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So slightly more expensive than BSF? Aiight...

 DaveC wrote:
Thanks for the price list OP updated with prices and other currency equivalents where I could find them

£5 per card pack is about what I expected so at least they kept them cheap(ish).

Any word on how many cards it is.?

Am interested but similar to a post above, was hoping for more background material rather than here are a few generic names.

£100 with my local's discount is going to be very hard to pass up on. Not keen on the booster pack style of getting cards, it'll be interesting how the secondary market takes them.

I wonder if GW using card packs like magic the gathering style cards is what they might move forward with for other games. It might be cheaper and easier for GW to produce and secure long term contracts for and reprints rather than the card stock we've seen them use for warscrolls and other supporting games.

It's certianly an issue for GW at present that they appear unable to get reprints done easily/economically for games that use them since it basically puts a time-limit on the viability of the product.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
£100 with my local's discount is going to be very hard to pass up on. Not keen on the booster pack style of getting cards, it'll be interesting how the secondary market takes them.

warhammer community wrote:Each set contains an abilities card, plus fighter cards for every model you can use in these warbands.

So it sounds like its a complete set of cards

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
£100 with my local's discount is going to be very hard to pass up on. Not keen on the booster pack style of getting cards, it'll be interesting how the secondary market takes them.

They aren't random boosters, they aren't even boosters. They are card packs just being sold in a booster formate package. If you want a card game comparison its like buying a prebuilt deck.

 Overread wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
£100 with my local's discount is going to be very hard to pass up on. Not keen on the booster pack style of getting cards, it'll be interesting how the secondary market takes them.

They aren't random boosters, they aren't even boosters. They are card packs just being sold in a booster formate package. If you want a card game comparison its like buying a prebuilt deck.

Let's hope they don't cop on that it's a viable way of getting people to spend money then. Just seems weird that they'd package them in that style and NOT have them be like CCGs.

Regardless, the cards if they're good will become pricey if they're only a single printing.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
£100 with my local's discount is going to be very hard to pass up on. Not keen on the booster pack style of getting cards, it'll be interesting how the secondary market takes them.

They aren't random boosters, they aren't even boosters. They are card packs just being sold in a booster formate package. If you want a card game comparison its like buying a prebuilt deck.

Let's hope they don't cop on that it's a viable way of getting people to spend money then. Just seems weird that they'd package them in that style and NOT have them be like CCGs.

Regardless, the cards if they're good will become pricey if they're only a single printing.

I think its purely GW experimenting with repeat orders from factories overseas. Card pack style might simply be a format more of those factories are setup for and its much easier for GW to order in repeat waves whislt the current formats they use appear to get one big order and that's it - which is a disaster for things like Killteam which they want to be long term products.

GW has no interest in you collecting cards to use your army; they'd rather you collected your army from their actual physical model products. A card collecting system would be disastrous to stupid because gamers would not stand to paying for random cards to use models they've bought in a game. Besides GW has a card game for AoS - its Champions. The only card collecting aspect we might get is if GW breaks up Warcry into waves of model expansions so we have core troops now - then beasts then war engines later etc.... Then again some factions in their starting line up don't really have huge armies to start with - most of the orruk armies are, what, a handful of troops, one or two leaders and if they are lucky a big dragon.

The booster pack style design is also used for various board game expansions. Hero Realms, Star Realms, Hostage Negotiator and Cards Against Humanity all use that packaging for small, fixed content expansions where there is no requirement for storage (they just go in the base box). There’s precedent for them not being blind buy elsewhere.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Of course this goes on pre-order the same week as the BattleTech kickstarter.

Right? Now I gotta make a decision for my hobby money this/next month. Cuz $150-$200 is gonna wipe me out for a while.



I was fully planning to ignore Warcry before that box set was revealed. Now I'm having to make hard decisions. Hopefully, the starter set doesn't sell out super fast this time around. That way I can just grab one in a few months when the rules have proved themselves.

I just really want that terrain. I like it way more than the other AOS stuff I've seen.

Can we please just stop pushing this baseless blind buy booster narrative, there's enough to complain about GW without straight up making random gak up.

The only thing we can conclude from the cellophane wrapper is that there are not a lot of cards per pack, which implies low model diversity in a faction.

€130 a bit steep, but not unaffordable. Puts it in the thinking seriously price bracket instead of the impulse buy for me. As is I already have far too many games I don't get to play enough... so the big question is would I get chance to play it?

€40 for 8 human sized models is a too much, €5 per figure... again puts them over the impulse buying threshold.

I might indulge at that price. pick out the models I want then sell some of the rest on.

Looks like exact AoS profiles with Bravery taken out.

Speed, Armour and Wounds (20 wounds on this fella!) in the circle, then a weapon profile line with a Melee icon, and numerical values for Hit, Wound, Rend and Damage (two numbers: 2 Damage on normal or 5 on critical hit for this guy).

From there being 20 Wounds on this basic guy, I'm gonna guess there's no Injury roll in this game. Also there are no proprietary dice.

Hmm looks more and more like Kill team - which I was hugely disapointed in.

Lack of customisation, lack of variety, hell they never even bothered to let me play with my Sisters in it.

I was hoping for AOS Necromanda

 Mr Morden wrote:
hell they never even bothered to let me play with my Sisters in it.

These would be the sisters who aren't yet on sale from GW right? I mean technically the yare, just as super high priced metal and plastic metal models that GW is discontinuing later this year to replace with a big launch of brand new shiny plastic models right. Cause I'd wager that's when you'll see Sisters Killteam.

