Moses Bad wrote:
Packaging errors can happen, anywhere. Not just with the small companies.
I don't say that, because I now at least have my basegame, it's fact.

I'll even go that far to check through all, count every token and card, if it's all accounted for.

If I where you, I'd contact them, maybe send them a pic of the bags.
I'd see one of three scearios:
They ignore you - I'd doubt that.
They want you to return the whole game or at least the two bags and send out replacement.
They send you the missing minis and tell you, to keep the difference.

 Panic wrote:
yeah,
is it just me or have they switched off the ability to post to the AVP facebook page?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alien-vs-Predator-The-Miniatures-Game/1430433530510297?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

Panic...

 Moses Bad wrote:
Now this is just a really minor tid bit and I really don't give a damn, if or if not ... But since this IS the exclusive KS version of the game that's being dished out ... wasn't there a promise for all backer names to be present somwhere on it? As I said, doesn't matter at all for me, but I can't recall they took a step back from that.

 Moses Bad wrote:
Now this is just a really minor tid bit and I really don't give a damn, if or if not ... But since this IS the exclusive KS version of the game that's being dished out ... wasn't there a promise for all backer names to be present somwhere on it? As I said, doesn't matter at all for me, but I can't recall they took a step back from that.

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 Moses Bad wrote:
Is there a difference? For Prodos I mean.

This is Rumour Control, Here are the Facts...
1. Do we have an estimated date when Wave 1 will be completed?
Yep, end of August. We hope sooner than that, of course. By shipping stock to Ninja Division in one bulk, we've managed to reduce the number of parcels to be shipped quite significantly!

2. UK partner?
We still have to confirm this, but it is looking like we will not. This will not necessarily speed things up. It will take us a week to manufacture all the stock, then 4-5 days to get it to the warehouse, then 4-5 days for them to ship. We would think that in 3 weeks time (working days) we could achieve the same ourselves. The UK and EIRE was our largest zone for Backers at roughly 40% of the Kickstarter being the UK and EIRE alone.

3. How many backers have been shipped?
We do not know exact figures, but including the shipment to America, roughly 600.

4. When do the second batch of Wave 2 items go to Fox for approval?
This should occur on Monday or Tuesday of the coming week.

5. What steps have been made to increase output?
We are still sourcing a printer that can print in quality and in high volume. We are also looking at additional assembly companies to work with actually putting the game together and shrinkwrapping it.
We have increased manufacturing capacity by up to 40% this week. A huge step was made last night, with some equipment that arrived. 2 of our directors actually worked from 2PM until 10AM this morning installing equipment and testing the production line. This is good news for AvP, for Warzone and for all of our clients. We are running with the intention of creating at least 150 copies of AvP a day, with possibly more.

6. Are we shipping to Australia?
Yes, there are 149 backers in Australia. We are shipping to them whenever they come up in our stack of orders.

7. Are we leaving (x) until last so that we can ship Wave 1 and Wave 2 together to save money?
No. At least, not intentionally. Sure, we are a business and we would like to save money; but that is not our key driver. We made a statement a few weeks ago, saying that if we could ship Wave 1 and Wave 2 together, we would. That still applies, but we are not holding back the shipment, or purposely delaying it to do that. The fundamental point there is that we need to ship the Kickstarter Wave 1 to make sales of the Boxed Set.

8. Are we going out of business, hence the slow production rate?
Not at all. We have invested in too many staff and too much equipment recently for that to be the case. Sure, we are cutting it fine, but only so that we can get the Kickstarter shipped out as fast as possible. Please understand that the stage we are at is usually referred to as the 'stocking up' period. Most companies would do this behind closed doors, build up a huge stock-holding and then ship it all out at once. That is the case, I am sure, for any of the other licensed games that have been released recently. We are aware that we made a mistake trying to ship it all piecemeal and we are now trying to rectify that with the decision to ship the USA products with Ninja Division and to sign them up as our North American publisher.
Hind-sight is 20:20, as they say.
If you do spot somewhere that this kind of rumour is being spread, we would be very interested in where the source is. Please advise us to where you heard this. We are keen to deal with the source of that particular rumour.

9. Why didn't you answer my question?
Apologies, that's not intentional, we must have missed it. Please can you list it below and we will do our best to answer as soon as we can. Please also be aware that some questions are more appropriate for private email. If you have a customer complaint/query, please email sales@prodosgames.com, where he will forward you to the right place.

10. Why will you not give refunds?
Simply put, the money pledged on Kickstarter is used by us as an investment. We have enough capital to ship your copies and continue the production of the game. We have spoken to Kickstarter and our right to refuse a refund is equal to the right to request one. The fact we have begun shipping and that we are sharing these updates is enough to prove we have every intention to provide every backer with the products we promised (with reasonable, aesthetic changes).

11. The Kickstarter is still down, will it ever go back up?
We're aware of that and yes, we hope for the Kickstarter to go back up eventually. We would imagine that, at the earliest, this will be when the project is completed and all items are approved. We are in discussion with Fox regarding it, as it would open the doors again and get rid of the nasty suggestion of 'IP Dispute' that is factually incorrect.

12. Will Prodos Games be holding another open day soon?
Yes, we are intending to run an Open Day in Leamington Spa soon. We will be communicating with Crusaders about their assistance with this and would invite all fans of Prodos Games to attend. This may or may not be in our offices. We will see!
Gen Con is next week, don’t forget we will be in booth 1943 with our US partner Ninja Division. We will be handing out AvP boxes to North American backers that come to the booth. Please bring a printout copy of your pledge manager with you to speed up the process.
Shipping to all non-North and South American backers continues from our Poland facility.
We are awaiting word back from Fox on the physical approval of the Wave 2 packaged products.
Thanks again all and please accept my apologies for the delay in getting this communication to you.
Cheers,
Prodos Games LTD

 DaveC wrote:
Just looked at those figures and they are in no way doing fine net assets of £6,200 and based on that Liquidity ratio of 0.2 anything less than 1 means you can't pay your debts they aren't even close. Obligations to backers aren't counted as trade debts either. That's not rumours of trouble that's cold hard facts.

 Moses Bad wrote:
I wonder ... if you go to the PM and throw everything out, will there be a refund?
No, not really, but it sure works the other way around.

 DaveC wrote:
Just checked there are 2094 backers but yeah 600 so far isn't a great showing that's only 29% and from the wording it looks like some didn't ship to backers just to other distribution.

If there are 840ish UK and Ireland backers they won't be done in 3 weeks at the current rate they haven't even shipped that many in 4 weeks or so.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Sorry got my numbers muddled- says I'm backer #2473 on my backed projects history?