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barnacle111 wrote: Does anyone know the australian price....? I hate to think....
I just asked the question in a store and was quietly told "around $165 for the box, $50ish for Skaven team".
That pretty much seals it for me. Far too much for clones of players that were stamped out for pennies per sprue. I was already making my own pitch, and have the LRB/Bugmans rules. I'll spend the money on a team from Willy Miniatures.
I'm seriously pumped that GW are bringing BB back, but I can already see the nickle and diming on the way with supplements and add-ons, and partial teams that will need expansions, etc.
I know how negative that sounds, but forgive me as I'm still seriously cheesed off about the ROTW embargo. GW will have to rescind that before I forgo spending my money on alternatives, or at least make a better offer than two sets of 12 models for $165.
durecellrabbit wrote: Are we only going to get rules for Humans, Orcs, Skaven, Dwarfs, Nurgle and Elves until season 2 or whatever their next supplement will be?
Apparently, unless event organizers want to use the older rules until they get an official release.
The same question could be applied to the models. Are people only going to be allowed to play with official GW models in their stores and events? Or is this the chance for GW to start relaxing that policy?
It'll be important for GW to push Blood Bowl releases aggressively until we get some more of the core teams for variety's sake, seeing as how Elves will make of almost half of the available teams at the start. They probably could have dropped Wood and Union in favor of Lizardmen and Undead.
rayphoton wrote: Or you can continue to use the rules that already exist online. CRP, LRB6 etc etc.
They've been in use for the last 15 years or so. And are free.
But isn't buying new stuff the main part of the GW hobby?
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durecellrabbit wrote: Are we only going to get rules for Humans, Orcs, Skaven, Dwarfs, Nurgle and Elves until season 2 or whatever their next supplement will be?
Apparently, unless event organizers want to use the older rules until they get an official release.
The same question could be applied to the models. Are people only going to be allowed to play with official GW models in their stores and events? Or is this the chance for GW to start relaxing that policy?
It'll be important for GW to push Blood Bowl releases aggressively until we get some more of the core teams for variety's sake, seeing as how Elves will make of almost half of the available teams at the start. They probably could have dropped Wood and Union in favor of Lizardmen and Undead.
This is a great question, I would hope GW would allow people to play with unofficial miniatures at least for teams that aren't yet released (considering there will be three they produce at release).
Also I could not agree more with saying they'll need to aggressively push releases. They made some bad calls (in my opinion) on the races in season 1. Four teams out of seven are elves, and why Nurgle over generic Chaos to start? No Undead faction? I would have thought season 1 would be: High Elves, Dark Elves, Undead, Skaven, Dwarves, Lizardmen, and Chaos. That would be much more representative of the game.
All that aside, I am very excited about GW bringing Blood Bowl back, and if the Skaven kit is any indication, the plastic teams will be pretty reasonably priced.
I know this is the year for ridiculous things to happen in the world. GW allowing you to use other companies miniatures in their events will not be one of them.
durecellrabbit wrote: Are we only going to get rules for Humans, Orcs, Skaven, Dwarfs, Nurgle and Elves until season 2 or whatever their next supplement will be?
That's what it sounds like. I'll probably pick up the dwarfs just to tide me over until they release one of the teams I really want to play.
Are you able to get the larger characters like Black orcs, minotaurs, rat ogres, etc, without using a star player? I would love if there was just 'Generic' big guys, but I'm guessing, as with 2nd ed. that's not the case. (though, to be fair Black orcs didn't require a star player, I just don't see them in the initial box set like the 2nd ed. game set)
Looking forward to that Nurgle team, i hope they are blight king sized figures, that would be cool. And also Chaos Dwarves.
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Are you able to get the larger characters like Black orcs, minotaurs, rat ogres, etc, without using a star player? I would love if there was just 'Generic' big guys, but I'm guessing, as with 2nd ed. that's not the case. (though, to be fair Black orcs didn't require a star player, I just don't see them in the initial box set like the 2nd ed. game set)
Yes, you can get one or more "big guy" per respective team. The number of positionals allowed is listed in each roster. (for example, Orcs can get one troll while Goblins can get two.) In addition, there are a number of Star Players that may be selected in addition to the regular positionals. Star Players are hired on a per game basis, usually out of an allowance awarded based on the difference between the Team Values.
