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Looking good Snrub! I actually quite like your bases How's your banner cooing along?

Shock - Thanks mate.

Zahnib - Thanks mate. The bases are still a bit experimental at the moment. Just nailing down the details now. And cheers for those pictures you PM'd me, they'll be quite helpful I think. Eh the banner is still soaking in simple green at the moment. It was giving me the gaks so I stopped looking at it.

Hey folks. Just a quick question today.

Started work on a squad of sniper scouts. I've got the base colours down but i'm a tad stuck when it comes to what colours the rifles power cables should be and also how to tackle the camo cloak.



Scouts are supposed to be "stealthy" (stealth is relative when your a 6 foot +, genebulked 13 year old wearing large slabs of ceramic armour plating ) So as you can see, i've kept the model fairly dark. Grey fatigues, rather then the usual DA scout beige, minimal metal parts and the only skin showing is the top half of his face, over which i've sculpted a rebreather. Because if you've ever seen the current scout heads, they're uhh... less then great.

But I digress.
- Power cables. I've not quite sure what to do with these. The studio paint job has them as red and green. I've already got enough green on the model, and reds not a particularly sneaky colour. The dark angel codex has them in yellow.
I was initially leaning towards doing at least one cable in hazard stripes but i'm sort of on the fence about it.
- Camo cloaks. An appropriate camo pattern would be an obvious choice but i'm not sure that's what I want. I find that camo at that scale either looks messy or detracts from the model itself. My current thoughts are to either just do it a single block colour or to try and give it a "shimmery" effect by utilising some wet-blending. Although what colour again eludes me.
Any input on either issue would be much appreciated.


Studio version scouts for comparsion

My thoughts for what they are worth, no to the coloured cabling and use the grey you are using for your bases as the base coat of the cloaks and then something like digital urban if you can keep it clean or something like this

Yeah, a digital pattern could work well on the cloaks. And possibly a very muted red and blue for the cables, I don't think hazard striping is the way forward if you feel a bright red is not stealthy enough

Very cool Unforgiven! You're taking yours a lot farther than I tend to go with mine, so they look a lot more intricate and cool!

I'd go with a gray power cable, and a green cable. Digital Camo. Looks much better on minis than other sorts of Camo.

@ingtaer - Your thoughts get given the same weight and consideration as anyone else who comments on my work. Using the same grey as the bases for the cloaks is a good idea. I like that.
@Monkey - You think muted Red/Blue for the cables, Ok. Hazard stripes aren't probably the wisest choice as a scout, no. But I like hazard stripes and the rifles are connected to big honking power packs so it sort of makes sense...
@ZergSmasher - Hey mate. Thanks for the comment. I'm not one of those people who's able to paint to different levels for different things. Every model gets the same level of paint job as every other one. Which is to say I use all my skill and hope it looks good at the end.
@Red - One for Grey/Green cable. Alright then.

So when people say digital camo, do they mean something like this?



Because that looks like it'd take a fair effort.
This will take some hard thinking about...


Anyway, thanks lads. Appreciate the thoughts.

Personally I was thinking more a scaled out version of the USMC urban;

Nice freehand work on the pred. Good enough that I’ll forgive you for poaching Ultramarines for your Angels.

Shaving off ’s. What’s the world coming to? This is why we have Chaos people!

(Not that I haven’t borrowed DA bits. Nice robes and swords you guys have over here)

On the scouts:
I like bright power cables. Yellow and orange/red on mine. If scouts are too subdued, they blend in to the terrain. You want the impression of stealth, but not actual stealth. I think of it like a hollywood version of a real life event. You can tell what it’s based off of, but with more car crashes and explosions.

I’m a big fan of tiger stripe camouflage. Fun, retro, and easy to do.

Hazard stripe cables sound cool, but again I am not totally sure if they fit in with the camo scheme. As for the camo that digital scheme looks murder to paint, then again it may be fun to give it a go?

As it is really liking the progress on your Dark Angels, best of luck.

