CptJake wrote:
Wave 3 has not shipped, at least not to all backers. I got my initial shipment ages ago (base game and wave 1 and some available at the time wave 2 stuff).

I have not gotten a fething thing since then.

 CptJake wrote:
I don't feel sorry for him. Choose to do business with a dishonest person, and well, sometimes it bites you in the ass.

He knew what he was getting into. Maybe Jarek and crew step up for his project. Their involvement kept me from pledging, and I'm not the only one.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Gangfight has acutally just posted 3D prints of his new KS stuff hot off the press from prodos

complete with integrated base for their unicast system

so I wonder if the issue isn't that all their effort is going into that so customers for non-unicast stuff may be experiencing issues that unicast customers won't

ADMIN.
An update of sorts from Prodos.
Our team is working on an expansion to the Hunt Begins board game, that is in the pipeline to be released mid of 2017, in the mean time there will be a new release of AvP game, called The Last Stand, that will have an extra PDF rules allowing it to be used as an expansion to THB.
The last stand is in 100% non-hobby product (no assembly required) and is designed with Board Game play style in mind.
Also, Unleashed rules should be available in a month time, our graphical team is working on it as we speak!
current AvP will be expanded in the future in parallel with Unlashed releases. There is about 15 additional designs that needs to be approved/sculpted and ran through production.
As for releases, any new release can be used in all 3 variants of the AvP products, THB, Unleashed and TLS.
BTW. We even have enough material for Mercenaries, and if we are fortunate enough to get an approval they will be available before next year Xmas.
I can not answere any questions to this but thought you gamers would find it good to read.
Best wishes.
Simon (admin)
Full source found at http://prodosgames.com/community/alien-vs-predator/is-prodos-abandoning-avp-the-hunt-begins

Hi all, this is not the full update, as I am away due to personal issues and I cannot reach key people to clarify few points. However, the official statement will be made on our website blog within next few days and here are the key points you may be interested in. Please bear in mind, non of the changed will affect Kickstarters delivery.
1. There is a changed in Prodos Games LTD management structure.
2. New management’s priority is to finish AvP Kickstarter delivery asap, and the route-map is created in order to finish it off:
a) new stuff is being employed to increase capacity for manufacturing and customer service in order to improve communication with backers and shipping.
b) new management decision was to cancel many external casting work to increase capacity to finish AvP Kickstarter, as you may know, every item approved post March 16 needed to be manufactured for you.
c) nothing will be release to retail until the last backer receive their pledges.
d) slow shipping in last 2 months was caused by :
-holiday period and sick absence
- low capacity (too much work taken on by Prodos – issue addressed)
- issues with pledge manager – Prodos team needed to go through each individual pledge, and confirm it with shipping goods as Prodos have received feedback about double-shipping the same pledge to several backers. (addressed by Prodos)
- we had yearly VAT check and need to take a stocktake, that effectively cut out two weeks from our manufacturing/packing capacity.
3. Prodos is looking into tokens issue. This can only be addressed post Kickstarter.
4. 3D terrain is in external supplier 3D print and will be with us within weeks, it will be revealed and send to backers as soon as we start manufacturing it (3-4 weeks at max).
5. Wargaming book, the work on layout for the book is starting this week Monday, the book should be manufactured within 60 days, you will be able to see a preview PDF weeks before it goes to print.
6. Remaining items – Clear Predators, Marines tokens and multi parts models are in manufacturing and the stock in build up for shipping.
7. PLEASE check your pledge manger for address and same and SURNAME for shipping!
Other issues not related with Kickstarter that won’t affect you at all are:
- post Brexit (customs issues that may affect EU and USA customers post Brexit, it wont affect backers at all, however its a valid point as it will affect many current UK based Kickstarters if not delivered within a year or so)
- Prodos HQ relocation to USA
- moving from GBP as main currency to USD due to unsectarian position of GBP post Brexit.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
so I wonder if the issue isn't that all their effort is going into that so customers for non-unicast stuff may be experiencing issues that unicast customers won't

ced1106 wrote:

