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I'm pleased to see Prodos moving on with new ranges and that this isn't a KS they are apparently not going that route again, or at least in the foreseeable future).

Why am I pleased when I'm one of the AvP backers? Because I want Prodos to remain financially stable and a new straight to retail licensed product means they should generate cashflow and ensure that when the Fox approval finally arrives, the company will still exist and have readily available funds to complete the KS and deliver our pledges...

So to Prodos... (I have no idea though what StarCraft is and to be honest no interest to find out...)

Hah! I'm going to tell you anyway:

Video game developers (Blizzard) approach Games Workshop to make a Warhammer game. Games Workshop refuses, so they make the game anyway with "off-brand" Games Workshop elements - Warcraft.

They make a Sci-Fi version of the game - StarCraft, which (shockingly) has some similar elements to 40K. This game is insanely popular, as is the sequel, and both have rabid fanbases. This has the potential to be a real moneyspinner for Prodos!

But even if this is a trickled retail release rather than a stand alone box game its not going to be bringing cash flow into prodos for a long while yet .i would be amazed if its released this year. So isn't really going to help us and in fact could delay avp even more if they decide to divert staffing to this new project.

It is my understanding that Prodos has practically all the AvP models done.

They are also doing work for 8 other KS projects, as well as their new custom head thing.

1 more product line isn't likely to delay AvP any more than it already is.

I found this interesting tongue in cheek article about video game PR that I thought might be somewhat appropriate given the circumstances.

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RamiIsmail/20130716/196346/Five_PR_Tips_Indies_Really_Shouldnt_Read.php

 Ruglud wrote:


So to Prodos... (I have no idea though what StarCraft is and to be honest no interest to find out...)

Say WHHHATTTTT !!!


I absolutely LOVE Starcraft, can't imagine not knowing about that game!

Played it a lot when I was younger, then again when in living in Korea (it's practically a national sport there).

Any news from Salute yet?

I'm sure someone will post something... soon.

 warboss wrote:
I'm sure someone will post something... soon.

They probably have to get Fox approvals first

BoW have some pictures of the AVP demo table

http://www.beastsofwar.com/liveblogentry/alien-vs-predator-from-prodos-makes-an-appearance/#comments

AWESOME!

As cool as that is, I would much rather have seen the board game being demoed so we could see the components and maybe get an idea of the finalized rules.

Does anyone recognize any figures they had not previously shown?

From the link wrote:It might still be hard to get your hands on the game itself but the Prodos guys have bought along some amazing miniatures from the Alien Vs Predator game to show off…

'Hard to get' would be an understatement.

Didn't see any Young bloods or clear resin preds and underwhelmed that none of the board game elements where on show (asides form the figures we've already seen)

What they had though was all very nicely painted up and looked damn fine...

Didn't bother talking to the Prodos chaps as what was there to say really...
[placeholder for pictures - waiting for them upload...]

The minis do look nice and refreshingly truescaled.

Apologies for blurry images... I really need to work on taking better shots...

Great! Thanks Ruglud!

Lazy union colonial marines! There are boxes, crates, and barrels to be stacked and the power loaders are just lounging around there on a smoke break! Thanks for the pics.

That's erm.. A LOT of Xeno's!!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
That's erm.. A LOT of Xeno's!!

It's about as many as I have ordered

Ruglud, I did wonder who that was riding on a pogo stick while taking photos

Absolutely cracking looking stuff on the stand, I didn't see a game in action unfortunately, the pyramid one prior to setup (which looked incredible) and the end of the colony game, where it looked like a couple of poor marines surrounded by a swarm of aliens. I did hear a comment of 'yep, he's dead' of one marine being removed that had been attached in melee by an alien. So, looks like they got that bit right at least!

What I will say is that the level of detail on the standard marines is absolutely fantastic. In a different league to the likes of GW Cadians or Mantic Corporation (although I guess you would expect that considering price). The posing and stuff is spot on as well, you can tell that whoever has sculpted them is really a big Alien fan, there's lots of neat little touches on them.

 Pacific wrote:
Ruglud, I did wonder who that was riding on a pogo stick while taking photos

Yeah - I don't have a steady hand and the pogo makes it 100x worse I need to look at my son's photos on his Ipod - for an 11yr old, he's a much better picture taker then me

 Ruglud wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Ruglud, I did wonder who that was riding on a pogo stick while taking photos

Yeah - I don't have a steady hand and the pogo makes it 100x worse I need to look at my son's photos on his Ipod - for an 11yr old, he's a much better picture taker then me

They were however immeasurably better than my own photos, as I didn't take any !

Did you get a chance to play the game at all or see the mechanics in action?

No, I never really bother with participation games - far too much to see elsewhere in the show! I will say though that everyone playing seemed to be enjoying it so that's a good sign...

It was great to see the models close up and personal. I too back the comments about the detail on the models. The smart gunner looked like a 28mm scale Private Mark Drake, really spot on with the modelling. The Power Loader I thought was a little small, but didn't detract from it being an awesome looking model.

The PRODOS guys generally shook anyone's hand who said they were a backer and thanked them for their patience. Confirmed that it will be in 2 waves, base game first and then all the packaging for the add-ons needs to go through the same approval process. Due to the Contractual Issues "Soon" is all they could officially say.

I didn't play the game, and they were only given the green light to actually show anything the night before from Fox. I really got the sense that they were as frustrated as we all are about the whole situation. They have all this stock sitting in a rented space they can't send out.

Bioptic wrote:
Hah! I'm going to tell you anyway:

Video game developers (Blizzard) approach Games Workshop to make a Warhammer game. Games Workshop refuses, so they make the game anyway with "off-brand" Games Workshop elements - Warcraft.

They make a Sci-Fi version of the game - StarCraft, which (shockingly) has some similar elements to 40K. This game is insanely popular, as is the sequel, and both have rabid fanbases. This has the potential to be a real moneyspinner for Prodos!

I'm a big SC fan and I really do hope Prodos/Blizzard produce a line of nice, in-scale to other models in the line StarCraft miniatures series in near future.
That said, I still remember the local big-box game store listing StarCraft:Ghost being available a month or so after I would be gone overseas (somewhere around 2005?).
Still never managed to pick up Ghost

Does anyone know if you can still get one of the kickstarter boxes through them? Wasn't there going to be some problem where they had too many?

I'm reasonably sure there's more than a couple folks willing to sell their pledges at a discount at this point...

The Prodos forums have a 'I want to sell my pledge' section, and folk have also used to say "I want to buy a pledge".

http://forum.prodosgames.com/viewforum.php?f=46&sid=da9b17419496dbe074ae43ecca155697

Upon finding this thread...I started with a "This looks really cool!I wish I had known of this when it was around!" attitude, and 158 pages in 2 days later, I'm quite a bit more skeptical now.
If this EVER hits retail, would you guys recommend buying it? I feel somewhat uncomfortable giving Prodos money at this point, even if it gets me neat predator figures, but the lack of sleep and 158 page long tale might be affecting me.

If you just want the figures, yes, Prodos does nice minis

If you want the game to go with them, wait and see what the KS people think about it, I think its still up in the air whether the game will deliver (and if it does whether it will work well with all 3 factions)