Blood Bowl News & Rumors: Gnome Team pg 167

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**str00dles1**

Yea, any list of actual changes from the orgional?

If its pretty much the same, no reason not to play it on PC or PlayStation...

**His Master's Voice**

And people wonder why GW does not allow straight tabletop to video game rules conversions...

**Backfire**

His Master's Voice wrote:
And people wonder why GW does not allow straight tabletop to video game rules conversions...

Space Hulk was, and people seemed to think it was pretty boring because of that...

**Matrixrevived**

str00dles1 wrote:
Yea, any list of actual changes from the orgional?

If its pretty much the same, no reason not to play it on PC or PlayStation...

Does anyone actually play it on playstation?

**wuestenfux**

I'm looking forward to get a starter box. The prices looks okay. How about the supplementary book? Will it be necessary.

But I wanna play Elves and not Orks or Skaven.

**Matrixrevived**

wuestenfux wrote:
I'm looking forward to get a starter box. The prices looks okay. How about the supplementary book? Will it be necessary.

But I wanna play Elves and not Orks or Skaven.

Death Zone has league rules, rules for all of the Elf teams. Also it has Skaven, Dorfs, and Nurgle rules.
If you plan on playing in leagues it will be essential.

**Nostromodamus**

Matrixrevived wrote:
str00dles1 wrote:
Yea, any list of actual changes from the orgional?

If its pretty much the same, no reason not to play it on PC or PlayStation...

Does anyone actually play it on playstation?

Yes

**wuestenfux**

Matrixrevived wrote:
wuestenfux wrote:
I'm looking forward to get a starter box. The prices looks okay. How about the supplementary book? Will it be necessary.

But I wanna play Elves and not Orks or Skaven.

Death Zone has league rules, rules for all of the Elf teams. Also it has Skaven, Dorfs, and Nurgle rules.
If you plan on playing in leagues it will be essential.

Okay, thanks. Good to know.
I hope it will be a fresh game with balance and fun.

**StygianBeach**

Humans and Orcs look great.

Skaven not so good though, which is funny because I really like the never Skaven Infantry from about 2008 onwards. The tails are a bit of a let down, I think tails that are moulded onto the back of the bodies are far superior for gaming purposes than fully independent tails. The thrower can keep his independent tail though.

Ah well, the price is right and the release is just in time for Christmas.

**filbert**

The price might be OK but the constant scale arms race is getting pretty tiresome IMO.

**General Kroll**

Glad they aimed the price at this level £50 at third party retailers is about right imo. It's definitely going down on my
Enter to Santa.

**Baxx**

EnTyme wrote:
Baxx wrote:
I wish two things were improved in Blood Bowl:

1) No laying down minis. How many noses, elboes and spikes must be repainted after a tournament? One thing Warmachine taught me was, do not flip models. Use tokens.

2) Just one simple rule saying that if the ball carrier can score without risk, it has to. This would simply remove the much hated stalling, particularly killing the fun for softer teams. It is not fun playing a squishy team against Chaos with the cage 1 square from the end line, while the rest of the team uses claw, mighty block and piling on for the few of your players still standing, while the ones who are down receive sneaky git and dirty player.

1) Get a good matte finish clear coat. Krylon works great for this!

2) To quote Bob from BB2 PC: "All this focus on the ball violates the spirit of the game!"

1) Clear coat really ruins the highlighting of models.
2) Well then there's not much spirit for wood elves in this game

I've learned my lesson, I play dwarves from now on.

**Matrixrevived**

Playing against Skaven must be a nightmare with the tails hitting the other models...

**Vorian**

filbert wrote:
The price might be OK but the constant scale arms race is getting pretty tiresome IMO.

I had them in hand today and they were smaller than I was imagining actually. Obviously that's just my impression, but I thought the size was pretty good

**Rayvon**

Sorry if I am repeating what someone else has said but,

Can anyone tell me exactly what teams are in the Deathzone Supplement ?

And are the rules just the same as the CRP ?

I am thinking that I might just get my old Elf teams out of storage so I can at least have a game in WW without having to buy the new pathetic boxed set.

**BrookM**

From GW's description on their site:

In the book

Within Blood Bowl Death Zone: Season 1 you’ll find:

- Details for 7 team types (Skaven, Nurgle, Dwarf, Elven Union, High Elf, Dark Elf and Wood Elf) with background, rosters and famous examples of each;
- new official rules! Casualties, Expensive Mistakes, Play-offs, Glittering Prizes and more! Plus the official and sacred word of the great god Nuffle on the subject of running leagues – put your team roster together and play through a whole season of Blood Bowl, with all the victories, losses, touchdowns and injuries adding experience, growing your team into an unstoppable football juggernaut (possibly. If you win.)
- an updated list of skills (a big list) and new game options to try out – Piling On! Dirty Players! Break Tackles! Diving Catches! Really Quite Horrible Mutations! More!;
- updated rules for improving your team with the addition of coaching staff: Head Coaches, Assistant Coaches, Cheerleaders and Apothecaries;
- rules for Exhibition Play;
- the Hall of Fame – welcome the Bright Crusaders and the Orcland Raiders, along with their rosters;
- Star Players! Eldril Sidewinder, Griff Oberwald, Grim Ironjaw, Guffle Pusmaw, Hakflem Skuttlespike, Jordell Freshbreeze, Mighty Zug, Morg ‘n’ Thorg, Prince Moranion, Roxanna Darknail and Varag Ghoul-Chewer – they’re a in there;
- official reference guides for each of the 7 team types in the book.

