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 EnTyme wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It begins, the great cringe of our lifetime https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

"Attractive redhead enthusiastically explains new game. Nerds complain about it. More at 11"

Indeed - she is clear, concise and enthusiastic. All good.

Add on easy on the eye and its a surefire winner for me

The website is good and Becca explains the game well. Love the battle axe!

Not sure how much the primary chaos warband packs will cost, but I might consider one of them - possibly the Cypher Lords as they are Tzeentch. Hmmm...

I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

There will be yeah.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

There will be yeah.

They confirmed that?

 Crimson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

There will be yeah.

They confirmed that?

Furies already have a model in the Slaves to Darkness army (its old). I'd also be shocked if GW didn't give the warbands rules for use in AoS considering that the character warbands for Shadspire have rules. The real question is if they are regular unit level rules or shadspire level rules. Ergo main army or fluffy nice to have but not essential.

Considering that GW is pitching Warcry as the "Killteam of 40K" I'd wager they'll be pretty solid rules for the warbands. Considering most are around 10 models if they are of equivalent standing to Chaos Warriors then that's ample model count for a troop of warriors in a Slaves to Darkness army.


Honestly I'm expecting to see Slaves to Darkness pre-view of a Battletome this weekend to maximise the impact of following on from Warcry's launch. Though I'd equally expect Destruction Battletomes as well.

I think it would be really cool if these would be viable battleline chaos units. An army drawn from these varied chaos tribes would be amazing.

I’d be exceptionally surprised if we don’t, in time, and I don’t know how soon, we get a Battletome, covering these tribes and similar.

Whether they’ll have distinctive rules? Dunno.

Danny76 wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:
I think there is a real missed opportunity here to make the Warhammer Underworlds warbands into 1000 pt Warcry warbands.

As mentioned before.
They wouldn’t play very well probably as they are so small.

Individually. But you can combine two to make a full Warcry warband. There's THREE Stormcast warbands, two Khorne warbands, plus Mollog's Mob and Zarbag's Gitz. Not to mention that they could be allies that mix in with others. Being chaos-orientated, Eyes of the Nine, Godsworn Hunt, and the two Khorne groups could easily fit in with the core Warcry warbands.

 Crimson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

There will be yeah.

They confirmed that?

Yeah they said it in the Warhammerfest seminar and I think they’ve said it on Facebook.

Had a watch of the rules video, gameplay doesnt really seem interesting enough to pull me away from the games I'm already playing. I don't like how it seems as though the unique faction/unit abilities that can be used each turn is only possible based on weather you rolled doubles/triples etc in the initiative step and the abilities (what they have shown at least) don't seem all that interesting/creative mechanically, compared to other games, which wont make the game very tactical/strategic.... its your typical deal more wounds, add one to toughness, take an extra move action.... yawn. GW need better rules designers.

 Crimson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder if there will be AOS warscrolls for these? Sure, you could just use them as Chaos Marauders, but given the uniqueness of the models it would be nice to have something a bit more specific.

There will be yeah.

They confirmed that?

On facebook yep

It's going to be hard to tell what models are what, just going off of the fancy names. The Corvus Cabal and Cypher lords both have two classes of models that look almost identical, but are different for some reason.

The stormvault base board is gorgeous, I'll give them that.

So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

Nobody in my group is buying it. That's only about 12 people, but it's just not interesting anyone. That's not even related to price.

 auticus wrote:
So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

That’s kind of the rub, isn’t it? If all of the factions aren’t out, it’s an incomplete game, better to wait for it to all come out. If it’s all on shelves and the game is complete, well now it’s a dead game that isn’t receiving “support.”

 auticus wrote:
So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

There are four copies on preorder at my FLGS as of now. I expect that to go up to at least 6 or 7.

 auticus wrote:
So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

I won't know until Sunday. I think their are a few people that are going to start, but I don't know what the AoS players think about it. I do think I will pick up the starter though. If other players are waiting for the other factions, that just gives me time to paint everything up. I figure it is going to take me a minimum of a month to paint everything in the starter once I start. If it takes a while to catch on, I just won't bump my Primaris army project. If it doesn't work out, I have a different looking Kill Team board and some nice painting projects. Fortunately, I think the two starter factions looking pretty good with the Iron Golems probably being my favorite out of all of them.

 auticus wrote:
So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

Seeing as how my "community" is basically myself and buddies since I don't generally game at the LGS, at least 2 of us are grabbing it. Just reminds me of why I stopped worrying about "what is the community playing?" and get the things that I like.

 Elbows wrote:
Nobody in my group is buying it. That's only about 12 people, but it's just not interesting anyone. That's not even related to price.

I'm assuming that your group primarily plays 40k (since you have a few thousand posts in 40k groups, but only 6 in Age of Sigmar groups). Just out of curiosity, did it ever have a chance of interesting your group and if it did, what would it have had to do differently to get your group on board?

They're mainly 40K. Mostly younger guys, so no other Mordheim veterans. My other gaming group (in another city, all older) have discussed finding the buildings/terrain on eBay for Mordheim use. I've been interested, but only in the miniatures.

I'm not the target audience for Warcry though. Never been a huge fan of short/quick/easy games. When I buy into a game, I go all-out. Thus the game has to warrant that for me to really get on board. GW hasn't intrigued me with rules writing the past few years. Necromunda all but disappeared in our group....Blackstone Fortress was played precisely one night....etc.

