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2013/11/08 11:39:07
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Aeneades wrote: Looks like someone else is trying to get out some AvP minis as well, doesn't appear to be licensed. Looks like they waited until this kickstarter to piggy back on the sudden demand.
Production --- the bulk of funds will be spent on sculpting, respective moulding and plastic injection by Caesars Miniatures.
Licensing --- payment of royalties to 20th Century Fox which owns the fights to all the film franchises. Packing --- All miniatures will be packed into a box for eventual shipment as parcel to each contributor's address.
Shipping --- Caesars' manufacturing facilities are based in Shenzhen and Dong Guan in China. I will ship the sets back to Singapore to be resent to each contributors using Singapore Post which I determine to be a more reliable shipping channel as compared to China's postal services.
Fees --- Indiegogo fees and third party (bank/paypal/credit card) charges account for at least 7% of funds
But yeah, it does seem.... oddly timed.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2013/11/08 11:42:18
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Just to clarify, Riquende's above quotes are from the indiegogo page that just popped up, and is likely a scam and will be taken down soon, imo (it's happened before).
Also, quoting this over from the last page. The 10-pound "Anytime" pledge now includes international shipping for add-ons! Woot! I love a creator who listens... and now they get all my monies
Prodos wrote:The Anytime pledge is £10 if you addon to it the £10 will cover the postage and you will still get 'Digital AvP Wargaming Rules and Thanks in the Exclusive Edition Alien vs Predator The Miniatures Game Rulebook.'
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2013/11/08 11:46:09
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
RiTides wrote: Just to clarify, Riquende's above quotes are from the indiegogo page that just popped up, and is likely a scam and will be taken down soon, imo (it's happened before)
Yeah, nothing about the IGG project looks in anyway legit, there's nothing there other than costume/prop pics and film stills.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2013/11/08 11:50:55
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Well I've sunk quite a bit into this I'm hoping the resin scenery will be good as I'm having a set of that! Looks like it could be really good if there isn't too much add ons and we actually get a decent stretch goal or too
SoulDrinker, see the discussion above- the IGG campaign is almost certainly a scam to hope people mistake it for the real thing (note that it is located in Singapore, for whatever reason). I think it will be removed soon...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, here's a direct link to the comment where they clarified about shipping being included on the "Anytime" pledge, just for reference
RiTides wrote: Just to clarify, Riquende's above quotes are from the indiegogo page that just popped up, and is likely a scam and will be taken down soon, imo (it's happened before)
Yeah, nothing about the IGG project looks in anyway legit, there's nothing there other than costume/prop pics and film stills.
I can confirm the IGG project is a scam. They do not have the licence to produce miniatures for AVP. Equally the face images of the humans from the films are not available.
Note there are no actual models shown on this or their other project.
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2013/11/08 12:04:16
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
That guy is clearly not the smartest scammer, he ran the IGG campaign as fixed funding which means he gets feth all unless people are actually stupid enough to give him $332,500..
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2013/11/08 12:09:36
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
RiTides wrote: Just to clarify, Riquende's above quotes are from the indiegogo page that just popped up, and is likely a scam and will be taken down soon, imo (it's happened before)
Yeah, nothing about the IGG project looks in anyway legit, there's nothing there other than costume/prop pics and film stills.
Even if it wasn't a scam, who wants 25mm miniatures?
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis
2013/11/08 12:20:46
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
2013/11/08 12:30:14
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Am I being completely blind or did they not actual say how much the pred-alien costs? (I presume it isn't free because they would have made a big announcement if it was)
Those free face huggers seem to be a last minute damage control addition.
2013/11/08 12:52:31
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
RiTides wrote: Just to clarify, Riquende's above quotes are from the indiegogo page that just popped up, and is likely a scam and will be taken down soon, imo (it's happened before)
Yeah, nothing about the IGG project looks in anyway legit, there's nothing there other than costume/prop pics and film stills.
I can confirm the IGG project is a scam. They do not have the licence to produce miniatures for AVP. Equally the face images of the humans from the films are not available.
Note there are no actual models shown on this or their other project.
Guess the ONE backer will be disappointed then At least he will not lose money, given the $332,500 threshold.
Concering the faces: Making a small female Latina gunner is allowed. Makes not that much difference at 28mm scale.
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Note the main game cost drops by upto 66% of original as the pledge amount increases
There could be an error with this table - looks like they let Excel copy the number sequence down rather than saying 5 free facehuggers on each pledge level...
Prodos, can you confirm if this is correct or edit this table to reflect the actual numbers?
I really like your product, but attention to detail and proof reading is not a strong point right
The Indigogo page is using renders from the promotional images from the AVP video game. All of the "product shots" are from the Hot Toys and Sideshow collectables range, which are rather expensive pieces, and are large action figure size or bigger which is why they look so good. A couple are full human sized mock up pieces. They guy is clearly trying to snag people by recycling good looking images but can't be bothered to even remove the sega logo in the corner of his images. What a tool.
Also
2.Licensing --- payment of royalties to 20th Century Fox which owns the fights to all the film franchises.
lol what an amusing typo.
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Paulson Games parts are now at:
www.RedDogMinis.com
2013/11/08 13:29:47
Subject: Re:Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
in this day and age the infant alien and the runner sculpts do not seem to have enough variety. There seem to be some differences between the models, but if all 10 infant Aliens included in the box have the same tail pose that´d look rather stupid.
Just got a response from Prodos reference the symbol on the dice:
Prodos Games Ltd
Nov 8, 2013
"This gaming system centres on getting lower than a target number hence the symbol is on the 1 position"
Prodos wrote:Antenocitis: I will incorporate a photo of an actual mini in the next update.
Hand Cast
Prodos wrote:Jake: humans attached to an alien goo covered wall begging to be capped, thats part of the resin scenery
Also this:
Aeneades wrote: Am I being completely blind or did they not actual say how much the pred-alien costs?
See the pic they added above!
Pricey, but if the sculpt is good I'll be in for several, since I'm not getting the base game and just adding in some of the more awesome aliens to my existing army . Can't wait to see the ones at 100K. Would also love to see a size comparison on these, if possible! Hope they're big
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2013/11/08 14:03:59
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
in this day and age the infant alien and the runner sculpts do not seem to have enough variety. There seem to be some differences between the models, but if all 10 infant Aliens included in the box have the same tail pose that´d look rather stupid.
The good news is that they are using resin. With some hot water the tails can be warped to slightly different poses. It will not be a totally different curve, but they will not look like copies of one another.
2013/11/08 14:05:13
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
I love a creator who listens... and now they get all my monies 
