Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game, Prodos loses license to AvP. p.266

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**JohnHwangDD**

Perhaps the change is part of the reason Prodos is keeping the KS down due to "IP dispute"?

That way, backers cannot directly see what Prodos originally promised, nor reply via KS messaging?

**CptJake**

They can still send and receive (and read) messages via the KS messaging system (and we can still send them).

If you go to the (non-WayBack) KS page you'll see you still have the option of sending the creator a message. And they used the system 6 march to let us know how the rule book is the only thing not done.

**JohnHwangDD**

Sorry, should have written "comments".

**CptJake**

Yep, the comments are probably a HUGE reason they are keeping the page down at this point.

It is too public a forum to be flogged on and I'm sure they and Fox want to avoid that.

**Ruglud**

Not AvP news, but posted on facebook...

Prodos Games

Have you always dreamed of designing your own miniatures, of personalising them?
With Prodos Games' new service you can commission your own miniature head design (28mm heroic or 32mm). All you need to do is send us some photos and we will 3D render your chosen head. We can even turn you into an Orc, Dwarf, Elf or Zombie, for example. Once we have the render complete we will then vary the features so you could have someone screaming, concentrating, grimacing, thinking, happy or sad for example.

Once there are 5 variants we will print them on our state of the art printer and then cast them for you!

How much will all that cost, I hear you ask, hundreds of pounds/dollars/Euros right? WRONG...

For a 3D render of your chosen head, then sculpted in 5 variants and then 2 of each variant printed the cost is just £80.

If you want more heads we can cast a set of the 5 variants for £4/set by adding from the 3D shop.

For business/commercial printing and casting, please contact service@prodos.co.uk

http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/53-3d-design

**Nostromodamus**

This was mentioned in News and Rumors.

Apparently they want to sell custom heads so that the company can continue to employ 20-odd people.

Hopefully they're in business long enough to fulfill orders...

**warboss**

Sweet! I can finally get a custom fig head made of myself and my best friend by Prodos in the pic below.

**Nostromodamus**

Here's a mugshot I recently had done, I wonder if they could make somethng like it for me?

Spoiler:

**angelofvengeance**

OK Alex, we get that you're pining away for your AvP loot. (like the rest of us) But can we stop with the grumpy old man posts? Please?
We get that the project is massively overdue. We really do. Same boat and all that.

**Nostromodamus**

Oh ok then, I suppose so

With this forum being practically the only way to express my frustrations without Prodos editing them out, I guess I'm getting a bit carried away

**Pacific**

angelofvengeance wrote:
OK Alex, we get that you're pining away for your AvP loot. (like the rest of us) But can we stop with the grumpy old man posts? Please?
We get that the project is massively overdue. We really do. Same boat and all that.

Yes I feel the same way. Although, your torpedoing of the new Prodos thread about the face scanning was pretty impressive, don't think the guy posting there knew what hit him(!)

But yeah, enjoy reading your posts generally so would rather you didn't have to join the bunch of trolls and contrarians on my ignore list (although, don't think that really matters to anyone but myself!

)

**CptJake**

Alex C wrote:
Oh ok then, I suppose so

With this forum being practically the only way to express my frustrations without Prodos editing them out, I guess I'm getting a bit carried away

I've made some not so complementary posts on their official forums and have not had anyone delete or edit my posts. Having said that, Dakka is sure to get a LOT more views than the Prodos forums so the criticism will get a wider audience here. You are also less likely to have a slew of fan boys give you a ton of Reasons Prodos Is Great! responses that don't really address any legitimate issue you may actually have.

**Nostromodamus**

Disengaging grumpy old man mode....... now!

Why did winky Ork get changed to the Australian flag?

**HudsonD**

Ruglud wrote:
Not AvP news, but posted on facebook...

Prodos Games

Have you always dreamed of designing your own miniatures, of personalising them?
With Prodos Games' new service you can commission your own miniature head design (28mm heroic or 32mm). All you need to do is send us some photos and we will 3D render your chosen head. We can even turn you into an Orc, Dwarf, Elf or Zombie, for example. Once we have the render complete we will then vary the features so you could have someone screaming, concentrating, grimacing, thinking, happy or sad for example.

Once there are 5 variants we will print them on our state of the art printer and then cast them for you!(...)

Now to contact some model friends of mine...

**Prodos**

Pacific wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
OK Alex, we get that you're pining away for your AvP loot. (like the rest of us) But can we stop with the grumpy old man posts? Please?
We get that the project is massively overdue. We really do. Same boat and all that.

Yes I feel the same way. Although, your torpedoing of the new Prodos thread about the face scanning was pretty impressive, don't think the guy posting there knew what hit him(!)

But yeah, enjoy reading your posts generally so would rather you didn't have to join the bunch of trolls and contrarians on my ignore list (although, don't think that really matters to anyone but myself! )

**Lord Scythican**

Alex C wrote:
Here's a mugshot I recently had done, I wonder if they could make somethng like it for me?

Spoiler:

I thought that was hilarious!

**Nostromodamus**

Apologies to Prodos, I am being a bit unfair.

Serious question for Prodos though, are you still planning on resin miniatures for the core set, or will they be plastic like the retail versions you've been showing off?

