Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game, Prodos loses license to AvP. p.266

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**Nostromodamus**

Oh good, another KS?

Glad to see AvP getting done so quickly then. I expect it will show up at my door any day now.

After all, it was top priority and would be done before anything else started, right?

**CptJake**

So Jarek is holding fast to his promise that AvP KS backers will take priority.

fether.

**Stormonu**

So who here still hasn't recieved their pledge yet? (I finally got the base set I ordered through my FLGS last January, haven't bothered to pick up anything else for the game, myself)

**Nostromodamus**

Stormonu wrote:
So who here still hasn't recieved their pledge yet? (I finally got the base set I ordered through my FLGS last January, haven't bothered to pick up anything else for the game, myself)

I got the core game and a few extras they had ready at the time, still waiting for much of it though.

**CptJake**

I got the base game and some of the Wave 1 stuff. Haven't gotten a single other thing I am owed by Jarek and crew at Prodos/Archon/whatever the feth they are calling themselves this week.

**JoeRugby**

Anything recent on the Facebook page?

**mrondeau**

Stormonu wrote:
So who here still hasn't recieved their pledge yet? (I finally got the base set I ordered through my FLGS last January, haven't bothered to pick up anything else for the game, myself)

I still have not received anything at all from those thieves.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well they've backed down from doing the minis for Gangfight Games now so they're certainly concentrating on something

**Nostromodamus**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well they've backed down from doing the minis for Gangfight Games now so they're certainly concentrating on something

Yes, their new KS on the 10th.

**Wolfun**

Stormonu wrote:
So who here still hasn't recieved their pledge yet? (I finally got the base set I ordered through my FLGS last January, haven't bothered to pick up anything else for the game, myself)

I got mine last week.
I have two friends near me who are still waiting.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Nostromodamus wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well they've backed down from doing the minis for Gangfight Games now so they're certainly concentrating on something

Yes, their new KS on the 10th.

Well poop I hoped with load out and done (and the technology 'proved') they'd kill the rest of the AvP stuff swiftly then actually have a real chance of moving forward

**Nostromodamus**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Nostromodamus wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well they've backed down from doing the minis for Gangfight Games now so they're certainly concentrating on something

Yes, their new KS on the 10th.

Well poop I hoped with load out and done (and the technology 'proved') they'd kill the rest of the AvP stuff swiftly then actually have a real chance of moving forward

Nope, AvP backers continue to not matter as usual, contrary to what Jarek & co. claim about putting priority on AvP.

**Dark Severance**

This was posted in the AvP Prodos Games Official Facebook group, that someone posted on behalf of Jarek:

Hi there, just a heads up, we are working on a KS update. One of the issue is that Clear predators are a nightmare to manufacture due to hight scrap rate, and because we cannot use chemical that have been allowed in 2012 (and now EU ban them due health and safety concerns) so we have decided to move ahead with plastic injection tool and make clear predators out of clear injection plastic (one picture is of injection shot made out of normal HIPS). As for Clear berserker and female pred, due to low demand on them we will take a bullet and keep manufacturing it in a traditional, with materials that we can use, and keep scrapping what is not good as a product. More info in the full update.

Also it may be my last post here, someone else it taking the role in Prodos. I am taking a break from this commodity for some time, so I would like to say thanks for being so patience and all the best on your wargaming/ board gaming tables! Also here is a sneak peak of Wargaming rules!

Spoiler:

**CptJake**

What a gak show.

**Stormonu**

Wait - so the clear predators are going to be milti-part models? Isn't that going to look strange/gakky when assembled?

**CptJake**

Stormonu wrote:
Wait - so the clear predators are going to be milti-part models? Isn't that going to look strange/gakky when assembled?

I'm sure Jarek and crew can find a way to screw it up, but they can come out decently.

I have some of the Steve McVey clear figures that were multi-part and think they came out well:

(shows how I magnetized him to take weapon options)

These were not injected molded with whatever material Jarek and crew will use, but it does show that muti-part clear figs can come out decently.

**Ruglud**

Think I may revisit the pledge manager and change for something else - was (optimistically) looking forward to the clear resin preds ever since they originally showed them all those years back (even though i doubted I'd get them...) Multi-part clear sprue sounds awful - going to be obvious joins and possible glue fogging if you're not ultra careful in the construction :( All I'm waiting for now are these, the multi-part marines and facehuggers (got my boxed game and majority of the pledge in December 2015 - although it's all still pretty much untouched as I don't really have the motivation to do anything with it after the mess of the kickstarter...

