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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I got my Kindle copy. No queue.

Weirldy, only the audiobook is on Apple Bookstore. Did the scalpers raid Apple Bookstore too!?

Might have to figure out my black library.com password and buy it there.

Edit:

Finished it. I really liked it and wasn’t nearly as bloated or repetitive as volume 2.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but at present, I’d rather not see a “Scouring” series. There are enough “present day” 40K characters that need some time in the sun and I’d rather see them get some focus for a bit before we delve back into 40K history.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

I do not for one second believe that Abnett was contracted to write one book but, oops, got so excited he wrote 3. He's a professional. If told to write one 500 page book he'll do that, if he wrote 3 it's because he was told to.

That's about as believable a claim as when Jervis said that Age of Sigmar was always intended to have point values.

Just to circle back around to this as my (non LE copy from Amazon) arrived today and there's an extensive Afterword where Abnett goes into this in some detail:

When I started work on Book 9, I honestly didn't know how long it would be. Nick Kyme, my editor, said 'Just write it. Don't think about word count.' About six months in, as I broke the 150K barrier and realised the end was still a good way off, I warned him. We both know that, past a certain count, it was physically, mechanically, impossible to bind a hardback edition. As a result, Book 8 has been published in three volumes.

He also goes into detail about how it is one novel, and the structural differences between that and writing four separate novels (he points out it's actually the size of four regular BL size novels, not three).
What is interesting though is it wasn't all delivered at once and then parcelled out, he was still working on the other parts when the first part came out, doing revisions on the earlier volumes while doing first draft on the latter ones.

Goto added notes to the Blood Ravens Omnibus about how he'd changed it to make it more lore-accurate. So, y'know...


Also, it is kind of an editor's job to edit out the bloated middle third of an already massively over- wordcount text...

 Lord Damocles wrote:


Also, it is kind of an editor's job to edit out the bloated middle third of an already massively over- wordcount text...

That editor is Kyme (who's books should never exist) so...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Goto added notes to the Blood Ravens Omnibus about how he'd changed it to make it more lore-accurate. So, y'know...


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I am now very curious about what the unedited versions contained!

 Lord Damocles wrote:



Also, it is kind of an editor's job to edit out the bloated middle third of an already massively over- wordcount text...

That is exactly what an editor's job is. And an author.

Still halfway through the Stalling and the Padding, and seen nothing that could not be cut.

I believe this accidentally swelled to 3 books about as much as I believe the Hobbit accidentally ended up with three films.

Well I’m coming to the final parts of Vol2. Gearing up to listen to Vol3 next.
Really enjoying it though actually.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/04/sunday-preview-the-black-library-celebration-2024/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/05/the-art-of-the-horus-heresy-the-best-covers-collected/

And limited to 6500 pieces, previous art books weren't so why this one? FFS.

Why the heck limit the HH art book?
The one currently guaranteed to likely sell out at launch!



That said I'm guessing its because GW have done a single bulk order and, like most art books, its a one and done deal. So its a limited item.

If it were made-to-order they'd have shipped later and I guess GW were worried MTO might have resulted in less impulse orders.

Meanwhile GW just doesn't really do long-term printing for Artbooks so its one-and-done every time. Which is so annoying when you miss out and you're left crossing fingers that it gets a reprint in the future.

and 6500 is a lot more than most 'limited' GW book runs, so it may be more of a case of this is how many they'd have had done anyway and are now just admitting it's effectivly limited

WTF limited run? Are they insane?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and 6500 is a lot more than most 'limited' GW book runs, so it may be more of a case of this is how many they'd have had done anyway and are now just admitting it's effectivly limited

It's wild that people are so upset about this one being a LE, when in years past for Black Library Celebration there's been similar Art Books which were effectively LE by virtue of being restricted to GW shops only in limited quantities.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and 6500 is a lot more than most 'limited' GW book runs, so it may be more of a case of this is how many they'd have had done anyway and are now just admitting it's effectivly limited

It's wild that people are so upset about this one being a LE, when in years past for Black Library Celebration there's been similar Art Books which were effectively LE by virtue of being restricted to GW shops only in limited quantities.

