bought a box of used Star Wars Armada ships just for the giggles (got them for $40). It's mostly Empire star destroyers. 3 of them are about 5.5 Inches long, one a bit bigger.
I have no intent on playing Armada, as I know no one that plays it. I do know a couple people that want to play Battlefleet Gothic when it gets rereleased. I wonder if they will throw a fit if I have a "counts as" fleet. Star Destroyers backed up by 4-inch Battlestar Galactica ships, LOL
Easy E wrote: Is it wrong that I want to get a bunch of those and play Jovian Chronicles or Lightning Strikes! Are the models up to the challenge of that kind of handling?
Well... the original JC/LS stuff is resin, with all that it entails. These ones are Bandai-level plastics, and apart of being insanely more detailed, they should be at least as sturdy as resins...
So yes. Yes, they would be.
Generally I find it's important which generation of kits you're using. The new ones usually branded Yamato 2199 are FANTASTIC, everything fits together and they'll easily stand up to punishment.
The older kits (which I think are just branded Yamato) tend to have a lot of small fiddly parts and antennas that are just glued on with butt joints (ie flush against the plastic, rather than having a tab and hole). They're still fairly hardy but troublesome to build.
The ones I showed, Domellers III, were dreams to build and under $10. And generic enough to pass for several different fleets.
I shared these in my plog, but I'd recently come across a toyline out of China that some of you might be interested in. There's definitely some possibilities for wargame conversions.
While looking for some pics of the B.25 Acid Rain line, I came across a 1/24th scale Chinese action figure line that I believe is called Dark Source. The line is produced by a company called Joy Toy. I have a suspicion that the guys behind it are wargamers themselves due to there apparently being an actual wargame tied to Dark Source as well as due to the presence of a few pirated GW pieces. The line consists of near future sci-fi soldiers, mecha, and vehicles. The line draws inspiration most heavily from Titanfall, but there seems to be a bit of Gears of War, Halo, and Lost Planet in there as well.
So, just a few pics to share...
There's more stuff in the line, too. Check it out. You can find most of the sets on Aliexpress. Don't bother checking Ebay. There's only about two sellers on Ebay and they're charging way too much for everything.
If you're interested in the Joy Toy stuff, there's a seller on Aliexpress called Shop3216099 Store that you'll want to look out for. The name is weird and some elements of the listings wind up being nearly gibberish, but they have the best selection of the line and the best prices. They're the one I got my mech from. They seem to cycle items on sale quite regularly, so it's good to keep an eye out if you're interested in buying some. It helps that most of their Joy Toy stuff gets free shipping, too. So, case in point, I got my Iron Skeleton from them for about $42 last month, so I was able to get it a bit cheaper. Just Monday night I ordered the black Zeus mecha for only $60. So yeah, the prices are a bit high, but if you keep an eye out and use their coupons, you can get better prices.
And @Inquisitor Bob: Very nice BFG conversions there!
Thanks! Although, I must admit I actually was going for more of an SG1 or Babylon 5 look for that one. Most of my BFG ship photos went down with Photobucket. Long story short: I bought a lot of Ravenwing sprues.
Kotobukiya has two new Frame Arms variants going up for preorder on Monday. They appear to be AEW&C variants of the previously released Lidao and Jidao machines. It sounds like the Jidao variant (the white one) will come with a new handgun while the Lidao variant has a Kotobukiya shop exclusive handheld sensor pod that will only be included if you order it from their webshop or if you purchase it from one of their brick & mortar shops.
As some of you may have heard there's a new solo Star Wars picture coming out focusing on a single character. I forget what the solo Star Wars film is called but I'm sure we'll find out which solo character it focuses on pretty soon.
WARNING MAY CONTAIN IMPORTANT SPOILERS FOR A MOVIE EVERYONE IS PRETTY MEH ABOUT!
OK, the sensitive among you might want to scroll down...
Spoiler:
As I was saying there's a pretty important spoiler right here, that thing on front of that thing...