Interesting as well that Jarek is taking a 'break' and that someone else is taking his role - sounds like the new management structure is having some sort of effect at Prodos (or whatever they are called now)

Out of interest - here's the original 'prototype' that presumably is blocked due to EU H&S

**Nostromodamus**

Ruglud wrote:
Think I may revisit the pledge manager and change for something else

Is that even possible any more?

**Ruglud**

Don't see why not, they have't delivered what's remaining and the PM doesn't appear to be locked - although i will contact Agata 'Whatever her name is' before to check...

**Grot 6**

They should be prohibited from doing another Kickstarter, and I will be reporting them as soon as it goes live.

AVP is DOA, not completed, unsupported, and unfulfilled.

**Nostromodamus**

Grot 6 wrote:
They should be prohibited from doing another Kickstarter, and I will be reporting them as soon as it goes live.

AVP is DOA, not completed, unsupported, and unfulfilled.

But now it's Archon, with a "different management structure". Prodos 2.0, if you will. Now with extra disregard for fulfilling previous obligations.

**Wolfun**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Grot 6 wrote:
They should be prohibited from doing another Kickstarter, and I will be reporting them as soon as it goes live.

AVP is DOA, not completed, unsupported, and unfulfilled.

But now it's Archon, with a "different management structure". Prodos 2.0, if you will. Now with extra disregard for fulfilling previous obligations.

You'll be amazed how often companies do this.
The company I worked for had an outstanding 10,000 pound bill with another company. The company that owed us went 'bankrupt'. The CEO of that company formed a new comp doing exactly the same thing, leaving us 10 grand out of pocket. Tried to take them to court and it got thrown out.

Another ridiculous loophole.

**Siygess**

One thing I can assure you is that it is not unsupported (in the game sense, not necessarily the release sense). But completing delivery would indeed be nice. I'm still waiting on a bunch of stuff myself.

**redcore**

I have received only the core game as a KS supporter like 1 year and half ago, but i am still waiting for "wave 2" ? items:
-----------------------------------
M Power Loader x1
A Warrior x5
A Predalien x1
A Crusher x1
A Queen x1
P Predator Hellhounds x2
-----------------------------------
who should i send an email or something? Has anyone here received these models?
In case I order some Warzone stuff - I have all brotherhood models" and ask for AWP models, would Prodos ship them to me? I am in Vancouver CA

**ced1106**

Grot 6 wrote:
They should be prohibited from doing another Kickstarter, and I will be reporting them as soon as it goes live..

KS will not listen to you. Pledge a dollar in the KS and comment.

Look at the BGG LOAD forum. I and others did a *lot* of work in finding out who's behind Archon.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/195547/load-league-ancient-defenders

I don't think there's a Vanguard entry on BGG, but you can submit one. Post there as well.

**Ruglud**

redcore wrote:
I have received only the core game as a KS supporter like 1 year and half ago, but i am still waiting for "wave 2" ? items:
-----------------------------------
M Power Loader x1
A Warrior x5
A Predalien x1
A Crusher x1
A Queen x1
P Predator Hellhounds x2
-----------------------------------
who should i send an email or something? Has anyone here received these models?
In case I order some Warzone stuff - I have all brotherhood models" and ask for AWP models, would Prodos ship them to me? I am in Vancouver CA

Try these...
sales2@prodosgames.com
agata.mazurek@prodos.co.uk

or if you're on Facebook can tag / message these ladies...
Alicja Rzepka
Agata Mazurek

All those items have been approved and sent out to other backers (or some backers... I have some of those listed that I received in December 2015 - nothing since though). Good luck

**Morikun**

My Dear Redcore, I can tell you that all items of your list were approved : I received it about 1 year ago... After shouting a lot and after sending some friends of mine at Crisis and Salute (and I think due to the fact I were one of the french translator team)...

I only miss th cloaked preds (I'm afraid about the news about them TT) and the tokens pred who are apparently lost in the Warp...

Serviteur,

Morikun

**dekinrie**

I see eaglemoss are doing a aliens predator set from the movies would it be quicker collecting these than waiting for the pledges arriving

**chromedog**

CptJake wrote:

I have some of the Steve McVey clear figures that were multi-part and think they came out well:

That's MIKE McVey or Studio McVey. I don't think there is a Steve McVey involved.

**CptJake**

chromedog wrote:
CptJake wrote:

I have some of the Steve McVey clear figures that were multi-part and think they came out well:

That's MIKE McVey or Studio McVey. I don't think there is a Steve McVey involved.

Yep. My mistake.