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Are there team-rosters anywhere, legally, if I want to get a leg up on getting some new models for teams? I was just waiting for an excuse to get some Blight Kings from Sigmar to paint, and if they can be converted for BB, so much the better!

Do we know if the current game is intact enough to support all existing teams, as-is? I was going to go Dwarves as well, but might hold off on it for these new plastics.

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Old models can still be used, its just this time around that they're really going all-out on sculpting models dedicated to the setting, explicitly stating that this is not part of the Warhammer Fantasy or Age of Sigmar settings, but another one altogether.

As for teams, not much I heard on that sadly, though I highly doubt anything will be invalidated, as they mentioned also wanting to run leagues built around older models as "historical" matches from days gone by.

Oh, there will also be a free app (with in app purchases of course) where you can easily run your own leagues and tournaments.



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Interesting on the App front. AoS App has proven an invaluable play-aid, so I am certainly open to anything of the sort.

I may just dive in as far as a Nurgle Team. I'm sure the FW resins will be beautiful, but Blight Kings and a box of Plague-bearers are a few Space Marine Shoulder-Pads away from being a Blood-Bowl team for a fraction of the cost. :-p

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From what we were told, the app will have a wifi / blue tooth feature that allows it to link up with other devices that also have the app and share league information with one another, making it easier to keep track of everything.

The Nurgle team will be fun, the catcher art that Mark showed off had a large gaping mouth in the gut for catching balls, instead of a large glove or mitt like most normal catchers.



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I love the concept art for the Dwarf.

Very interested to see what they do for Dark Elves.

Love Mr Bedford's stuff.

I am getting very excited about this game.


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 BrookM wrote:
The rules are unchanged, maybe one or two things altered for speed (like replacing the random chit to determine which player is randomly overcome with something by a custom D16), but they are intact and the same as the last version GW put out for download a few years ago.

And yes, if you like it, PLEASE DO SUPPORT THEM WITH YOUR WALLET, because if this proves to be a success they will most certainly pour more resources into this.


My group of 14 hardcore players and a bunch of somewhat reliable players will be buying the game. Thats like 22 box sets that we will be buying.

I really wish GW would have made the pitch's with "mouse pad" material. Mean to say, it would have raised the price of the box set, but using muse pad material would have been great. Our league, The Thursday night Hero's, have switched to cloth or mouse pad pitch's because we wore out the boards from 3rd ed. And the "astro turf" boards from 2nd ed are nice looking, but many of the squares are too small, and its a pain with the board moving.

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 BrookM wrote:
From what we were told, the app will have a wifi / blue tooth feature that allows it to link up with other devices that also have the app and share league information with one another, making it easier to keep track of everything.

The Nurgle team will be fun, the catcher art that Mark showed off had a large gaping mouth in the gut for catching balls, instead of a large glove or mitt like most normal catchers.


Nurgle teams never had Catchers.... Hmm. :-p

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The boxed set includes a double sided pitch, one is the classic green field, the other was.. brown if I remember correctly?

They will do more types of pitch as more teams become available, so maybe a change in material will happen as well then?

While we're talking about the pitch, it was pointed out that the Death Roller has the same width as a lane of grass on the game board, this was done as a tongue in cheek reference that the device originally was a lawn mower first and foremost.

Finally, the art of the Goblins shown on the box cover so far has not been final, Mark Bedford did some new sketches and the upcoming Gobbo team will have special headgear, which when looked at from the side, will make their heads look like crescent moons, a classic Gobbo symbol.

People who do not like this feature or want to make their teams look different, no worries, the models have been designed with customisation in mind, plus the idea that upgrade kits or different teams will be sold in the future with different headgear or equipment to make them stand out from the rest.


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One last thing I remembered, I'm not sure if this will also be in the rulebook, but Andy tracked down the original artist of the first edition art and asked him to do art for the game, which may, depending on how one feels about it, give it all a very nice retro look.

