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It really depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for a Good Board Game, I would wait for review of the board game to pop up on BGG and other sites.

If you are looking at it for more of the war-game perspective, waiting for those rules to come out and get reviewed would make sense.

If, as mentioned above you are looking for cool minis, Prodos does good resin figure from what I've heard (I don't have any yet) but how the retail version's plastics will be is not known. Of course they will also sell resin figures to support the game, so waiting and grabbing just the figures you want (and maybe using one of the many rule set alternatives if these rules don;t cut it) may make sense.

Personally, I don't plan on giving any more money to Prodos than I have already spent, and am very strongly considering dumping everything I eventually get from them (partially due to not being too happy, and partially due to moving to a MUCH smaller place at the end of this month).

Jake

jayko657 wrote:
If this EVER hits retail, would you guys recommend buying it?

If it hits retail, then you're bypassing all of the angst of paying and waiting - all of that delay and uncertainty is gone. You simply pay your money and take your toys in one easy transaction, so it just becomes a question of whether you think $XX is a fair price for whatever Prodos offers at that time.


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 CptJake wrote:
Personally, I don't plan on giving any more money to Prodos than I have already spent, and am very strongly considering dumping everything I eventually get from them (partially due to not being too happy, and partially due to moving to a MUCH smaller place at the end of this month).

I suspect there will be quite a few pledges for sale if/when Prodos finally delivers - there is always a fair chunk of buyer's remorse, and AvP generated more than its fair share of it.

Is it soonTM yet? I'm trying to plan out my purchases for the forseeable future.

Shhhhh! You done spooked 'em! Now we won't see 'em again until nigh onta next snow season.

Unfortunately no updates as the last Fox approval is still pending for the rulebook (that's all holding up shipping of the boxed game - wave 1), but a little bit of info from Jarek on Facebook;

Jarek Ever
I think the Alien Warriors are the most complex models to design and cast, even companies with 20y of casting experience where asking questions "how we have cast its tail ?"... it only shows how much experience we have gained in last 2 years.

As for update, well, Fox is again silent, despite their promises to come back to us within 24h... Frankly, we are too small for them to be recognises as a serious business, thus, we have been always on the bottom of the list... but we keep sending emails and try to reach peoples over the phone for some explanations why it is taking so long. Hopefully more info next week.

Jarek Ever
production of the board game started last week (all printed components except to the rulebook) while we are waiting for rulebook approval.. however manufacturer won't be able to store more than 1000 unfinished board games (without rulebook) due to handling, thus, will have to say them to stop at some point (and pay handling and storage fee until FOX will be so kind to review rulebook materials)... so in deep faeces once again, thank you FOX, but no worries we will manage, as always. I'll get some photos from the factory once its running at full steam.

Also please don't get excited, as we have been "close" many times, they still want to see a finish board game (apparently only see it) before we send it out. Then are the Add-ons, most of the models are approved, except to revised tunnels. At this point I've requested to work with USA HQ on add-ons instead UK branch, hoping that the average response time will be less than is currently ... yeah, its 6 weeks currently, stupid.

Anyway I am probably talking too much again but at this stage frustration is taking over logical thinking.

Very frustrating for all involved.

As a side note for any Alien fans (while we are waiting!) I've just got my hands on the game Alien: Isolation on the PS4 (am a bit late joining the next-gen party).

The game is absolutely, fething incredible. They have absolutely nailed the atmosphere of the first film, probably up there with Doom 2, Mario 64 as an experience that just blows you away the first time you play it. I honestly can't play it for more than an hour, if you've got a good sound system and can play in a dark room it is just so frightening !

So, a bit OP but I thought definitely worth mentioning while we are waiting !

Yup, very good game. There was a thread going in the Video Games forum but it's been quiet for a while.

 Pacific wrote:
As a side note for any Alien fans (while we are waiting!) I've just got my hands on the game Alien: Isolation on the PS4 (am a bit late joining the next-gen party).

