Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game, Prodos loses license to AvP. p.266

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**Bellygrub**

Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Now to decide whether I want to spend even more to get some of those awesome Youngbloods...

The answer to this is always a resounding "yes!"

**AAN**

Worked under Chrome, but what a piece of NOT selfexplaining software.
It would fail any usability test in my company... Some advice how to use it would be welcome!

In the end I made it and saved my pledge.

**DaveC**

They did a video expalining how to use it in the update but they put awful music blaring over it so I think most people switched it off after a few seconds.

I recommend hitting mute before you watch this

https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront.net/assets/001/601/451/72a99214d986ce8de492eb5d3ead1187_h264_high.mp4

**CptJake**

My goodness, that music, what were were they thinking?

**Panic**

yeah,
I couldn't scroll down or select items using the computers at work running Internet Explorer :(

But at home using my Mac The pledge manager loaded up no problems on Chrome.

I stuck to the plan, no adding on more!
here's my locked down List.
I'm getting;

Spoiler:

I'll have three spare predators from the second boxed game if anyone wants to trade for aliens?

Panic...

**Pacific**

Bloody hell Panic, that is some haul!

Yes not the most user-friendly software I have ever seen, but am using Chrome and got it working OK.

At the moment I'm down for
Boxed game
5 x Warriors
Sergeant
Female Predator
Predator ship tiles

£32 left, torn between the queen, Predator Youngbloods or some more marines.

Also, has there been any concept of Linn Kurosawa yet? Have kind of given up now on a miniature of Machiko.. *sniff*

**DaveC**

Update #43

Feb 8 2014
Pledge manager >>>>>This is Rumour Control, here are the facts...<<<< Pledge Manager
4 comments
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Hello Kickstarters,

This was a really busy few days for us. Thanks to the awesome feedback from you guys, we have managed to update the Pledge Manager. Here is what we did:

1. You can add any other pledge you wish.

2. You can remove any pledges you don't like.

3. You can change the quantity of any chosen pledges.

4. We removed the bug with dissapearing strech goal freebies when choosing multiple pledges.

Remember that your password needs to be at least six characters long.

Because of the changes we have had to make, all backers that have already closed their pledges will have the option to change their pledge. If you are happy and don't want to change anything, just close calculator again. You will all be notified by email when this option becomes available.

Any pledgers that are still having problems with logging in, did not receive the invitation email or are having any other issues, please send an email to michal.pawlaczyk@prodos.co.uk.

Thank you all again for the feedback!

PRODOS Games LTD

They are making a bit of a mess of this I locked in yesterday owed £28 and paid it by Paypal pledge closed done. Today it's saying I owe another £10 . I'll have to wait for this unlock email to issue to see what's going on becuase I'm not paying them any more even if it means dropping something for £10.

**Siygess**

DaveC wrote:They are making a bit of a mess of this I locked in yesterday owed £28 and paid it by Paypal pledge closed done. Today it's saying I owe another £10 . I'll have to wait for this unlock email to issue to see what's going on because I'm not paying them any more even if it means dropping something for £10.

There were similar problems with the WZ:R Kickstarter - every time I went back to the pledge manager to change my pledge it would forget what I paid beyond my original pledge level and so I'd always get billed for the full price of the add-ons. Mark always got my refund sorted out pretty quickly so no complaints there but you get the feeling that when it comes to Prodos, pledge managers are more of an art than a science

**Ruglud**

Hmm, been watching from afar on the pledge manager issues thus far. Think I'll hang on a little longer before attempting to thread my way through that mine field and spend my pledge...

**Joyboozer**

Their second kickstarter and they haven't got the pledge manager right?

**Pacific**

To be honest, I would have been happy with a simple but well designed excel spreadsheet!

Used one for the Fractured Dimensions KS and it worked perfectly well.

**His Master's Voice**

Joyboozer wrote:
Their second kickstarter and they haven't got the pledge manager right?

Err, it works fine. I was done with mine in less than 5 minutes, including registration.

**DaveC**

Siygess wrote:
DaveC wrote:They are making a bit of a mess of this I locked in yesterday owed £28 and paid it by Paypal pledge closed done. Today it's saying I owe another £10 . I'll have to wait for this unlock email to issue to see what's going on because I'm not paying them any more even if it means dropping something for £10.

There were similar problems with the WZ:R Kickstarter - every time I went back to the pledge manager to change my pledge it would forget what I paid beyond my original pledge level and so I'd always get billed for the full price of the add-ons. Mark always got my refund sorted out pretty quickly so no complaints there but you get the feeling that when it comes to Prodos, pledge managers are more of an art than a science

Well I checked the numbers looks like I do owe another £10 the PM calculated incorrectly before yesterdays update so it left me with an outstanding balance went to pay it today to get this cleared and forget about it (couldn't find anything for £10 I really wanted to drop and I have part of another persons pledge as well). Payment made receipt received from Paypal but the total won't update on the PM and it still shows I owe £10. I've sent Prodos a message to get it updated.

I've used many Pledge managers from the very basic to the very complex but this is by far the worst I've had to use.

