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My brother is already predicting that the ghoul character is going to lose their daughter in the war and will later bond with the vault dweller as a replacement daughter. If it worked for The Last Of Us, it will work for this.

 Mr Nobody wrote:
My brother is already predicting that the ghoul character is going to lose their daughter in the war and will later bond with the vault dweller as a replacement daughter. If it worked for The Last Of Us, it will work for this.

Where he'll take his Ghoul mask off and we find out its really Pedro pascal playing Walton Goggins playing a ghoul all along. Can't have a surrogate child storyline without Pascal these days.

I've been burnt one too many times with video games adaptions to really want to give this a chance, I honestly thought that it would be awful the minute I heard they were going to try to do fallout as a show but this trailer had me hooked.

 RexHavoc wrote:
Where he'll take his Ghoul mask off and we find out its really Pedro pascal playing Walton Goggins playing a ghoul all along. Can't have a surrogate child storyline without Pascal these days.

He's actually playing one of the BOS guys, only he never takes off his helmet so he never had to be on set. He has a small baby gecko as a pet for some reason.

he's both clearly

This is probably one of the few instances where some post would actually make things better, because watching the trailer gave me the impression of a bunch of high profile cosplayers in nature reserves. There just isn't enough grit in the visuals to feel like Fallout.

 RexHavoc wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
My brother is already predicting that the ghoul character is going to lose their daughter in the war and will later bond with the vault dweller as a replacement daughter. If it worked for The Last Of Us, it will work for this.

Where he'll take his Ghoul mask off and we find out its really Pedro pascal playing Walton Goggins playing a ghoul all along. Can't have a surrogate child storyline without Pascal these days.

I've been burnt one too many times with video games adaptions to really want to give this a chance, I honestly thought that it would be awful the minute I heard they were going to try to do fallout as a show but this trailer had me hooked.

The positive thing is, they only need slightly better writing than bugthesda, not a difficult hurdle to take.

Also filler episodes full of just wandering around and clearing out procedurally generated dungeons would be on brand.


Looking forward to this. While I’ve not played the first couple Fallout games, I’m a fan of the franchise. And while Amazon has a track record of butchering things, I’ve got low expectations. And from a big sandbox setting, there are less sacred cows to worry about.

It's the West Coast. I want a 6,1% chance per episode that the protagonist dies to a critical hit and the show just ends.

 Geifer wrote:
It's the West Coast. I want a 6,1% chance per episode that the protagonist dies to a critical hit and the show just ends.

No, that will end the episode with a fade to black/roll credits, and then the next episode will start with some loading tip and rewind the story about 15 minutes and try again.

A thought crossed my mind: Who would be the best villain for a television show?

The Master is the most horrifying. That would be a lot of CGI super mutants though.

The Enclave? American fascists never go out of style.

The Legion and NCR dichotomy was fascinating in the game, but maybe a general audience wouldn't be able to take roman cosplayers seriously.

The Bortherhood of Steel weren't the most evil of factions, but they weren't great either.

I feel like The Master of the Enclave are the most natural fit, considering they hold a threat level above the other factions and are an easy enough to explain why other people in the Wasteland need to band together to fight against them. They also lend a bit of a slow burn build up compared to the other ones who don't have as much of an ominous foreboding presence that doesn't get into your face as much the Legion would be.

Personally I prefer the Master just because i feel the Enclave would come across as having SW Empire tropes on TV versus how elite they were supposed to be in game and I'd be worried how their Enclave troops would be turned into Stormtroopers, bad aim and all.

I have no proof, but I'm pretty sure I nuked the Master. It would be very rude of him to come back from being atomized.

I'm not sure the West Coast classics have much of a reason to appear given the show is set after New Vegas and Fallout 4. The Master is dead, the Enclave is gone, the Brotherhood is diminished. I don't know if we have a canonical end for New Vegas, but I assume the NCR is the only larger power left. I wonder if the Brotherhood of Steel, which the trailer makes out to have visible strength, are the East Coast guys coming back to reestablish their presence.

Also, do we know if the show is meant to have multiple seasons? Strikes me as a bit odd to have the vault dweller leaving the vault plot and sending her up against a larger power right from the start. I'd expect more of an RPG development where she saves the town from a raider boss or rampaging deathclaw as the season's climax.

For a bit of wider politics, the Brotherhood could easily take the apparent savior of the wasteland role only for the main character to figure out they're just a particularly well equipped band of raiders. Would provide a bit of back and forth with loyalties and the opportunity for the Brotherhood to make a comeback as something comparable to good guys in a later season when the real threat is revealed and the wasteland factions have to band together to stop it.

 Geifer wrote:


Also, do we know if the show is meant to have multiple seasons? Strikes me as a bit odd to have the vault dweller leaving the vault plot and sending her up against a larger power right from the start. I'd expect more of an RPG development where she saves the town from a raider boss or rampaging deathclaw as the season's climax.

For a bit of wider politics, the Brotherhood could easily take the apparent savior of the wasteland role only for the main character to figure out they're just a particularly well equipped band of raiders. Would provide a bit of back and forth with loyalties and the opportunity for the Brotherhood to make a comeback as something comparable to good guys in a later season when the real threat is revealed and the wasteland factions have to band together to stop it.

If they fallow the current trend they'll have a first season with semi-contained story ark. Closed enough to end their but with enough open plot lines to come back for another season. The vault dweller will need to defeat a large band of raiders but a turn in the plot will set the BOT as a future enemy. Maybe they start friendly and aid in destroying the raiders only to turn around and start pressing their authority. Demanding technology and resources as support for the cause.

Or they kill the ghoul character and some other mutants in a hail of bullets.

Matt Berry!

Was that someone in power armour punching a Yao Guai?