The game is absolutely, fething incredible. They have absolutely nailed the atmosphere of the first film, probably up there with Doom 2, Mario 64 as an experience that just blows you away the first time you play it. I honestly can't play it for more than an hour, if you've got a good sound system and can play in a dark room it is just so frightening !

So, a bit OP but I thought definitely worth mentioning while we are waiting !

As much as I love aliens, I can't play the games - they set me on edge. Something about being the player is just too much for me to handle. However, I have been able to sit back and watch someone play through Isolation on YouTube, and it is a fantastic game/story.

I have only been able to play for short periods, in a lit room

I saved the game to play with some friends over the weekend (we are all big Alien fans) to start from the beginning and we were crying out throughout it, it was hilarious but also pant-gaking at the same time! The bits when you were looking at the dot approaching on your motion detector, desparately looking for a hiding place, are just amazing. In the scene where the Alien is killing a bunch of people in a room (really, he first time you see it in full) and it had sloped off, my friend who was playing at the time said "that's it, it's gone, the music has stopped" and just started stomping around the room and looting the dead bodies. Obviously thinking it was scripted. Moments later he turned around just as the alien grabbed him from behind, the thing's mouth opened and we all screamed like a bunch of schoolgirls

Have fun once you reach medical.

 BrookM wrote:
Have fun once you reach medical.

I used to think Medical wasn't too bad. Got through it first time, no deaths.

Do you think I can do it again though? Aw hells no...

Jarek Ever wrote:

This is rumour control...IT IS NOT a rumour!
X has finally marked the spot...that last elusive signature is in. We at Prodos Games have wasted no time: all outstanding components for the Alein vs Predator The Hunt Begins board game have been put into production. Once we get back from the printers we will look at giving a clear schedule...BUT all is good, all is actually great...and it’s Friday...and finally its about time to celebrate with some beer...
AND ALIEN vs PREDATOR, THE HUNT BEGINS the board game is in production!
AvP: THB includes: Models: - 10 Infant Aliens - 5 Stalker Aliens - 3 Predators - 5 Colonial Marines
Dice: 3 D20 Dice
Cards: - 2 Alien Stat Cards - 3 Predator Stat Cards - 5 Colonial Marine Stat Card - 20 Environmental Cards - 20 Mission Cards (Advanced game) - 60 Strategy Cards (20 for each Faction) (Advanced game)
Board game Tiles: - 32 Straight Corridors - 8 Crossroads - 8 T-Shape - 8 L-Shape - 10 Dead-end - 8 Air Vent Tiles - 7 Rooms (Lab, Escape Capsules, Armoury, Bridge, Hibernation Room, Engine Room and Predator Pod)
Other Peripherals: - 1 Flame/Acid Spit Template (AvP Unleashed) - 151 Wound, Ping!, Activated, Sentry, Hide and Objective Tokens - 20 Door Pieces
... a lot, almost 6 kg (13 lbs) of goodies!

In short, final signature is confirmed and they are now in production of all outstanding Wave 1 components.

About god damn time lol Yay!

They abandoned the whole "resin for KS, plastic for the rest" thing a year back, right? It's resin for the forseeable future for everyone, correct?

 warboss wrote:
They abandoned the whole "resin for KS, plastic for the rest" thing a year back, right? It's resin for the forseeable future for everyone, correct?

Nope, they never abandoned that.

It's resin for the KS, and plastic for the retail box set. Wave 2 will also be resin for KS, and all models will be available going forward at retail in resin. They've never confirmed either way whether they'll do blister packs/boxes of models in plastic in future as well (or indeed replace resin with plastic in the long term.

So for now at least, everything will be available in resin.

There will (likely) be some retail sets initially that have resin due to the over manufacture, but that's definitely not the long term plan.

Before they took down the KS page, Prodos did confirm the initial 'retail version' would have resin figures. It was stated this was due to minimum print run numbers being larger than the quantity sold during the KS and when they opened up their webstore to sell KS pledges after the KS.

They have never (that I have seen) changed that.

We have seen sprue designs for the 3 game box predators, so we can probably assume eventually retail versions will have plastics.

