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SeanDrake wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

stato wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
The Rat Ogre would benefit immensly from some hair... and not being painted in nude colors.

I was also thinking 'where is the fur?'

Why does every star player need to be looking sideways too? I appreciate the current trend for 'dynamic' everything but just because you can doesnt mean you need to.

Fur gives opposing players a handhold - and on something the size of a Rat Ogre, that could make the difference between it being held up or not.

Breed 'em bald, that concern is dealt with.

Or looking at recent releases more likely FW have nobody capable of sculpting fur or hair. Even griffs hair is a solid lump a la GW proper.

If you look at the unpainted head bit you can see sculpted hair on it. The painted one just managed to somehow unhighlight it.

The paintjobs on most of these new Bloodbowl releases irk me as well. They're fine on their own but don't really display the models, feels too much like the painter wanted to show off their blending skills.

 AduroT wrote:
Oh, you wanted a Skaven Rat Ogre! I thought you said Shaven Rat Ogre.

Funny, but true. Man that's one bad paint job on a figure that wasn't that good to begin with.

From the photo is looks so unrealistic... I feel im looking at a Voltron model. The paint makes the angles look so sharp and blocky. Im just really not sure what is going on there...

When I think Rat Ogre I really think large imposing beast thats gonna stand up as big as it can and look at you like "ya, try and get past me" Like the IoB Rat ogres or the Stormfiends. This is so hunched over and diving down for what? A rat ogre doesnt need to tackle you at the ankles to trip you...

I heard Judge Dredd wants his eagle back.

 Rolsheen wrote:
The Puppets War models are looking better and better

Puppets war models? Are they making Blood Bowl/Fantasy Football miniatures?

I really like the pose of the Rat Ogre, but without any fure at all it looks completely wrong. Would definitely use an IOB one instead.

 bound for glory wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
The Puppets War models are looking better and better

Puppets war models? Are they making Blood Bowl/Fantasy Football miniatures?

They are.

Hi. I'm thinking about buying the Reavers and I'm just wondering; is the blood bowl game the only way to get the rules?

 Breotan wrote:

 bound for glory wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
The Puppets War models are looking better and better

Puppets war models? Are they making Blood Bowl/Fantasy Football miniatures?

They are.

Do you have a link, friend? Thanks in advance.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Hi. I'm thinking about buying the Reavers and I'm just wondering; is the blood bowl game the only way to get the rules?

No. They also have a free iOS app called My Dugout in which you can purchase the rules. I wanna say it was $25 for the base rules plus Death Zone 1 bundle? There are then additional things you can purchase in the app as well.

 bound for glory wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 bound for glory wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
The Puppets War models are looking better and better

Puppets war models? Are they making Blood Bowl/Fantasy Football miniatures?

They are.

Do you have a link, friend? Thanks in advance.

Their thread, featuring 'Ratbeast' in the title is literally three places down from this one*.


*Correct at time of posting

Not sure why everyone's bashing the paint jobs. They aren't mind blowing but, especially in the case of the rat ogre, there's no detail there to work with. Look at that face! A cashew shaped blob with an eye shaped blob in the middle.

Bit sad about most of these especially after the phenomenal Zug.

 plastictrees wrote:
Not sure why everyone's bashing the paint jobs. They aren't mind blowing but, especially in the case of the rat ogre, there's no detail there to work with. Look at that face! A cashew shaped blob with an eye shaped blob in the middle.

Bit sad about most of these especially after the phenomenal Zug.

I know right, the frigging claws had to be painted as there are no claws! It's obvious in the unpainted pics!
It's a fething disgrace blood bowl is receiving this kind of slap dash support, caught off guard be damned, this is just fething lazy.
The thought process is obviously just rush this gak out so we can get back to marines and Stormcast from every area of GW.

Link for Puppets War Rat Ogre
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=667

Not a blow your socks off model, but truthfully I think its a better pose.

 Rayvon wrote:


And a rat Ogre, in resin..





Really not keen on that Rat Ogre but Griff is the first new Resin BB scuplt that I actually like,
It was about time !!

Rufus, is that you? Where's Ron?

That rat ogre is indeed not up to par with the other sculpt work from FW. Some really dodgy stuff.

grefven wrote:
I wonder why they dont put some more effort into the paintjobs. The Griff one looks totally buthered, and I bet that a clean job would increase sales. The pose, otherwise, looks really dynamic and fluid, fitting for a blood bowl player.

I actually prefer the paintjobs FW are doing on these. Other manufacturer's like to go with the super smooth blending style of painting, but I actually like the rougher look FW are giving their models. I wish I had the skill to pull off the look FW achieve with some of these models.

But the Rat Ogre, bleh, the face on that thing looks less detailed than a plastic model.

I quite like the rat ogre . Even the IoB/Spire of Dawn rat ogres are somewhat lacking in the hair dept. Not that big a deal to me.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I quite like the rat ogre . Even the IoB/Spire of Dawn rat ogres are somewhat lacking in the hair dept. Not that big a deal to me.

