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I *really* wanted to use EG, but it is still buggered nearly an hour later! At least The Outpost loaded (albeit a little sticky).

So do we think that this rush is a reaction to how quickly the Kill Team starter sold out, only to have another reprint or so and then just vanish out of existence?

GW are seemingly finding ways to keep their great financial results on a roll.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
So do we think that this rush is a reaction to how quickly the Kill Team starter sold out, only to have another reprint or so and then just vanish out of existence?

GW are seemingly finding ways to keep their great financial results on a roll.

Just like other sidegame starter, they'll be sold out, or in the case of Shadespire, they discontinued old starter and replaced it with Nightvault, this seem to go in similar spirit. We'll see if KT got a "season 2" starter.

Element Games is back showing 488 left and 198 Cypher Lords so it looks like there is plenty of stock going out to stores.

Isn't Kill Team dead and buried?

GMGs lets play video

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Isn't Kill Team dead and buried?

GW released the Elites expansion only a short time ago and daemon and Eisenhorn rules in this or last month's White Dwarf. The starter and many Kill Zones are sold out and don't look like they're coming back.

I guess you could consider Kill Team half supported at this time. Though the absence of a good starter set is pretty bogus.

Yeah, we've still got at least two more KT expansions to go (Fast Attack and Heavy Support).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, we've still got at least two more KT expansions to go (Fast Attack and Heavy Support).

Don't forget the final expansions "Clash of the Titans"

 Geifer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Isn't Kill Team dead and buried?

GW released the Elites expansion only a short time ago and daemon and Eisenhorn rules in this or last month's White Dwarf. The starter and many Kill Zones are sold out and don't look like they're coming back.

I guess you could consider Kill Team half supported at this time. Though the absence of a good starter set is pretty bogus.

Also with the release of new Blackstone fortress and SoB.

KT is not a hard game to maintain, they didn't need new kit.

To those that do not read spanish, I present you Warcry's basic OOK

I am absolutely livid. This is the fliipin' cover, and you couldn't even run a basic spellcheck.

The preorder's done already. I am so hitting customer support and demanding an english copy. This shoddy gak ain't deserving of my money, even if its bundled with cool stuff.

Lets not forget the core of Killteam is an introduction game for new gamers that can be started very cheaply (they really only need a box of models - any established club will have rules and tables and opponents to play against). It also acts as a fast paced shorter game for those gamers who have not got the time for a full battle but who still want to game with their models.

It's a fantastic product that, whilst we've had killteams for years, is great being marketed on its own as a product rather than buried in the games big rulebook.


Warcry is the same, the only difference is that GW is using it to shift some mortal chaos unique models as well; which will likely form the backbone core of mortal followers for troops in a future Slaves to Darkness release.
At its core I expect to see Warcry steadily shift to replace skirmish for AoS - making it the intro game for AoS and the quickfire game for gamers who want shorter matches.

This will really come into its own when GW releases the second wave of regular army rule packs - getting the game up to fully supporting AoS.

Bulky item. Meh.

So I wanted to preorder from a German store, but it says my PW is wrong. Last time I ordered the site bugged out during Paypal referal. Dude, you're a nice chap and I want to give you money, don't make it so hard

The LGS in another town supposedly has a box for display already, so I'm off to the nearest GW in case they have it as well . And check out how big the Acastus knights are. Stupid expensive month.

 Overread wrote:

This will really come into its own when GW releases the second wave of regular army rule packs - getting the game up to fully supporting AoS.

Honestly? Then that's when I will buy it. I'm still pretty unsure if this game is going to take off in my local community right now. A lot of my players don't run armies that are getting rules right off the bat. Right now I'm just gonna try and secure some of that sweet terrain from the starter box, and I will worry about rules and stuff later.

Does anyone know what is the recommended point level / levels for a game? Sorry if it was posted already and I missed it!

 RiTides wrote:
Does anyone know what is the recommended point level / levels for a game? Sorry if it was posted already and I missed it!

1000 points, but it uses its own internal points system rather than the AoS one

 RiTides wrote:
Does anyone know what is the recommended point level / levels for a game? Sorry if it was posted already and I missed it!

A thousand points per warband.

 RiTides wrote:
Does anyone know what is the recommended point level / levels for a game? Sorry if it was posted already and I missed it!

1000 points but points are totally different to AoS your regular grunt here is 70 to 80 points leaders are high 100s and heavy hitters like the Ogor are 200+

Thanks . That's a little surprising, though, since they showed the card of things like a squig rider as 200 points. So 5 of those is your whole warband!