Spoiler:
It splits off into its own thing!
So when I was a kid I didn't always have enough space ships or whatnot for all the action figures and toy soldiers so I'd have to put them on books or something to represent the space ship they were on.
Apparently that is now canon.
Remember those cool speeder bikes from Return of the Jedi? I always wondered how they would look if they were just flying bricks. And well... Now I know.
It might be useful for making ships though...
Anyway looking forward to finding out who's in the solo Star Wars film. I'm hoping for Mace Windu myself.
It was $25 at my local Kmart, on special. Pretty big all things considered and I see them on the local clasified from time to time for sale even cheaper. I don't have a chimera or current rhino to test sorry.
The doorway about 11cm deep, 5cm high (slightly higher in the middle due to curve) and 8cm wide. I can post more pics if people want. Not sure what allows for but I really like the idea of marines being rapid deployed/picked up like this.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: As some of you may have heard there's a new solo Star Wars picture coming out focusing on a single character. I forget what the solo Star Wars film is called but I'm sure we'll find out which solo character it focuses on pretty soon.
WARNING MAY CONTAIN IMPORTANT SPOILERS FOR A MOVIE EVERYONE IS PRETTY MEH ABOUT!
OK, the sensitive among you might want to scroll down...
Spoiler:
As I was saying there's a pretty important spoiler right here, that thing on front of that thing...
Spoiler:
It splits off into its own thing!
So when I was a kid I didn't always have enough space ships or whatnot for all the action figures and toy soldiers so I'd have to put them on books or something to represent the space ship they were on.
Apparently that is now canon.
Remember those cool speeder bikes from Return of the Jedi? I always wondered how they would look if they were just flying bricks. And well... Now I know.
It might be useful for making ships though...
Anyway looking forward to finding out who's in the solo Star Wars film. I'm hoping for Mace Windu myself.
Wow I think we got some prime examples of "using random objects on the designers desk as inspiration" here.
Han Solo's land speeder looks like it was clearly based of a book and the imperial speeder was probably a stapler or quite possibly the wooden sign on the producers desk. They were clearly trying to top the original inspiration for the Millenium Flacon's shape being based on a cheeseburger with a bite taken out of it.
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In fact they actually thought "lets put that bitten off piece back, but not the olive on the side. That still needs to be the cockpit.
BrookM wrote: Isn't the thing that splits off and does its own thing a cargo pod or something?
Maybe but the laws of Toyeticness mean it will probably be a fighter or shuttle or rocket sled or something.
Love interest - Oh noes! The Engines are DEAD! How will we finish the Kesel Run and save the Rebellion?
Chewie - Waaaagh!
Solo - I have an idea, it's just crazy enough it might work.
(Ext shot, front part of the Falcon breaks off and rockets fire)
(Interior of rocket sled)
Actually, the cargo pod thing goes back to the early 80s. Back when Kenner was trying to come up with some way to continue the Star Wars toyline, they came up with a whole slew of ideas, such as a dual cockpit X-Wing, Anti-Aircraft AT-AT, Imperial crawler tanks, and a cargo shuttle that docked in the middle of the Millennium Falcon. I always thought it was a neat idea when I was a kid and was always kind of disappointed that the idea never saw production.
Those Imperial bikes though, those could make some pretty sweet capitol ships if you filled in the seat area. Might make some nice terrain for 15mm or Epic games, too.
Wow I think we got some prime examples of "using random objects on the designers desk as inspiration" here.
Han Solo's land speeder looks like it was clearly based of a book and the imperial speeder was probably a stapler or quite possibly the wooden sign on the producers desk.
Yeah. That book speeder if so plainly obvious that it is impossible to unsee. Not a great design.
Sim-Life wrote: Currently usong METAL GEAR!? as a Knight proxy for my AdMech.
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That Metal Gear is nice. Where did you get it?
Its just the Kotobukiya 1/100 model. I just got it on Amazon as getting it elsewhere on international would have resulted in import taxes that would increase the by 25%.