Naw I'm still annoyed by those too! I missed out on the Eldar ones ages back because I just wasn't into Eldar at the time and pop they come and go. I've managed to get a few like the Skaven and Chaos lore books that GW did, but by and large its a pain. The reprints they do are fantastic quality as good as originals; but GW/BL are just so random with it all. Sometimes it appears back, sometimes not but either way you could wait years whilst the 2nd hand prices are high

 Shadow Walker wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/04/sunday-preview-the-black-library-celebration-2024/

'The Black Library Celebration is also a time to reminisce over some of the greatest novels of the past, and James Swallow’s Deus Encarmine is high on the list'

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

These people.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/06/riders-of-the-dead-read-an-exclusive-excerpt-from-this-years-readers-choice-winner/

Yeah, I expect that almost all GW art books don't have a print run of more than 6.5k to be honest, and GW are just being slightly more honest than normal.
Did I read somewhere this book was solicited to third party retailers? If I don't have to deal with the GW website on Saturday that would be a godsend.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/04/sunday-preview-the-black-library-celebration-2024/

'The Black Library Celebration is also a time to reminisce over some of the greatest novels of the past, and James Swallow’s Deus Encarmine is high on the list'

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

These people.

Is this a real quote?

That’s almost on the level of praising CS Goto’s Eldar Prophecy. At least it wasn’t what’s-his-face’s 40k plagiarism of that Afghan war book.

They stopped hiring Swallow after his third book, right? Do they not remember why?

James Swallow wrote all of the Garro material, a pile of Horus Heresy novels including the Buried Dagger, several Sisters of Battle novels and a slew of short stories. So yeah, he got canned after the third book for sure. 🙄

I liked the time he wrote that Dante was going to sacrifice Baal because Fabius Bile let a dozen mutants loose in the fortress monastery.

Peak literature.

Or the time he completely retconned Sanctuary 101, then had the Obsidian Moon get blown up with a krak grenade, a Deathmark decide to use a sword instead of a gun, a Canoness tank multiple tachyon arrows to the chest, and Necrons using magic scrolls as gateways...

 BrookM wrote:
James Swallow wrote all of the Garro material, a pile of Horus Heresy novels including the Buried Dagger, several Sisters of Battle novels and a slew of short stories. So yeah, he got canned after the third book for sure. 🙄

I forgot all about those. Did he write the SOB novels with all of the Firefly references?

I did remember Nemesis, though.

I thought Garro was written by someone else, like the guy who wrote Flight of the Eisenstein.


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I don’t even dislike him as a writer. How Star Trek Titan novels were some of my favorite. I just didn’t think he was a good fit for 40k.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I forgot all about those. Did he write the SOB novels with all of the Firefly references?

Yes. Sisters Zoe and Inara of the Order of Serenity.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
James Swallow wrote all of the Garro material, a pile of Horus Heresy novels including the Buried Dagger, several Sisters of Battle novels and a slew of short stories. So yeah, he got canned after the third book for sure. 🙄

I forgot all about those. Did he write the SOB novels with all of the Firefly references?

I did remember Nemesis, though.

I thought Garro was written by someone else, like the guy who wrote Flight of the Eisenstein.


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I don’t even dislike him as a writer. How Star Trek Titan novels were some of my favorite. I just didn’t think he was a good fit for 40k.

…Flight of the Eisenstein was James Swallow

I could have sworn it was somebody else.

And do not forget his last Garro book which was horrible, and pointless.

More of a Rogue Trader era art fan, myself. Still waiting for GW to send that reprint.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
And do not forget his last Garro book which was horrible, and pointless.

I actually like that Garro went out like a champ. And set the stage that allowed the Khan to succeed (even if that wasn't Garro's goal).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/08/codewright-consults-our-kharadron-legal-expert-addresses-drekki-flynt-vs-everyone/

Free read https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/bl-celebration/ebook-black-library-celebration-2024-eng-2024.html

The BL Ork warboss is available to pre-order. Seems all orders will be honoured, but could take awhile to arrive. I prefer that.

Edit: didn't enjoy the GW website refusing to log me in to my account on mobile -_- £14 million well spent...