Yeah, c'mon. Sisters will be in it once Sisters get a proper release. They don't want to print a bunch of crap for an ancient about-to-be-retired line of miniatures.

 stonehorse wrote:
€40 for 8 human sized models is a too much, €5 per figure... again puts them over the impulse buying threshold.

Don't the warband boxes also come with all the cards and stuff you need to play 'em?

Yeah 40 euro is a bit too expensive for me. Will give this a miss, not worth it.

Isn't it 16 models? Plus terrain...

I'm confused as to what this game actually is - even with the 5 minute video taking the time to explain. On the one hand its "for AoS what Kill Team is for 40K", but on the other its chaos warbands and will use a new range of miniatures?

Part of me wants to preorder it on Saturday in the hope its AoS:Kill Team, but the other cautions patience "wait for Tabletop Minions to explain it...", for it could be AoS: Necromunda with chaos warbands...which isn't a bad thing, I guess?

I already have Sepuchural Guard and some skeletons, and would like to treat myself to some Sylvaneth models for an introductory game, but something tells me I have the wrong end of the stick with this game.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Isn't it 16 models? Plus terrain...

No. They're talking about the Cypher Lords. They're a separate purchase and there are only 8 of them in that box.

SamusDrake wrote:
I'm confused as to what this game actually is - even with the 5 minute video taking the time to explain. On the one hand its "for AoS what Kill Team is for 40K", but on the other its chaos warbands and will use a new range of miniatures?

Part of me wants to preorder it on Saturday in the hope its AoS:Kill Team, but the other cautions patience "wait for Tabletop Minions to explain it...", for it could be AoS: Necromunda with chaos warbands...which isn't a bad thing, I guess?

I already have Sepuchural Guard and some skeletons, and would like to treat myself to some Sylvaneth models for an introductory game, but something tells me I have the wrong end of the stick with this game.

Read further down the store page - there's going to be stat cards released at launch for a range of regular AoS armies to bring their current models into warcry as warbands.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/14/coming-soon-warcry/

With more of the armies and likely all AoS armies eventually being represented this way. The only new models are for Chaos Mortals, all the rest use regular normal AoS models from your current (or future)collection; just like Killteam does.

Much appreciated, Overread. A pre-order it shall be!

man... eight models per box is a weird number (at least for my plans). I wanted to get the corvus cabal + capher lords / serpentine warband to use them as marauders for my disciples of tzeentch army.
But if I need to get three boxes that's not a great plan...

On the other hand: the models are really great

 Overread wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
hell they never even bothered to let me play with my Sisters in it.

These would be the sisters who aren't yet on sale from GW right? I mean technically the yare, just as super high priced metal and plastic metal models that GW is discontinuing later this year to replace with a big launch of brand new shiny plastic models right. Cause I'd wager that's when you'll see Sisters Killteam.

They sell the models, they got rules for Appoclaypse..... It would have killed them to put a couple of pages in.....

Anyway back to Warcry before I derail it....

8 models per box - Chaos number I guess.

Hopefully they will all receive Warscrolls for AOS as well - although I guess stupidly they will limit it to the exact contents of a box as they do for Underworlds etc units

Have they said anything about any kind of cusomisation because the video just talks about occassional boosts after so many scenarios?

Important question - do we get a Becca Scott "How to Play"

 Overread wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
hell they never even bothered to let me play with my Sisters in it.

These would be the sisters who aren't yet on sale from GW right? I mean technically the yare, just as super high priced metal and plastic metal models that GW is discontinuing later this year to replace with a big launch of brand new shiny plastic models right. Cause I'd wager that's when you'll see Sisters Killteam.

You can buy metal Sisters to this day, which means that if GW had included rules for them, you could have had a year of fun playing them. You could have played in that crucial beginning stage where people are excited for a new game that decides whether a community is formed for that game within a group. You could have played them when you could actually buy the starter set of Kill Team, or most of the Kill Zones.

Or, I guess, you could have just not gotten to participate because GW couldn't be bothered to write one page of rules.

Eh, it's all the same in the end, isn't it. What's the difference if you have to wait a year and a half?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, c'mon. Sisters will be in it once Sisters get a proper release. They don't want to print a bunch of crap for an ancient about-to-be-retired line of miniatures.

Come on, let's be honest. Do you really expect the basic Sister squad to change? Did Tactical Marines undergo such massive changes between their 3rd ed and 7th ed incarnations that you couldn't have based their Kill Team rules on 3rd ed kits? Sisters with bolters. Sisters with special weapons. Sister Superior with the usual stuff. Done. If they get any new options eighteen months later, that's a couple of lines in an errata.

Not that Sisters in Kill Team are the actual problem. That's just for Sisters players. But everyone else will have to put up with limitations in customization, should that come to pass. And let's not kid ourselves here, given GW's track record of implementing no model no rules and making so many monopose kits with effectively no options, it's not pessimistic to expect Warcry to follow along those same lines.

We don't know yet. I certainly have no intention of writing off Warcry until i have all the facts. But I certainly think a little caution is warranted because at this point I think GW needs to prove that they're going to break out of the mold and deliver more than the usual fare.

Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”

Iron Golems probably have one model less than the others because the Ogre takes up a lot of sprue space.

 DaveC wrote:
Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”

I kinda expected them to be base around their Patron God (if relevant) - 8 if not?

There is not a Nurgle focussed one is there?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”

I kinda expected them to be base around their Patron God (if relevant) - 8 if not?

There is not a Nurgle focussed one is there?

The warbands are not overtly god-based. They're realm-based.