Not a fan of the Star Wars libro-speeder, or the paperweight bikes, but the Large-size thunderbird is amazing. If anyone has a link to one for sale or the specific toy name (that would set it apart from smaller versions) I'd appreciate it.
The Heavy gear has a geat look also. I much prefer it's more blocky aesthetic to most of the Gundam stuff. I'll have to look into it as it'd fit in nicely with my mostly-macross 28mm'ish mecha.
Barzam wrote: I shared these in my plog, but I'd recently come across a toyline out of China that some of you might be interested in. There's definitely some possibilities for wargame conversions.
There's more stuff in the line, too. Check it out. You can find most of the sets on Aliexpress.
Thanks for the heads-up! I've ordered the chap above from Aliexpress, for the very reasonable price of £28 (shipped surface mail). Payment was by PayPal.
The figure is about the same size as the Redemptor Dreadnought (16cm or 6" tall), and about the same price as the easy build version. It is painted, however, and fully articulated. There was a warning on the listing that there were not perfect and may have small flaws.
I don't expect to see this fella before June of this year, but I'll report on how I got on with the purchase.
I told a friend about this, and he mentioned that his wife had been buying sewing materials in bulk through Aliexpress for ages!
Kid_Kyoto wrote: So when I was a kid I didn't always have enough space ships or whatnot for all the action figures and toy soldiers so I'd have to put them on books or something to represent the space ship they were on.
Spoiler:
Apparently that is now canon.
Spoiler:
Remember those cool speeder bikes from Return of the Jedi? I always wondered how they would look if they were just flying bricks. And well... Now I know.
Those are some of the most lazy, uninspired models I've ever seen.
Oops typo I meant Metal Gear as that's clearly not a Heavy Gear.
Though I like the pseuo-Votoms aesthetic of Heavy Gear also.
Indeed. Pity the rules have been borderline unplayable, aside from balance problems.
Haven't seen the current version, but I flipped through the previous version and it wasn't something I wanted to play. I'm not really the target audience though as "Mech Attack" in all it's streamlined glory is more my speed. I would like to get some of the original 1/72 gears though as I think they'd size up well with the 10mm mechwarrior clix I currently use.
Fans Excited As ‘Solo’ Trailer Sheds Light On Specifically How It Will Suck
4/09/18 1:19pmSEE MORE: VOL 54 ISSUE 15
NEW YORK—Expressing their excitement at the preview of the latest installment in the popular franchise, self-proclaimed Star Wars fans told reporters Monday that they were blown away by a newly released Solo trailer that sheds light on specifically how the upcoming film will suck. “In the past, they’ve teased at the way the new movie is going to completely blow, but the full-length trailer really shows so much more about how gakky and wooden Alden Ehrenreich will be as a young Han Solo working his way through a boilerplate origin story,” said fan Lynn Hayes, noting that while the producers have provided hints at the way Solo would be a giant crock of gak—such as substantial script rewrites and the original directors being fired mid-shoot—it was a “real treat” to see the new trailer reveal so much about how the cast’s total lack of chemistry and the cringe-inducing dialogue would make the film a complete train wreck. “The teaser definitely stoked a lot of speculation about whether the movie would be mediocre because of generic characters like Therm Scissorpunch, Ron Howard’s uneven direction, or meaningless fan service like showing Chewbacca hugging his wife. It’s cool to know that it’s all of those things, and a lot more, that are really going to make this movie fething garbage.” Hayes was, however, worried the trailer might contain spoilers that rob fans of experiencing a surge of hollow disappointment while watching Solo for the first time.
Barzam wrote: I shared these in my plog, but I'd recently come across a toyline out of China that some of you might be interested in. There's definitely some possibilities for wargame conversions.
There's more stuff in the line, too. Check it out. You can find most of the sets on Aliexpress.
Well, this fella just turned up a couple of months early. It took only 10 days from China, tracked airmail then Royal Mail 48 at my end.
