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So I guess I'll be picking mine up at gencon.....

A guy on the FB page posted this picture of a Marine mini, and recipe for the colour scheme. Was looking around for what scheme to go with and this seems like a pretty good start



Recipe:

That's a nice scheme

Here's another great painting tutorial: http://dawnofthelead.com/2010/05/24/very-tough-hombres-a-colonial-marine-painting-tutorial/

Very nice looking model and paint scheme.

So once I again I here of more Uk folks getting box sets from FLGS bet not heard of one KS delivery. Anyone would think none had sent to backers so far.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Anyone would think none had sent to backers so far.

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

What? You demand to be serviced?
C'mon, where would be the profit in that? They already got our money, more than a year before retail (and hell knows how long before the rest of the stuff comes).

Say, when did the Nostromo launch? Maybe that's the anticipated fullfilment year ...

Any response on Facebook to that question or do they delete the comments?

delete comments? they delete backers. customer relations is not a concept they are familiar with.

I just re-read the latest KS message from Prodos and the following got me wondering:

Prodos wrote:September is the reconfigured Retail launch for the USA and Canada. No more boxes will be shipped to US shops before then.

So....

What are the odds that after GENCON, instead of shipping US backers their copies, they realize the retail orders will need to be packed, palleted, and ready to get into the retail distro chain because they will have some contractual obligation to have them to stores by some date. As a result, US backer copies will be even later (once more are printed up).


Nah, that could never happen.

For something that didn't really have that many backers (when compared to other projects) this is taking sooo friggin' long.

When backers core boxes get pushed to the back of the queue and retail is widely availible I wonder why collections from FLGS couldn't be arranged. The game doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves either. Probably because anyone interested backed it orgiginally or had plenty of opportunity to preorder a kickstarter copy a year later on Prodos' webstore.

PomWallaby wrote:
When backers core boxes get pushed to the back of the queue and retail is widely availible I wonder why collections from FLGS couldn't be arranged. The game doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves either. Probably because anyone interested backed it orgiginally or had plenty of opportunity to preorder a kickstarter copy a year later on Prodos' webstore.

Thats actually a good point. Were a relatively close knit community within the wargaming world, and the bad press the AvP kickstarter will be getting will have been noticed by those not part of the event.

So that will have been going round in peoples perceptions prior to retail launch. So now we have the game released to retail and its not doing massively well, and there is no word of mouth to tell people its a good game etc, that the initial backers would have done with the game if they had originally received it before retail.

I wonder if its all goin wrong for them and we may never see the stuff, i know its a bit doom and gloom, an TBH they are probably fine, but what you see going on and can put together from updates all leaves a poor taste in the mouth

Just about what I said months ago.
Prodos may be good at minis - not so good at tiles and haven't taken a look at their rules by now.
But in understanding their customers, they are just as bad as in communication.
Staying true to your promises is another version of marketing. Right at this moment, the only one with worse marketing is Kim from North Korea.

A little example, using myself: I love Robotech, it's what brought me into anime (please, no ranting that it isn't a true one, because it butchered three shows - I know that) and the english language. I learned mainly by watching stuff like Fun Factory, DJ Cat Show and the like on the available british channels. When I heard of PBs KS it was too late and I considered getting the game later with this and that and whatnot.
But PB has up to this day done everything they could, to prevent me from doing so. No answers to mails, being late and so on and on what you can read in the comments of their KS. Dunno if I'll ever get it (It's unsure, the backers will ever get all their stuff.
Them being late wouldn't have been a concern of mine, hell, I'm waiting for years one of their sourcebooks to get from preorder to available. But as it seems, a lot of companies simply seem to forget, where their money is coming from.
Or in case of Prodos, who's money they already spent.

Well my local FLGS will be getting the box game in on Friday selling for £67.50. Will my copy get to me first? I seriously doubt it.

What's annoying is that they had 95% of the figures ready 6-8 months ago and if they had been better at planning could of bagged them all up ready so that all they needed to do was add small bag 1 and 2 etc to the main box and could off packed 100s a day rather than the poor number they say they are doing

 CURNOW wrote:
What's annoying is that they had 95% of the figures ready 6-8 months ago and if they had been better at planning could of bagged them all up ready so that all they needed to do was add small bag 1 and 2 etc to the main box and could off packed 100s a day rather than the poor number they say they are doing

That would have made their push to sell the KS exclusive version via retail before sending out Backer pledges even more efficient.

yeah,
They must be having cash problems now and can't afford to post out the KS...
...or we are never getting it and they stole our money!?

You can buy a copy on there website right now though http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/alien-vs-predator/174-avp-the-hunt-begines-boardgame.html
222 copies in stock and ready for shipping... Just not to Backers.

Scumbags.

Panic...

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Just received a shipping confirmation ('course, core game boxes only)
The only scary part is, on that confirmation it says 3 shippings - with the other two being left empty ... but if they actually oogle the idea of 3 waves ...
I'll keep you posted, if and when it finaly gets here.

 Moses Bad wrote:
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Just received a shipping confirmation ('course, core game boxes only)
The only scary part is, on that confirmation it says 3 shippings - with the other two being left empty ... but if they actually oogle the idea of 3 waves ...
I'll keep you posted, if and when it finaly gets here.

Congrats dude I think your the first backer I've heard of on these forums (or anywhere come to think of it) getting a shipping notification.

Not quite - on BGG there is one, had his confirmation 'bout a week he says and no game yet.
Well, as I said, wait and see.

Im still waiting for a shipping notification :C

chaos0xomega wrote:
Im still waiting for a shipping notification :C

Most of us are.

Most? Its all but one of us!

Joyboozer wrote:
Most? Its all but one of us!

Yes.

Most.

If you actually get your stuff, the fanboys will use you as "proof" that Prodos is doing a bang up job of getting those boxes out to backers because, gosh darn it, you're important!

A few posters on FB have started posting pics of receiving the core set, over the past few days..

 Pacific wrote:
A few posters on FB have started posting pics of receiving the core set, over the past few days..

How many ordered via the Prodos web shop or through an online retailer and how many via KS?

 warboss wrote:
If you actually get your stuff, the fanboys will use you as "proof" that Prodos is doing a bang up job of getting those boxes out to backers because, gosh darn it, you're important!

They can try, and I'll go all Xeno-Queen on 'em.
I wasn't the most friendly when I wrote them - well, as friendly as sarcasm goes. Told 'em, I'm absolutely stunned and happy, I can buy the game in their online shop but as a backer, I have to wait until what we call in german "Sankt Nimmerleinstag".