What about a dull yellow for the power cables? It could act as a bit of a spot colour but also if its a duller shade it can still pass as 'stealthy'. Or maybe a muted bronze?
For the cloak I'd keep it to a camp pattern rather than using wet blending. You could try a simpler version of the digital cams pattern in the image you linked.
Looking good though, I like the rebreather

@ingtaer - So more greens and creams over varying shades of grey?
@Nevelon - Hey thanks! There was no shaving off of . Just filling them in with modelling putty.... And leaving them off in the first place...! I find it a little odd that after all this time the DA vets are (still) the only marine kit to get robes (barring characters). Tiger stripe camo eh? I'm open to ideas.
@Listentomewarriors - Cheers buddy. It does look like it'd be a bit tricky, for sure. But that's the fun part I guess, challenging yourself.
@Zahnib - Thanks mate, I was quite satisfied with the rebreathers. Piece of piss to do and covers up the janky heads. I did notice though that I forgot to cut the grills into 3 of them. But they're the 3 where the face is hidden, so it doesn't matter much!


PROGRESS!
Hey folks. Been a bit without an update. I've knocked off the scouts. I couldn't make a final choice on what colours to paint the power cables. So instead I took what you guys suggested and did one of each. (No yellow though, Zahnib. I'd already done them when I saw your post. The dull yellow could be an interesting choice though)
Photos aren't great, but they convey the point.







So from top to bottom we have...
1- I left the sgt's cables black. We'll call these the control batch.
2- Green/grey.
3- Red/blue
4- Orange
5- Hazard stripes. (not a great example to be honest as there is only 3 stripes....)

What one do you guys like the best? Any input or further suggestions are much appreciated.
Despite liking them, I can't really see myself doing the hazard stripes. They're a pain in the butt to do on a round surface.



OTHER STUFF.
Anyone have any opinions on 30K? I've currently got both the BoP and BaC waiting patiently for me to get around to them. But I don't really know if I should pick a legion and get painting or just add an extra 60 marines to my DAngles.
I skipped 6th and 7th edition so I have no real idea of how they play. I do know that they were much maligned for being bloated and unwieldy systems towards the end of their run, but on the other hand 30K looks like it's quite well balanced and not as immediately bloated as it's 40k cousin.
The other major factor is I don't know if i'd ever get in any games of 30k. My local GW has zero 30k presence. The manager reckons it's about 80% 40k, 20% everything else. There also aren't many/any gaming clubs in my area that i've been able to find, so that avenue is pretty tight.
Again, any thoughts would be appreciated.


Thanks for looking!

I like the red/blue and the grey/green....a purely personal preference for two colours with two cables.

And I can give zero input on any gaming questions, but think a mix of armour is always (pretty much) cool in one force.

Liking the scouts you've done, the rebreathers really help the model a lot! I think the cables look best with the red/blue scheme, it breaks up the model a bit and it doesn't clash with the overall model.
In regards to 30k, I've never played it personally but a friend of mine from uni has ~4k of Salamanders. He loves the game and it appears every legion has a decent shot at being competitive. Ad Mech (or whatever they are) aren't MEQ so they're a bit more powerful but expensive to collect. From what I've seen, basic marines are a tax for the big hitters of vehicles etc. as most marine weapons are anti-marines.
Rules-wise, I liked 6th and loved 7th edition. The rules were decent and it was pretty rewarding to play, something I can't say the same for 8th thus far. Big thing with 30k was the lack of "And They Shall Know No Fear".

I think out of the colour tests you've done the blue/red looks best

I like the red/blue.

If you don’t have a dedicated 30k group, I might not venture into it. If you want to do some research and build some models that are cross compatible, that’s cool. But I’d not want to invest a lot in guys who are just going to warm the shelf.

Solid looking Scouts, man. I like the red/blue as well. Last rule set I used for 40K was 3rd, so I am NOT the guy to be giving play advice.

Hah. So it looks like red/blue is getting a lot of love.