So a typical warband might be around 8 -12 models, but elite ones could be 4 - 5? And a swarm might top out around 20 models?

Warbands are minimum 3 models and max 20. I doubt you would even get 5 squighoppers as a squighopper boss would be more than 200 points.

I'd say you might run 1 or 2 Squighoppers as heavy hitters and load up on grots and cavesquigs for the rest.

Zarbags Gits might make the basis of a good warband as only the Fanatic is unusable throw in 1 or 2 squighoppers?

SE Vanguard hunters are 165 points so you'll probably only get 4 or 5 including a Prime plus some Gryph hounds.

 DaveC wrote:
Warbands are minimum 3 models and max 20. I doubt you would even get 5 squighoppers as a squighopper boss would be more than 200 points.

I'd say you might run 1 or 2 Squighoppers as heavy hitters and load up on grots and cavesquigs for the rest.

Zarbags Gits might make the basis of a good warband as only the Fanatic is unusable throw in 1 or 2 squighoppers?

Ooh, good idea. I don’t like the old goblin models much, they’d be a good alternative.

I’m basically resigned to never buying into Warcry. I’m quite interested in it, the minis look great. However, I have too many things to finish right now and, if Kill Team is anything to go by, it won’t be available by the time I might want it.

 RiTides wrote:
Thanks . That's a little surprising, though, since they showed the card of things like a squig rider as 200 points. So 5 of those is your whole warband!

The idea probably is to mimic Necromunda's army building, but without the restrictions. You can think of these expensive units as your heavies that you're no supposed to have more than a couple of. With Warcry's system you can, alloiwing you to build the squig hopper army of your dreams if that's what you're into, but if it's balanced as I expect, you'll be incentivized to moderate yourself and bring more bodies because otherwise you give up your ability to contest objectives.

That's my take anyway. How it works out in reality is yet to be seen, but given GW's general stance on army building restrictions (more open means more models sold), I'm not surprised that you'll only be restricted by points.

 DaveC wrote:
Warbands are minimum 3 models and max 20. I doubt you would even get 5 squighoppers as a squighopper boss would be more than 200 points.

Actually it's min 3 and max 15. The limit of 20 is for your warband list, from which you pick the 1000 points when you're playing a game. It's similar to Kill Team - you band may be bigger but you only play with a part of it, for "balance issues", certainly.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
I’m basically resigned to never buying into Warcry. I’m quite interested in it, the minis look great. However, I have too many things to finish right now and, if Kill Team is anything to go by, it won’t be available by the time I might want it.

My feelings on it as well. I like it, looks fun. But nothing screams "drop all your other projects and buy this." Since I know it will never get restocked again. I'll probably just skip it altogether.

Ahy word on multiplayer game?

 Sarouan wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Warbands are minimum 3 models and max 20. I doubt you would even get 5 squighoppers as a squighopper boss would be more than 200 points.

Actually it's min 3 and max 15. The limit of 20 is for your warband list, from which you pick the 1000 points when you're playing a game. It's similar to Kill Team - you band may be bigger but you only play with a part of it, for "balance issues", certainly.

I don't understand this - can the 20 models be anything, up to any point limit? And you just have to pick 1000 points from it before starting?

That would actually be pretty cool if so

Here's the wording from the rulebook

Before your first campaign battle, you can add up to 20 fighter to your warband roster. These fighters can total any number of points, but it should contain at least 1000 points' worth of fighters to allow you to field a full warband during your first campaign battle. You do not have to add the full 20 fighters to begin with - you can instead choose to add additional fighters as the campaign progresses. You'll be able to add and remove fighter from your warband roster after each campaign battle. When adding fighters to your warband roster you must adhere to the following restrictions:

1. at least 3 fighters
2. max 20 fighters
3. All fighters hare the same faction runemark as the campaign quest chosen.
4. Only 1 fighter with the leader runemark.

 RiTides wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Warbands are minimum 3 models and max 20. I doubt you would even get 5 squighoppers as a squighopper boss would be more than 200 points.

Actually it's min 3 and max 15. The limit of 20 is for your warband list, from which you pick the 1000 points when you're playing a game. It's similar to Kill Team - you band may be bigger but you only play with a part of it, for "balance issues", certainly.

I don't understand this - can the 20 models be anything, up to any point limit? And you just have to pick 1000 points from it before starting?

That would actually be pretty cool if so

That's how kill team works. So it isn't out of the question for it to work this way.

 -Ekko- wrote:
Ahy word on multiplayer game?

There is a team scenario and a multiplayer free-for-all scenario in the rulebook.