**Rayvon**

Cheers, I didnt realise it was actually in the description !
I was that pissed off I didnt even read on..

Guess I am just going to be a cheapskate, borrow a mates book and use my old teams.

**privateer4hire**

Baxx wrote:
I wish two things were improved in Blood Bowl:

1) No laying down minis. How many noses, elboes and spikes must be repainted after a tournament? One thing Warmachine taught me was, do not flip models. Use tokens.

2) Just one simple rule saying that if the ball carrier can score without risk, it has to. This would simply remove the much hated stalling, particularly killing the fun for softer teams. It is not fun playing a squishy team against Chaos with the cage 1 square from the end line, while the rest of the team uses claw, mighty block and piling on for the few of your players still standing, while the ones who are down receive sneaky git and dirty player.

Use your Warmachine glass beads (if folks still use those) to indicate downed players, maybe?

I'm looking forward to this BB release. I don't own any previous editions and only have played a learning game or two.
Active support and/or availability of the base game is a major plus in my book.
I also like that the models are plastic and the new sculpts look great.

**NAVARRO**

I want those orcs SO MUCH! Hope someone sells them on ebay.

**Bagombo**

CAD pre-order page is up now.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Boxed-Games?N=1026815824+3252425321&_requestid=2811019

$119 for the box game, $203 for everything . Pretty good price for CAD, IMO. Prices Warhams-77 posted earlier are correct.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Natfka leaked a list and despite the typo in this one his price list images are usually correct (because they are from a GW order form).

**Ratius**

It is not fun playing a squishy team against Chaos with the cage 1 square from the end line, while the rest of the team uses claw, mighty block and piling on for the few of your players still standing, while the ones who are down receive sneaky git and dirty player.

Ugggh, that sounds seriously unfun :(

**Baxx**

privateer4hire wrote:

Use your Warmachine glass beads (if folks still use those) to indicate downed players, maybe?

I'm looking forward to this BB release. I don't own any previous editions and only have played a learning game or two.
Active support and/or availability of the base game is a major plus in my book.
I also like that the models are plastic and the new sculpts look great.

I've made perfect knock-down and stunned markers, filling entire square beneath the base of a player. But I would like to have rules stating them valid, instead of using them on available goodwill of opponents.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Wow... those Skaven dice sold out, as did their bigger bundle that had dice in it... in about fifteen minutes.

Hopefully Frontline honors the order my wife put in last night, because those dice will look good, alongside my Nurgle team, at least color-wise.

**Dysartes**

Baxx wrote:
2) Just one simple rule saying that if the ball carrier can score without risk, it has to. This would simply remove the much hated stalling, particularly killing the fun for softer teams. It is not fun playing a squishy team against Chaos with the cage 1 square from the end line, while the rest of the team uses claw, mighty block and piling on for the few of your players still standing, while the ones who are down receive sneaky git and dirty player.

It isn't that much fun trying to play a combat team (like Dwarfs or Chaos) against the much-hated high Agility, dodging, passing, leaping Elves or Skaven.

You get your fun when you have the ball, the hitters get theirs when they have control.

And stalling a score can backfire - I've drawn games I should've won when I went for one last block instead of getting the Runner with the ball into the end zone.

**Ratius**

As of now/last 6 months of rules (?)
Who are the top BB teams?

I havent played since 1996 but did play the PC version and Lizzys, Humans and Chaos seemed strong then.

What do you guys think?

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Ratius wrote:
As of now/last 6 months of rules (?)
Who are the top BB teams?

I havent played since 1996 but did play the PC version and Lizzys, Humans and Chaos seemed strong then.

What do you guys think?

Wood Elves and Dwarves will lose you friends. Ogres and Halflings will get you laughed out of the room. Everyone is is degrees of solid/fun. :-)

**Chikout**

So it seems this release is pretty popular. The skaven team and dice are sold out in many regions, the French language book is sold out. I believe the core game even sold out in some territories before reappearing. I hope the success encourages them to do more plastic teams in the future.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

A friend has told me he's planning on getting the Core set for our gaming club and asked me if I'll be getting a team.

I quite like the Orcs miniatures, but I want to wait and see what the Ogres and Dwarves are like. Currently in the first wave of releases, theres just the Orcs and Humans (Core) and the Skaven (expansion), yes? Is there any official indication from GW or unofficial rumour as to when the rest of the Season 1 factions will be released?

The Ogres aren't in the Season 1 expansion book, so does that mean they could be like a year away?

**Anpu-adom**

Yeah, I expect at least three season books. We still need stuntie and big guy teams, dungeon ball, undead teams, and chaos teams. Only 2 of those 4 will really fit into a single book.
That being said, GW developers promised a PDF for other current teams.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Yeah, I expect at least three season books. We still need stuntie and big guy teams, dungeon ball, undead teams, and chaos teams. Only 2 of those 4 will really fit into a single book.
That being said, GW developers promised a PDF for other current teams.

Doesn't the Season 1 Death Zone book have 7 teams? Why do you think the next book will only have 2 teams?