It will be interesting to see how much difference there is between the Bespoke KS Edition and what gets released both as the initial retail version and the eventual plastic containing retail version.

Thanks for the confirmation as that is what I remember reading before they fraudulently took down the KS page. I'll wait for the plastic retail version in that case or simply go without if they never get around to it. I doubt they'd gimp the later plastic version given the inevitable outcry in doing so. It was one thing to have special bonuses for the KS backers only but they lost that card in my book when the exact same box was announced to be sold later a year after via the pledge manager (and possibly at retail). Once they put that on the store shelves, I don't see them scaling it back in terms of model or chit/card count. It looks fairly bare bones as is.

Just saw this on BoW. Yay!

AT FETHING LAST ! !

It's OK now, it's OK, you can relax now...

@Warboss - if you can get your hands on a resin based boxset, I'd do so. The plastic we've seen is good for sure, but the resin is most definitely much nicer, and unlike other resins manufacturers that I could mention, from what I've seen (having held some minis at UK Expo last year) the resin compound Prodos have chosen is fairly forgiving. Certainly it won't break as soon as you look at it.

@CptJake - my bet is the only difference between KS and retail box sets will be the material the minis are made from. My flabber will be well and truly ghasted if anything else is different. I know (and fully understand) how you probably feel about that, but I guess it is what it is. It seems likely that without our backing, Prodos would never have got this off the ground, so personally I'm not going to get too angry over it if retail buyers end up benefiting from the majority of what the KS backers get.


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don't forget though guys, this is ONLY WAVE 1

Wave 2 needs its packaging to gothrough acceptance, and we can be fairly sure that a lot of work needs to be done with the wargames rules. We've just waited over 4 months for the box set rules to be approved, so it seems more than possible we could still be here waiting for the rest of our stuff as Christmas approaches.

biggusdoggus wrote:
the resin compound Prodos have chosen is fairly forgiving. Certainly it won't break as soon as you look at it

Yes, Prodos resins are very nice indeed.

biggusdoggus wrote:
Wave 2 needs its packaging to gothrough acceptance, and we can be fairly sure that a lot of work needs to be done with the wargames rules. We've just waited over 4 months for the box set rules to be approved, so it seems more than possible we could still be here waiting for the rest of our stuff as Christmas approaches.

At least we'll have something to be going on with until then!

 Alex C wrote:


At least we'll have something to be going on with until then!

Oh absolutely, it was a statement of fact more than a complaint. I know there are some out there who aren't fully up to speed with the 2 waves thing, and so might expect all their stuff to arrive presently.

biggusdoggus wrote:

 Alex C wrote:


At least we'll have something to be going on with until then!

Oh absolutely, it was a statement of fact more than a complaint. I know there are some out there who aren't fully up to speed with the 2 waves thing, and so might expect all their stuff to arrive presently.

Gotcha

As an aside, I do notice that the picture shows much better board game components than we have seen before. Those tiles look awesome! Much nicer than the prototypes.

 Alex C wrote:


As an aside, I do notice that the picture shows much better board game components than we have seen before. Those tiles look awesome! Much nicer than the prototypes.

but they don't appear to have done anything to improve the connecting lugs between tiles - they still look like they won't hold together that well, and assuming the tiles are double sided (as promised) you'll only be able to use either side in its entirety rather than mix and match because of the lug design.

I think that's more to do with the light catching on the joints than effectiveness of the lugs. And I don't know what surface you'll be playing on biggusdoggus, but I'll be playing on a nice flat table so they hold together nicely

If anyone picked up an extra queen or other big model, lemme know. I'm regretting not....

Guess i will have to pic a box up from retail to get on with as i dont hold any hope of getting my pledge before xmas .

 cincydooley wrote:
If anyone picked up an extra queen or other big model, lemme know. I'm regretting not....

the pledge manager is still open should you wish to top up and add those models in.

biggusdoggus wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
If anyone picked up an extra queen or other big model, lemme know. I'm regretting not....

the pledge manager is still open should you wish to top up and add those models in.

It is?!?

You don't happen to have the link, do you?