Quite hyped for this. Looks like it's ticking all the correct boxes.

This actually looks visually perfect.

I am personally very excited. And Walton Goggins is a god damn treasure! He might make the series by himself.

I'll be checking this one out.

Looks fun.

Looks really good AND they got the right music!

Wondering if the Brotherhood of Steel character is related to the Ghoul - great grandson perhaps.

The wide eyd wanderer looks great

Wow... this actually looks right.

Compared with just about every other recent adaptation of stuff that's had me going "But that's not x/y/z!"; this makes me want to replay Fallout 3... yet again.

Watched the trailer a couple of days ago and they absolutely nailed it. Very excited for this show.

Yeah, looks good. I'll take it.

Matt Berry is Mr Handy.

Therefore this show is great.

That’s just science.

The newest trailer is pretty underwhelming for me, and seeing the director's comment on basically not even trying to appeal to fans seems very offputting and a red flag on the whole show if that's his mindset towards it.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/03/14/amazons-fallout-director-says-it-would-have-been-a-fools-errand-for-series-to-try-and-appeal-to-fans-i-dont-think-you-really-can-set-out-to-please-the-fans-of-anything/#google_vignette

Are you ever going to please every single fan? No, of course not. That’s basically impossible.

But that’s not the problem here. The problem with this show, and with so many other recent adaptations, is that they’re not even TRYING to please the fans. They’re going after some “modern audience” that doesn’t actually exist, and then go out of their way to trash the fans that DO exist and tell them they suck for not liking the gakky adaptation.

We've seen this repeatedly with series like Halo and The Witcher, and it's weird because there have been well done adaptations that are clearly aimed towards the fans like Deadpool, Arcane, and Peter Jackson's LoTR but somehow these types of directors and creators seem to ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Heck, the first Sonic live action movie is a case study in doing things right in terms of listening to your core audience.

 Grimskul wrote:
The newest trailer is pretty underwhelming for me, and seeing the director's comment on basically not even trying to appeal to fans seems very offputting and a red flag on the whole show if that's his mindset towards it.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/03/14/amazons-fallout-director-says-it-would-have-been-a-fools-errand-for-series-to-try-and-appeal-to-fans-i-dont-think-you-really-can-set-out-to-please-the-fans-of-anything/#google_vignette

Are you ever going to please every single fan? No, of course not. That’s basically impossible.

But that’s not the problem here. The problem with this show, and with so many other recent adaptations, is that they’re not even TRYING to please the fans. They’re going after some “modern audience” that doesn’t actually exist, and then go out of their way to trash the fans that DO exist and tell them they suck for not liking the gakky adaptation.

We've seen this repeatedly with series like Halo and The Witcher, and it's weird because there have been well done adaptations that are clearly aimed towards the fans like Deadpool, Arcane, and Peter Jackson's LoTR but somehow these types of directors and creators seem to ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Heck, the first Sonic live action movie is a case study in doing things right in terms of listening to your core audience.

? They have the iconic music, the iconic look, as a huge Fallout 3 fan - this looks and feels like Fallout - to me at least?

 Grimskul wrote:
The newest trailer is pretty underwhelming for me, and seeing the director's comment on basically not even trying to appeal to fans seems very offputting and a red flag on the whole show if that's his mindset towards it.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/03/14/amazons-fallout-director-says-it-would-have-been-a-fools-errand-for-series-to-try-and-appeal-to-fans-i-dont-think-you-really-can-set-out-to-please-the-fans-of-anything/#google_vignette

Are you ever going to please every single fan? No, of course not. That’s basically impossible.

But that’s not the problem here. The problem with this show, and with so many other recent adaptations, is that they’re not even TRYING to please the fans. They’re going after some “modern audience” that doesn’t actually exist, and then go out of their way to trash the fans that DO exist and tell them they suck for not liking the gakky adaptation.

We've seen this repeatedly with series like Halo and The Witcher, and it's weird because there have been well done adaptations that are clearly aimed towards the fans like Deadpool, Arcane, and Peter Jackson's LoTR but somehow these types of directors and creators seem to ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Heck, the first Sonic live action movie is a case study in doing things right in terms of listening to your core audience.

I think you may have missed the point Jonathan Nolan was was making. He wasn't saying he's ignored what Fallout is about. Rather, he's saying they just tried to make a series based on Fallout without worrying about how fans might perceive it. That seems logical to me. If you have enough respect for the source material and keep that in mind while making the series the outcome should be that fans of the games are happy, but you don't have to keep thinking about how to appeal to them directly.

On the surface this seems to have nailed not only the look of the modern Fallout games but the tone as well, which is a good sign at this stage. Who knows, there may be some stupid plot running through the whole thing that has nothing to do with Fallout at all and ruins everything, but for now I'm just not seeing what you're seeing.

Apologies if this is already common knowledge.

But the release on 11 April is all the episodes.

Slipspace wrote:

I think you may have missed the point Jonathan Nolan was was making. He wasn't saying he's ignored what Fallout is about. Rather, he's saying they just tried to make a series based on Fallout without worrying about how fans might perceive it. That seems logical to me. If you have enough respect for the source material and keep that in mind while making the series the outcome should be that fans of the games are happy, but you don't have to keep thinking about how to appeal to them directly.

On the surface this seems to have nailed not only the look of the modern Fallout games but the tone as well, which is a good sign at this stage. Who knows, there may be some stupid plot running through the whole thing that has nothing to do with Fallout at all and ruins everything, but for now I'm just not seeing what you're seeing.

Very much this. While it was reported to make better clickbait, he was simply explaining the difference between making a show specifically for fan service and making a good show based on the property. The former results in pointless fan service, while the latter (assuming the application of sufficient talent and resources) results in a good show that will inherently please the fans without that being its sole purpose for existing.