Started a trial on the camo cloaks using the image provided by Ingtaer.
The creamy colour is a bit on the nose at the moment, but i'm hoping with a 3rd and maybe 4th colour thrown in it'll settle down a bit.


Thoughts, comments, criticisms?

That's going to be pretty cool. The cream is super bright right now, but it sounds like you plan to knock it down a bit.

So I started the day by giving my hobby area a much needed clean up. This lead to me finding a bunch of old assembly pamphlets, which, after a brief hit of nostalgia, lead to me going on a small building spree.
I assembled 3 ravenwing black knighs, 2 dreadnoughts and did some modification on 3 ETB plague marines.





Aaand may have started work on something big and chivalrous.


Hmmm. Wonder what this could be.

 Snrub wrote:

Hmmm. Wonder what this could be.

Crashed Aquila Lander, obviously. Nice 4th edition throwback. Looking forward to seeing it scattered around.

Cool build pile. I should probably tidy up my workbench as well. Nothing like a clean space to help keep things moving.

How have you made that Aquila Lander?? It looks like you've made it from Green Stuff from a cast of the Battle for Macragge crashed piece.

@Nevelon - I suppose I have to accept the fact that you are indeed correct, it is a crashed aquila lander. Yes. You're not wrong about the clean workspace. I find it refreshing to have a clean and tidy workspace. Helps clear my mind a bit and gives me a better image of what i'm trying to achieve. It's just a shame that i'm a fairly messy person.
@Zahnib - You too are correct. I used instamould to make a copy of the part I wanted (the cockpit), filled it with greenstuff, waited till it's set, pop it out and it's ready to go.

A good start on the camo scheme, and I think you made the right choice with those cables. As for the building spree, excited to see what comes of it, the power picks on the Ravening look cool.

I really like how you made a copy of a piece of the aquilla lander piece. Those are great iconic pieces of terrain. I hope you'll find more uses for copies of the aquilla lander

Cool as, thanks for sharing! I've got mine stashed away in a box somewhere waiting for me to get around to it

Scouts are looking good! Loving the digital camo.

I've not seen one of those crashed aquilla landers in a while, smart move casting it!

Slick moves with the Instamold. Looking forward to seeing what will be joining it on the base.

@LTMW - Cheers man. I really like the corvus hammers on the black knights. Not sure how well they go on the table top, but i'm keen to (hopefully) crack some skulls with them, that's for sure.
@Syro - Thanks mate. The crashed aquila is a great piece of terrain, no doubt. It's a shame GW never got around to selling it as it's own kit. Great scatter terrain that offers a little cover and could be used as objective locations for narrative themed games, if that's your thing. I believe I will be using other parts of it for other Knight bases.
@Zahnib - I'm debating whether to repaint mine. It's been drybrused and is pretty rough looking. But I was a lot less skilled when I painted it up (12/13+) years ago?? To be honest i'd just probably drubrush it again, but I'd have to add battle/crash damage to it.
@Commander Cain - Thanks mate. I'm actually surprised at how few of them you see around the place. I have to figure people just stash them away as I can't believe there's not heaps out there. They were in a starter kit after all.
@Shock. - I thought the foot gave it away! Knight mate, Big shooty knight!


PROGRESS!

Speaking of...
Haven't had much time last few days, but I did get a little work done on the Knight base.
I've used car body filler to add some mass to the base. Make it look like the Aquila has been parked there for a few decades. Maybe a century or two. Still needs a little more added to the area under the domed window, but its getting there. It's also added a feth ton of weight to that side of the base. So he wont be super stable on anything but flat surfaces. .




Also forgot to post this the other day.
I've magnetised the weapons on the contemptor. Mostly because I thought it would be a fun exercise in using magnets. In addition to that, I had the intentions of repositioning a leg and swivelling him at the waist to make him more dynamic looking. However when I did I cut off the wrong leg and then forgot to cut him at the waist. So nuts to that idea.




That's all for now, thanks for looking!