We also found out that the Facebook posts done in the style of Jim and Bob are done by two people, who each assume one of the characters and have a bit of banter together. They'll make a return to announcing things soon enough, as one of the two is now on a honeymoon IIRC.

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 BrookM wrote:
From what we were told, the app will have a wifi / blue tooth feature that allows it to link up with other devices that also have the app and share league information with one another, making it easier to keep track of everything.

The Nurgle team will be fun, the catcher art that Mark showed off had a large gaping mouth in the gut for catching balls, instead of a large glove or mitt like most normal catchers.


There was a small series of "fantasy football" figures from Green Tree called Slaughter ball. No point looking it up, as the figures are long gone.

Anyway, they has a couple of "nurgle-ish" figures, And one had the mouth in their gut.

I am a very active Blood Bowl league commish, and figure collector. I have almost 2,000 blood bowl/fantasy football figures. The only figures I don't collect are "side line staff: like coaches, cheerleaders, apoth. etc. I do collect Ref figures, and wish GW would come up with fun rules for refs.

I am very excited abouth the re re release`. I hope they update all of the teams. I know thay won't, but I hope.


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And btw, when you look for "slaughter ball", those figures ARE NOT the old slaughter ball figures.

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They can't do them all in one go, they are going for the core choices (humans and orks) plus the other popular ones (dwarves and skaven) first before moving on to others.



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Does any third-party currently make a neoprene, or other nicer pitch-mat that has more generous square-sizes? I think it would be fun to really go nuts with basing for some of the larger models, and yet still have room to clearly knock-down/stun them without the table becoming unreadable at a glance.

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Does any third-party currently make a neoprene, or other nicer pitch-mat that has more generous square-sizes? I think it would be fun to really go nuts with basing for some of the larger models, and yet still have room to clearly knock-down/stun them without the table becoming unreadable at a glance.

Comixininos sell a lot of piches in different materials (plastic, felt, cloth, mousepad, cardboard).
http://www.comixininos.com/blood-bowl-accesories/campos.html

Some of them with 40mm squares (Latest GW BB uses 32mm squares)
http://www.comixininos.com/blood-bowl-accesories/campos/skulls-plastic-gaming-mat-for-big-guys-40mm-squares-with-crossed-dugouts-comixininos.html

   
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I love that! Thanks Zywus. Come Christmas i'm definitely grabbing one!

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Theres a guy on talkfantasyfootball that will put any design on nice mouse pad pitch;s. i'll get back with his email address...

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 bound for glory wrote:
Theres a guy on talkfantasyfootball that will put any design on nice mouse pad pitch;s. i'll get back with his email address...


Likewise, thank you. My only criteria really is having bigger size squares for a little extra room.

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 BrookM wrote:

One last thing I remembered, I'm not sure if this will also be in the rulebook, but Andy tracked down the original artist of the first edition art and asked him to do art for the game, which may, depending on how one feels about it, give it all a very nice retro look.


I hope you are referring to Pete Knifton. I really like his work, both in Blood Bowl and Flintloque. Getting him involved would make this new edition even more welcome to me.
   
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Every time there is a new release, there's an Australian dude to whine about the prices.
I live in Russia, but you don't see me whining in every thread!


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Every time there is a new release, there's an Australian dude to whine about the prices.
I live in Russia, but you don't see me whining in every thread!


There is a good reason for the whining.

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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
Every time there is a new release, there's an Australian dude to whine about the prices.
I live in Russia, but you don't see me whining in every thread!


There is a good reason for the whining.


Aussies get a free pass on price whining. It's the only guaranteed negativity of a gw release that is always 100% justified

Also this looks awesome.

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But what does it contribute to the topic?
It's the same point every time, just different product released by GW. It won't change anything, everyone's is aware already, and it doesn't lead anywhere. It's different to regular pricing discussions, because people discuss difference in cost compared to other products. But prices is Australia will always be huge, in three digits most of the time. I know that, and I would be upset too. We all would. Nevertheless it's akin to me complaining, that all GW products will arrive at least a month later and getting "online exclusives " is a pain in the behind, in every release thread.