**Joyboozer**

His Master's Voice wrote:
Joyboozer wrote:
Their second kickstarter and they haven't got the pledge manager right?

Err, it works fine. I was done with mine in less than 5 minutes, including registration.

It's not displaying, locking people out and not saving options.

**His Master's Voice**

Joyboozer wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
Joyboozer wrote:
Their second kickstarter and they haven't got the pledge manager right?

Err, it works fine. I was done with mine in less than 5 minutes, including registration.

It's not displaying, locking people out and not saving options.

Well, I have not encountered any issues either now or with the Warzone pledge manager. I must be really lucky.

**Duce**

How do we (If able to) add to the total amount we pledge? I can't see the option and I'm stuck with a few quid left over which I'd like to up to get something.

**His Master's Voice**

Add whatever you want. If you're over your current pledge amount, the button on the top should read "to close pledge calculator you need to go to paypal". Note that it doesn't actually close the pledge when you pay the extra.

**Ruglud**

Took a punt at the pledge manager this week - found that I needed to have the page full screen otherwise I got an annoying overlap of some of the text, but once I figured that out it worked perfectly (IE10) - I'm just struggling to work out what I want, while trying to stay as close to my pledge level as possible (£155), if I go over this then it's less money to spend at SALUTE '14 !

EDIT: Just read in the KS comments section that there is going to be an update today...

**H.B.M.C.**

Ok I added both the tile sets. Or at least I think I did. I guess we'll find out.

**Ruglud**

Update #44 - For backers only --- Feb 16 2014

This is Rumour Control, here are the facts...

Hi there, as promised quick update:

1. Please contact michal.pawlaczyk@prodos.co.uk if you haven't received invitation email to the Pledge Manager.

2. Manufacturing. In order to meet KS deadline Prodos decided to invest in large manufacturing site in Poland. Our current UK site manufacturing capacity equates to approx. 1500 individual models per day. With new site, Prodos manufacturing capacity will increase by an extra 10000+ models a day. With this production output Prodos will complete KS requirements within approx. 4 weeks.

3. Subcomponents:

All subcomponents (packaging, board game components, cards) are ready to be sent to 20th Century Fox for approval. If all goes to plan, we should have subcomponents in print within next 4 weeks (approx. 9th March) Printing company estimated 4-6 weeks to complete our order (beginning of May).

4. Quality of masters:

Below you'll find images of Prodos masters, please notice: It's not a final product, only samples of Prodos 3D prints and they are subject to cosmetic changes.

**Forlorn**

They look great!

**happygolucky**

Love that Xenomorph

**Ruglud**

I wasn't going to get any of the hounds originally, but that update has pretty much changed my mind...

**Pacific**

That head does look very promising! Looks like it contains a load of detail, as does the body.

Think those hounds would probably make good Combined Army Preta actually, might add those to my pledge..

**Pacific**

Latest update

Project Update #45:
Posted by Prodos Games Ltd Black heart
Hi all, quick update:

1. We've completed Linn and Dutch sculpts, renders to be approved.

2. All models except Crusher and the Queen are now in "samples" stage (3D approved, printed and on its way to 20th Century Fox). (Crusher is in print as we speak, Queen to be reprinted this week).

I should have the Crusher test print in physical form in next 6h!!!! And he is Huge! (some sneaky peeks to follow)

3. We are in the early stages to set-up of a USA office- more info to come.

4. We will attend the show 'Salute 2014', we aim to have two tables set up with AvP!

5. We have moved to a 100% bigger facility in UK, which will allow much faster and higher volume throughput.

6. We are working on a complete overhaul of the website.

More to come next week.

Hopefully will make it to Salute this year and see some of this stuff!

**Ruglud**

Prodos Games Ltd about 5 hours ago

Hi all, the Prodos team is away in Poland until Sunday 9th of March. I am assuming that next AvP update will be around the 9th. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
All queries regarding Pledge Manager please send to michal.pawlaczyk@prodos.co.uk

**basement.dweller**

I can't seem to find the specs on the Queen. Does anyone remember the size?

**JoeRugby**

Update

Update #46 - For backers only Mar 14 2014
This is Rumour Control, here are the facts...
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Hi all, another quick update,

1. We are waiting for final approval on the model aesthetics, once we have it,we will share pics in high res.

2. Tiles: print/cut "proofs" are on their way to us, hopefully, for the final internal quality check (we were not happy with "deepness" of the black colour and that needed improvement).

3. Both Prodos' facilities, here in the UK and in Poland, are ready for production! - Exciting times!

4. Rules- sneaky peeks should be available in 4-5 weeks - lots is done, but there is a chunk left to do, namely: balancing and "environmental" cards/effects in the game.

4. And picture of the week, showing scale of individual models, please bear in mind, these are not final product and still subject to final approval ( potentially rescale/change etc.).

See you next week.

**DaveC**

You missed the best part

**JoeRugby**

Ha got me as I was trying to edit it in

I'm still worried, that the marines will be too tall for the rest of my collection (like the warzone models)

The crusher is starting to grow on me though