This basically just missed my groups completely. 40K youngsters, and old Mordheim grognards - no one really bit. I am going to try to source some split up boxes on eBay so I can try to find the two starter warbands for cheapish. Always need more gritty fantasy guys.

PS: I think three or four guys own AoS minis...I've never seen them play a game in two years, so I'm not sure they're really AoS "customers" at this point.

 auticus wrote:
So are all of your communities going all in on this? Or is it like mine where people are not going to touch it until all of the factions are released first?

"all factions" might take a very long time. Even if GW design it as an into to the main game they could keep adding warbands for niche-groups for years. It might even give them and outlet for sub-factions within armies. So rather than releasing 10 stormcast chapters, instead have a single chapter core of models and then various chapter warbands. It's certainly a more practical means to adding more diversity to the game without having to add huge whole armies.

That said viewpoints might change, we are likely to get a lot of news on the future of Warcry on Saturday which might change feelings. If the rest of the armies are coming very soon and GW is just staggering things one could envision it being quite complete within one or two months - at least for adding more core armies.

I'm referring to the factions that they have revealed. Right now, I have nothing to play warcry with and there are two factions I'd buy right now but I don't know when they are going to be released.

And a lot of people are in my same boat.

I'm in a similar boat- I REALLY want the splintered Fangs, though the Cypher lords look interesting enough to try out. Probably looking to split the starter with a friend, as while the iron golems and untamed beasts don't do it for me as it, a think a few head swaps on the golems, and weapon swaps for both might help them both a long way.

 auticus wrote:
I'm referring to the factions that they have revealed. Right now, I have nothing to play warcry with and there are two factions I'd buy right now but I don't know when they are going to be released.

And a lot of people are in my same boat.

I don't know. This doesn't feel like Necromunda, where it felt incomplete without all 6 factions and it took a year to get them all. I think we'll get the first six warbands pretty quickly - We've seen painted models and even box art for a bunch of them. GW never shows that stuff unless the models are imminent. Necromunda didn't even show concept art of factions until a month before their release. I think we'll see the remaining three warbands within a few weeks of release, along with the third ravaged land. I think the first wave of KT releases was about a month in and included two starter boxes (space wolves and orcs?) and a kill zone (sector mechanicus?)

GaroRobe wrote:
It's going to be hard to tell what models are what, just going off of the fancy names. The Corvus Cabal and Cypher lords both have two classes of models that look almost identical, but are different for some reason.

Well for the Cypher Lords...
Apparently one pair are skilled elite duelists, and the other pair are brainwashed mindslaves that are forced to train all the time. (which would presumably make them pretty good duelists)
But weapons aside, I can't see any distinct visual cues. And one of the slaves has a 'double blade sword' that, as far as I can tell, is a single blade on a long hilt that is somewhat (but insufficiently) different from the glaive that consists of a shorter blade on a longer haft.

 Sqorgar wrote:

I don't know. This doesn't feel like Necromunda, where it felt incomplete without all 6 factions and it took a year to get them all. I think we'll get the first six warbands pretty quickly - We've seen painted models and even box art for a bunch of them. GW never shows that stuff unless the models are imminent. Necromunda didn't even show concept art of factions until a month before their release. I think we'll see the remaining three warbands within a few weeks of release, along with the third ravaged land. I think the first wave of KT releases was about a month in and included two starter boxes (space wolves and orcs?) and a kill zone (sector mechanicus?)

Agreed. Models are done, boxes are done, first separate warband is on day one.
There will be a bit of a wait for the Spire and Fire bands, but I'll be surprised if the first six aren't out by the end of September (or even August).

This plainly isn't like the Necromunda mess.

Do Vanguard Hunters have all that many different upgrades to make a varied warband interesting from just a box of them alone? I ask as I don't have them at all, but it seems something like a box of Savage Orruks nets you more variation.

I had a great time using a box of 5 Liberators for use as a core of my warband in another skirmish game (One Page Fantasy: Skirmish), with all the varied weapon options. (Also used them for the original AoS skirmish/Hinterlands, too).

There are always the Raptors and Hounds to add in, but if you are using components from three different boxed sets to make an interesting warband, it might as well be any three boxes from the entire range of Stormcast, like Judicators, Prosecutors, Liberators, etc.

Same wondering as to why Bonesplitterz can't add in some Boar Boyz?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It begins, the great cringe of our lifetime https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

"Attractive redhead enthusiastically explains new game. Nerds complain about it. More at 11"

Indeed - she is clear, concise and enthusiastic. All good.

Add on easy on the eye and its a surefire winner for me

The cringe for me is the tone of her voice, she has that very specific American accent where every word is spoken with a high inflection. It is just comes across as very false and childlike.

Game doesn't seem to offer anything new, or noteworthy. Lovely miniatures, but that is GW in a nut shell. Not sure anyone in my gaming area are picking it up, so makes me less keen to invest in it, the price already put me off.

It is nice to see GW add more games to their portfolio, especially games that are designed to be quicker to play, it suits the modern world a lot better. Quick and easy games are easier to justify.

I wonder if like Kill Team, this will have several game mode expansions, I think having Warbands fight a big monster would be very nice, say a Giant or similar.

I wasn't sure, if I wanted to get a copy of warcry, but the "how to" video pretty much convinced me: I need it

The mechanics seem to be easy to learn, if it's hard to master, we'll see...
Also: I think Becca Scott is great. I'd want her to explain the world to me.