The lack of hair isn't really the problem from where I'm sitting, it's the terrible muscular structure, the soft features and things like its weird jawline.

Also the pose I imagine is supposed to look like it's running forward, but from this angle it just looks like it's falling over.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I quite like the rat ogre . Even the IoB/Spire of Dawn rat ogres are somewhat lacking in the hair dept. Not that big a deal to me.

The lack of hair isn't really the problem from where I'm sitting, it's the terrible muscular structure, the soft features and things like its weird jawline.

Also the pose I imagine is supposed to look like it's running forward, but from this angle it just looks like it's falling over.

Well, they are pretty clumsy beasts. Subject to stupidity etc.

 plastictrees wrote:
Not sure why everyone's bashing the paint jobs. They aren't mind blowing but, especially in the case of the rat ogre, there's no detail there to work with. Look at that face! A cashew shaped blob with an eye shaped blob in the middle.

Because it's very rough. Which might be an interesting effect as AllSeeingSkink says, but in this case it looks less like a conscious style and more like rushed inability. It's backed up by the look as if the painter picked a convex area, worked it up from dark to white, threw a dark outline around it, then moved on to the next convex area. So you've got bits like the throat, left knee, inside left calf, that - while a little darker overall - seem to be getting the same strong highlights from overhead lighting as the back of the neck, the left triceps, and so on. It's blindly following some mini-painting tropes with little thought to the final result, which is not what you'd expect from FW, and only accentuates the perception of the sculpt as a bunch of rough geometric forms (cashew shaped blobs) cobbled together.

I dub it the Rat mediOgre.

I will say the Blood Bowl stuff has been some of the more underwhelming releases I've seen from Forgeworld. I think it doesn't matter too much since there are still so many third party companies who make Blood Bowl figures, but they're not doing themselves any favors.

Also, dislike special characters holding the ball (yeah it's silly but I don't like seeing three or four footballs modeled on the pitch...)

I'm sorry but with the high standard of releases so far, I know some people will disagree but on the hole they have been at least above average that rat ogre is hideous. The puppets of war one looks far and away superior in every way.

I do like it better, but it does still have hooves rather than ratty feet,

I think the IoB one still works better

Not a fan of resin models. I'll stick to the plastic ones (and the plastic teams).

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I do like it better, but it does still have hooves rather than ratty feet,

I think the IoB one still works better

Yea it looks like a really good minotaur, but the body shape and the feet are not how i want a rat ogre to look.

I just got high bid on a IOB rat ogre.

I hope I get it, as this FW one is gak. Mean to say, was that turned out on a Friday afternoon, with the bloke what made it looking at the clock every 10 minutes?

 Vermis wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Not sure why everyone's bashing the paint jobs. They aren't mind blowing but, especially in the case of the rat ogre, there's no detail there to work with. Look at that face! A cashew shaped blob with an eye shaped blob in the middle.

Because it's very rough. Which might be an interesting effect as AllSeeingSkink says, but in this case it looks less like a conscious style and more like rushed inability. It's backed up by the look as if the painter picked a convex area, worked it up from dark to white, threw a dark outline around it, then moved on to the next convex area. So you've got bits like the throat, left knee, inside left calf, that - while a little darker overall - seem to be getting the same strong highlights from overhead lighting as the back of the neck, the left triceps, and so on. It's blindly following some mini-painting tropes with little thought to the final result, which is not what you'd expect from FW, and only accentuates the perception of the sculpt as a bunch of rough geometric forms (cashew shaped blobs) cobbled together.

It's a conscious style that they just didn't pull off very well on the Rat Ogre. The flesh on the BB Dwarf models is painted a similar way, just done much better.

The effect they're trying to achieve is to make it look a bit like an oil painting, where instead of trying to create a super smooth blend you take colours that slightly contrast and just smoosh them together, it creates a bit more depth and a rougher look, it gives a look similar to some of Telltale Games' video games. However because acrylics don't behave like oils, it's actually a tricky style to pull off when painting with acrylics because a bad blend with an acrylic just looks like a bad blend rather than an intentional rough effect (frankly it takes a bit of artistic talent that I lack to pull off with oils as well )

They just kind of failed on the Rat Ogre, where it looks like they made sharp transitions in the paintwork that don't actually exist on the model itself, and the poor sculpting on the muscles just makes it look even worse. The muscles on the model's right upper arm look like they're barely sculpted on at all but almost entirely painted on, and painted on with an inconsistent lighting direction and freakishly sharp edges.

The plastic rat ogres might be better than this. No, not the nice IoB ones (who are amazing besides the weird fur patches GW uses), the freaking multi-part plastics. And those are hideous!

FW seems to be...fumbling BB releases left and right. Some of the models look like the worst offenders out of Fanatic or whatever they called it when thpse dreadful minis for SGs were released. My hopes for great looking plastic Rotters are squashed. And why do plastic gobbos over any other team??