Deeply impressive model - a lot of articulation (even the thumbs move), solid construction. It feels weighty. And huge - it stands 20cm tall stood straight. The torso/head is bigger than a GW dreadnought.
Paintjob and weathering are decent - mine is a slightly browner colour than the one shown above, but not much.
The flaws - a couple of the joints are a little loose. and the whole thing separates at the waist. I can see that joint in particular becoming a problem over time. Buy hey, I'm using it as a gaming piece, it doesn't matter if I glue the joints eventually.
If you see this one at £28 again (price has been up, down and up again since I ordered), I'd highly recommend it.
I'll get a photo up when I can work out how to, uh, get a photo up ('Bucket victim).
So, you guys know how Bandai and Kotobukiya are both making 1/60 scaled Full Metal Panic models, right? Well, Good Smile Corp is throwing their hat in the ring as well. They're making a kit of the Mithril version of the rather froggy looking Savage mech. It also just so happens to be in scale with the other kits! The kit is part of their new Moderoid model kit series and will retail for around 2130 yen. At 1/60 scale, the kit will clock in at around 13cm tall.
The Bronekorpus tanks I ordered arrived today and the two things that surprised me was that the parts are really chunky and solid in a way that feels more like a toy than a plastic model, and that the weapons are excellently sized for combination with gunpla and similarly sized models.
So if you do both wargaming and robot building then a couple of these tanks are a good buy for sure.
Big news from Moebius Models! They are producing a 1:8 scale, 10 inch tall model of the EVA Pod from 2001: A Space Odyssey. This model will feature a detailed interior, and is designed for lighting. Look for this in late 2018 if all goes well. We’ll post more information when we have it. We are taking preorders in the CultTVman Hobbyshop
The newest Star Trek kit from Round 2 is a 1:1000 scale USS Defiant from Deep Space Nine. This is a snap kit and measures almost 7 inches. This model is designed for lighting, and features a dome base. The decal sheet includes pennants, registries, windows and colored panels.
Okay, so you remember those Not-Titanfall mechs I posted about from Chinese company Joy Toy? Well, two days ago they opened preorders for two new mechs and several pilot figures. Feast your eyes....
And here's some of the new pilot figures.
It should probably also be noted that nearly all of the armor on the pilots is removable, too. Just comparing these figures to the one I have, there's been a massive jump in quality. I'll need to grab some of these.
Some highlights for me are the Death Star II, the Space 1999 Hawk (basically the fighter version of an Eagle) and a 1/8 scale pod from 2001 Space Odyssey (worker Titan maybe?).
I need an orbital shuttle at some point - the Hawk is certainly in the running, though I fear the proportions would really not work. Maybe more of an orbital fighter I suppose.
kestral wrote: I need an orbital shuttle at some point - the Hawk is certainly in the running, though I fear the proportions would really not work. Maybe more of an orbital fighter I suppose.
The 1/72 or 1/35 Eagles can work, especially if you swap the cockpits. I also have 2001 Moon Bus I've been meaning to turn into a shuttle. Of of course Mantic's new fliers.
Is probably your best price, though they are an exclusively used dealer.
The source is
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=16_21 although some of their models are out of production, and require a fee for archive casting- and I must admit I'm not seeing exactly how to sort by in production and out.
Sculpts are not great, but that is 2 Dire Wolves, a Timber Wolf, 2 Koshis and 2 Novas. Sadly, the IS plastics will probably drive that particular option outside of the bargain range for your Clan needs.
Lol! good point, none of what I provided would help with that. The Madcat and Vulture might be Armorcast, or the Joyride models. I do not know the source of the rest.
kestral wrote: I need an orbital shuttle at some point - the Hawk is certainly in the running, though I fear the proportions would really not work. Maybe more of an orbital fighter I suppose.
The 1/72 or 1/35 Eagles can work, especially if you swap the cockpits. I also have 2001 Moon Bus I've been meaning to turn into a shuttle. Of of course Mantic's new fliers.
Zoks. Goggs too. Z'Goks, Hygoggs, and Kapools as well.