What raised my eyebrow is the following:
It's claimed, that the only two other plastic teams will be dwarfs and skaven
No mention of elves and nurgle, which is weird to me- we have a lot of dynamic plastic kits for both. Blight kings, plaguebearers, snotlings, witch elves, Mage from Silver tower, Wych elves(ok, not FB, but close)... It's seems to me, it would be easier for them to manufacture teams in plastic They already make fantastic CAD for following forces therefore, we can assume, that they have specialist, that excel in producing similar minis.. Why change the medium? Those teams will be very popular, I could imagine

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These will be models in football gear, not models in combat armour running around on a pitch. They want to avoid recycling models or simply going the lazy way about things, so no more old Lord Borak who was an unarmed chaos warrior stuff.



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What they could do is a "kickstarter-lite" type of pre-order where they put up preview pics and test models a couple of months ahead, allow people to order based on that and then if there is sufficient interest (£-value of preorders placed) the kit is released in plastic rather than resin.

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I'm not talking about rehashes of old kits, but rather about the ability to make (somewhat) similar good quality models
Nurgle is nurgle, elves are elves in their core

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That doesn't look like a bad idea.. Although, wouldn't just a poll be sufficient?
Like, what team to do in plastic next

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I'm not talking about rehashes of old kits, but rather about the ability to make (somewhat) similar good quality models
Nurgle is nurgle, elves are elves in their core

Right and new plastic tooling is massively more expensive (nearly two orders of magnitude) than resin tooling so if they don't believe they can get the returns on the kit they aren't going to make it.

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Indeed, that's the reasoning behind resin teams first before moving on to full plastics. If a team proves popular enough, they will be able to justify retooling them in plastic.

Though if the first run were to.. you know.. sell out completely in a short amount of time.. That might also be an awesome incentive..



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@Mr_Rose
That doesn't look like a bad idea.. Although, wouldn't just a poll be sufficient?
Like, what team to do in plastic next

Unfortunately not. Polls are not reliable for this sort of thing due to the lack of commitment on the responders' parts; they are too easy to spoof if you're malicious (conjuring a few thousand spurious votes online is considerably easier than obtaining the same number of legit credit card details) and too easy for the only-marginally-interested to come down in favour of without actually intending to purchase product.

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Yeah,
While we can always convert WHFB figures until teams are released,
GW won't want to leave big gaps in the market for 3rd party teams.
Resin is quicker to market than plastic...

The danger of resin releases will be price and the finecast quality stigma...
Imagine the cost of 12 finecast frames
Imagine having to hobby 12 finecast frames
A full roster of 16 might end up past £150

I can see another problem with the rumoured test the water system...
If popular resin teams are remade in plastic; people might think I'll wait it out for the cheaper/better plastic release...
So resin sales are poor and plastic never happens!

I think GW could sell regular £50-£70 expansion packs.
Two teams and some stuff, If the extra content is good enough, most leagues will adopt all new content and players will need to buy the sets to have access to the new random tables, new inducements, new tokens, new templates etc...

Dungeon bowl with Elves and Skaven
Chaos Cup - Chaos team and/or Nurgle team
Undead cup - undead and ??
Rumble in the jungle, Lizards and Amazon.

Unique pitches.
Alternative core starters?


Can't wait for dungeon bowl!

Panic...

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I don't like working with resin. At all. Cutting it feels, I dunno, wrong to me. Plastic Nurglers would make me buy them, resin ones would make me pass. I don't love their playstyle *that* much

More Skaven are always nice, but their multi-part sets work quite well as stand-ins, IMO. The dwarves seem to have an interesting design, better suited to sport games than their multi kits, but they're quite boring to play.


I'd totally buy those spitballed expansions with two plastic teams in a heartbeat, though, unless the teams look more like the new humans instead of the new Orcs.

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