I highly (highly highly) recommend you grab the free rules online while you still can, Blood Bowl has improved immensely since 2nd Ed. It's absolutely my favorite miniatures game.
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Are you able to get the larger characters like Black orcs, minotaurs, rat ogres, etc, without using a star player? I would love if there was just 'Generic' big guys, but I'm guessing, as with 2nd ed. that's not the case. (though, to be fair Black orcs didn't require a star player, I just don't see them in the initial box set like the 2nd ed. game set)
Yes, you can get one or more "big guy" per respective team. The number of positionals allowed is listed in each roster. (for example, Orcs can get one troll while Goblins can get two.) In addition, there are a number of Star Players that may be selected in addition to the regular positionals. Star Players are hired on a per game basis, usually out of an allowance awarded based on the difference between the Team Values.
I highly (highly highly) recommend you grab the free rules online while you still can, Blood Bowl has improved immensely since 2nd Ed. It's absolutely my favorite miniatures game.
Thanks for the info Feeder.
I downloaded the rules and gave them a peruse. So excited to see that the chaos dwarfs can have 2 bull centaurs AND a Minotaur. That's my dream team right there!
In early games you can make up for the AG2 on the bull centaurs with team rerolls and then eventually get those guys some skills, but one of the most important things for a CD team is making those centaurs into ball handlers who can score once the 6 dwarves and the minotaur bust some heads and open things up. Some players concentrate on developing just the hobgoblins for ball handling, but IMHO the speed of the centaurs is just too good of a way to move the ball to pass it up.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
That's the rules I've been playing with and I was about to ask the same question what are the current most up-to-date living rule book, the competion rules or living rulebook 6
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Some nuggets from the show:
• dwarfs will be released in a couple of months
• the team have deliberately kept close to the CRP
• (probably) only two roster tweaks - we know that humans catchers at 60k are one, and learned its because the models still look av7
• skaven gutter runners now get a new skill, to reflect knifes on the miniature. Called "Weeping Dagger" (Extraordinary), they can reroll a Badly Hurt results (wow).
• illegal procedure is not compulsory, no surprise there
• special play cards are more numerous, and could be more central to league play
• league rules have had lots of options added
• the "off season" is introduced, including redrafting/rebuying of players
• certain players will now get bored and try to retire after a certain time. You can stop them, but it comes at a higher rebuy cost
• spiralling expenses is now optional
• petty cash has been changed a bit
• if you have more than 100k in your treasury after the post match, you could use some after random events, and if more than 300k, you could lose ALL of it
• stadium and sponsorship rules are possible for the future
• a PDF will come out on release with rules for ALL the CRP rosters, plus pact and underworld (but not slann, khorne, brettonians or simyin - yes, they namechecked our roster!)
• any new rosters will have to meet a high playtest threshold to make it in, purely out of respect for the player base
• piling on is not a compulsory allow for leagues!
And some non BB news:
• Adeptus Titanicus is confirmed
• Necromunda and Mordheim are also on the wishlist
• Gorkamorka... probably not (but maybe some slim hope for a combo with Necromunda!)
The teams could have been fantastic, and the starter set could have been THE starter set, with two full-sized 16-model teams, all uniquely posed, and they could have even included some unique, team-specific coaches and cheerleaders (that could all be be fit on the usual 6" x 8" 3 frame set-up). I imagine Forgeworld will be offering variant models in resin for the various teams, but I would rather have had more thoughtfully designed (i.e. sturdier, and ALL models unique) plastics for each of the teams. I guess they've made the best of what they have been allowed to do though.
Sabotage! wrote: This is a great question, I would hope GW would allow people to play with unofficial miniatures at least for teams that aren't yet released (considering there will be three they produce at release).
I very much doubt official GW stores/events are going to be allowing 3rd party models. Old GW models sure, 3rd party no.
But luckily how large part of events GW stores will be? Maybe luckily for me in Finland pretty much near zero as there's only one GW store to begin with and not sure do they run BB tournaments anyway.
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