**Prodos**

Alex C wrote:
Apologies to Prodos, I am being a bit unfair.

Serious question for Prodos though, are you still planning on resin miniatures for the core set, or will they be plastic like the retail versions you've been showing off?

Yes for the KS pledgers Resin

**Joyboozer**

And still soon?

**Prodos**

Joyboozer wrote:
And still soon?

Once we have the approval on the rules...its gogogogo!

**CURNOW**

For everything or just the box game ????

**biggusdoggus**

News tonight ..... (buried in the depths of a thread on Facebook - apparently there will be an official update on Monday/Tuesday)

Jarek Ever the team did fantastic work on proofing the rules and our graphic team managed to do all layout corrections as per the license owners request. The written (FINAL) content will be uploaded on Monday following "please review asap" email. We want this game to be available at the Salute 2015, and if we get the green light within 2 weeks time, it will happen (with pick up available at the Salute for backers, if we wont post it before 25th of April 2015).
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**Ruglud**

Posted earlier on Facebook

Jarek Ever:
the team did fantastic work on proofing the rules and our graphic team managed to do all layout corrections as per the license owners request. The written (FINAL) content will be uploaded on Monday following "please review asap" email. We want this game to be available at the Salute 2015, and if we get the green light within 2 weeks time, it will happen (with pick up available at the Salute for backers, if we wont post it before 25th of April 2015).

Ninja'd by biggusdoggus on this one...

Jarek Ever:
bear in mind as we are shipping it from Poland to hub in the USA then to backers, some delay comparing to EU backers must be taken in to consideration. However it won't go via slow boat to the USA but flight so we are talking here about weeks not months.

Jarek Ever:
it's a license products, and once we have green light, the license owner may expect a cash flow for this product to come as well, like immediately. The option we are considering is :IF we ship to a shop (retail) in the X town and IF any backers are from the X town we can ship for collection at shop (optional), this will kill any "retail got it 1st" problem and make all three parties (us, FOX, backers) happy, plus in the same time we will keep posting the backers copies (if they live like in the jungle or at the end of the world) . But its not confirmed as yet, our plan/intent is to service 1st backers then retail and we will discus with higher power to buy into this idea. so please don't panic or throw any excrements at us. As for an official KS update, it will come Monday/Tuesday.

Jarek Ever:
no worries, after all this time of that madness we are poo resistant internet hate us but I assume we will regain the love once we have the game out!

Jarek Ever:
at least we will have it after 1.5y in development, I still waiting for my KS to arrive like 2,5y (KD), so I know that pain.

Backer question: If Salute does come off, can I ask a friend to pick up for me?

Jarek Ever:
yes

Jarek Ever:
PDF is for Wargaming it will come later, the Board game Rules we will make available to public for free (like we do with Warzone Rules) as a try before purchase Prodos' Scheme.

**Nostromodamus**

So no wargame rules in wave 1 then? Hardcover book wave 2?

**biggusdoggus**

Alex C wrote:
So no wargame rules in wave 1 then? Hardcover book wave 2?

Correct. Wave 1 is the Boxed game only. No add-ons, no wargames rules (either in hardback or PDF), just the boxed set. Not sure whether they will ship the KS exclusive berserker and the bonus minis such as the facehuggers - probably not since they may have to wait for retail packaging, which is one of the outstanding wave 2 tasks.

**Joyboozer**

Wow, so wonderful you're poo resistant Prodos, it slides off you and on to your backers.
Your attitude toward your backers is disgusting. We backed this project on your promises, to break all of them ( your fault or not) and then to act like criticism is unjustified for doing so is outrageous.
License owner may expect a cash flow, not that you're desperate for one?
You are a fething disgrace. Show some fething humility.

**Nostromodamus**

Joyboozer wrote:
Wow, so wonderful you're poo resistant Prodos, it slides off you and on to your backers.
Your attitude toward your backers is disgusting. We backed this project on your promises, to break all of them ( your fault or not) and then to act like criticism is unjustified for doing so is outrageous.
License owner may expect a cash flow, not that you're desperate for one?
You are a fething disgrace. Show some fething humility.

They should just not let Jarek post stuff online.

It never works out.

**Joyboozer**

Or make decisions, does he honestly believe the bs of selling it at retail first, at which time you can pick it up, saving them postage is great news for backers?
No mention of how long after retail they'll post out backers rewards, no mention of wave 2, or why there is still a wave 2 after all the delays.
Goes back to the bs of updates showing plastic sprues, retail first was always the plan.

**angelofvengeance**

Tin foil hat much? lol.

**Pacific**

Alex C - Yes think the plan has always been to release the wargame later on after the board game release.

biggusdoggus wrote:
News tonight ..... (buried in the depths of a thread on Facebook - apparently there will be an official update on Monday/Tuesday)

Jarek Ever the team did fantastic work on proofing the rules and our graphic team managed to do all layout corrections as per the license owners request. The written (FINAL) content will be uploaded on Monday following "please review asap" email. We want this game to be available at the Salute 2015, and if we get the green light within 2 weeks time, it will happen (with pick up available at the Salute for backers, if we wont post it before 25th of April 2015).
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Massively selfish on my part, but that is brilliant news for me. If it's possible to pick up from Salute that will be outstanding.