Main problem is that backers don't know *what* Prodos / Archon's priorities are, so have no idea what risk to assign a crowdfunded project. I don't care how good these miniatures are, Prodos / Archon, GameZone, whatever. I have plenty of good miniatures from companies I *know* will deliver miniatures to me on time (I highly recommend Dark Sword miniatures). If you're wed to the IP (hello, Dr. Who), yeah, you're kinda screwed. Wait for retail, pay the extra money, and don't risk the drama, wait, and anger some previous backers experienced. LOAD backers got their stuff, AvP ones didn't. Does that mean backers of the next Prodos / Archon project will get high quality mini's without years-long delays? I"m guessing yeah, maybe. But, with the queue of miniatures I have to paint, I'm in no hurry to find out!

 Pimpernel wrote:
A comment on AvP:THB Kickstarter Backers Only Facebook Group

Derek Barry posted "I see that LOAD is now being delivered on KS. Seems to indicate that Prodos/Archon can deliver but that there are other holdups."

Jarek made an appearance & made these 2 posts
Jarek Ewertowski All games based on Fox licenses have been delivered by US companies, there's only one being done by European company, ours, and there always have been some disconnections on a line Fox UK to Fox USA, really can't talk about in much, because it's not worth it, however there is a reason why many Fox licenses are out here and not many games are being done,

Jarek Ewertowski Well I cannot talk,badly ?, about Fox for another 3 years, so let's say they have been so grateful to hold on on release of The Hunt begins for 8 months because they were so worry that we won't have nothing else from the cannon to piggy back sales on, how grateful, and another one is that they really care about the IP, and because an average work length in Fox is 6 months, if you hit the spot when there is a crew change you need to go through every bit of approval from start, meaning another round of changes, because now this predation is too fat :0 how awesome that they care so much about their IPs, no? Anyway it's all awesome.

Make of it what you will.

On the other hand, Archon has already began teasing their new game which is to be coop. They've said this game is to be completely different from LOAD, but so far I'm seeing some similarities in the cards alone. Link: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/14889905_538435826355274_1106217218135995038_o.jpg?oh=d5f7437d5d65558c0a7c2b3b7ea5493a&oe=58F248B5

mrondeau wrote:

 Pimpernel wrote:
A comment on AvP:THB Kickstarter Backers Only Facebook Group

Derek Barry posted "I see that LOAD is now being delivered on KS. Seems to indicate that Prodos/Archon can deliver but that there are other holdups."

Jarek made an appearance & made these 2 posts
Jarek Ewertowski All games based on Fox licenses have been delivered by US companies, there's only one being done by European company, ours, and there always have been some disconnections on a line Fox UK to Fox USA, really can't talk about in much, because it's not worth it, however there is a reason why many Fox licenses are out here and not many games are being done,

Jarek Ewertowski Well I cannot talk,badly ?, about Fox for another 3 years, so let's say they have been so grateful to hold on on release of The Hunt begins for 8 months because they were so worry that we won't have nothing else from the cannon to piggy back sales on, how grateful, and another one is that they really care about the IP, and because an average work length in Fox is 6 months, if you hit the spot when there is a crew change you need to go through every bit of approval from start, meaning another round of changes, because now this predation is too fat :0 how awesome that they care so much about their IPs, no? Anyway it's all awesome.

Make of it what you will.

Of course, this ignores that the problem is that they don't ship to backers. Nothing like seeing stuff you already paid for years ago cheaper in store to make you like a company!

Oh, wait, sorry. By "like" I meant "have nothing but comptent for", and by "company" I meant "bunch of thieves". My mistake.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I won't be contacting Fox, for a couple of reasons:

1. Nobody important will see it. You will get a canned response from automated e-mail or, at best, an unpaid intern that may as well be a robot firing of canned responses.

2. If by some miracle someone important sees it, I don't want Fox pulling the plug. That way I'm assured to get nothing. At least having the Prodos clowns retain the IP means there is some slim possibility of me still getting some more product in the next few years (or however long their contract is for).