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Dread Master wrote:
Wow, GW hit a homerun for all those gamers wanting a burly women warband with the Darkoath Savagers. I mean, seriously, who didn’t want almost half their Darkoath to consist of burly, masculinized chicks???

I suppose when you're fighting for your life on a daily basis in a literal hellhole, you have to push the makeup and pushup bra to secondary importance.

But the entire set looks bloody incredible.

Who cares about all that.

Just look at the terrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who cares about all that.

Just look at the terrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh, looks like they just reused the same cad poses for sector mechanicus walkways and the ork oil rig and changed them slightly. Lazy GW.

By far, Warcry reveal was the best for me.

Terrain cover a Warcry board very well. And it's not often we have buildings of chaos industry.

Wonder about real modularity of the set, but everything in this box appeals to me. Glad we still have the chaos theme of Warcry here.

Still no new edition, which is good as well. Current rules are solid.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who cares about all that.

Just look at the terrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh, looks like they just reused the same cad poses for sector mechanicus walkways and the ork oil rig and changed them slightly. Lazy GW.

Not really sure where you're pulling that from

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who cares about all that.

Just look at the terrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh, looks like they just reused the same cad poses for sector mechanicus walkways and the ork oil rig and changed them slightly. Lazy GW.

Not really sure where you're pulling that from

I think I know where he pulled it from

This new Warcry box is the absolute highlight for me. It’s a good starter after the lacklustre Catacombs.

Huge swing and a miss for me. Half the Darkoath band look like female body builders juicing testosterone. If I get them I'll try to convert them to being males. Might be as easy as shaving down their breasts and adding bearded heads.

The design of the spider guys just flat out doesn't work. With the five spiderleg head mask motif just missing all the visual identifiers of spiders.

I hope that in some manifestation of cosmic justice GW get sued by the Robert e Howard estate or Marvel qqfor their blindingly obvious "not Conan" miniature.

Terrain has that stupid "modern (ish) tech in a fantasy setting" design I dislike so much going on

At least the male Darkoath are cool, and a simple headswap might save the not spider guys.

Set is awesome! Highlights for me : dope terrain! Darkoath Crone! Darkoath Conan! And the creepy spider dudes who are intriguingly anonymous!
Thing is though, no indication that we will see more Warcry. Will there be another year before we get anything else? Or is there more in store? Honestly, I would love to see a set with Varanguard that draws from the design aesthetics of the existing warbands to represent Ascended characters.

 Gallahad wrote:
Huge swing and a miss for me. Half the Darkoath band look like female body builders juicing testosterone. If I get them I'll try to convert them to being males. Might be as easy as shaving down their breasts and adding bearded heads.

The design of the spider guys just flat out doesn't work. With the five spiderleg head mask motif just missing all the visual identifiers of spiders.

I hope that in some manifestation of cosmic justice GW get sued by the Robert e Howard estate or Marvel qqfor their blindingly obvious "not Conan" miniature.

Terrain has that stupid "modern (ish) tech in a fantasy setting" design I dislike so much going on

At least the male Darkoath are cool, and a simple headswap might save the not spider guys.

Hard disagree. And considering Conan is public domain in the UK, good luck with that.

Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Happy that I don't bother to tune in for GW's presentations anymore, I think one of the past five or so have actually lived up to the hype.
The Darkoath, along with the Untamed Beasts are pretty much everything I've always wanted from the tribal, northern barbaric and shamanistic take on Chaos. Just bloody superb.

The homage to a certain genre defining barbarian feels a bit cheeky, but I can live with it. Again, super sculpt.

Then we've got the arachnid fanatics which are a hard pass for moi but that's ok, discount on the set when I get around to flogging them.

Terrain isn't particularly my cup of tea but it'll meld well with the Catacombs stuff which is the most important point for me.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hard disagree. And considering Conan is public domain in the UK, good luck with that.

That would only be of any consequence if they released it just in the UK.

That said, generic semi naked man is generic, so...

That terrain is probably the best part of the entire day's reveals.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Agreed - it works for their style and likely upbringing /mutations/blessings/varanite

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

Certainly not the way i expected this discussion to go.

Dread Master wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

...alright. Why?

Dread Master wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

Sorry, I read “two less burley chicks” as meaning you wanted the female minis to be less burley. Did you actually mean two fewer?

Dread Master wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

Yep, I totally agree with this take.

Anybody watch the actual stream? Was there any indication that more is in the pipeline for Warcry?

Dread Master wrote:
Anybody watch the actual stream? Was there any indication that more is in the pipeline for Warcry?

Nothing else revealed I'd say Red Harvest and Tome of Champions 2021 before Christmas and that's it for now. ToC will gather up the various campaigns and warband rules released this year. A Fools Trove even had number pages on the pdf (page 80)

Dread Master wrote:
Anybody watch the actual stream? Was there any indication that more is in the pipeline for Warcry?

No, this was the only thing mentioned.

 DaveC wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Anybody watch the actual stream? Was there any indication that more is in the pipeline for Warcry?

Nothing else revealed I'd say Red Harvest and Tome of Champions 2021 before Christmas and that's it for now.

Thanks a bunch to both who answered. Hard to gauge what level of support we’ll see going forward, then.

 Albertorius wrote:

Dread Master wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

...alright. Why?

Some people prefer fantasy where the dimorphic evolution of the sexes (as observed in the real world) is still a "law of nature" in force.

Some people prefer fantasy worlds unchained from evolution, physics etc.

If the Darkoath warband as presented fought Darkoath that were 100% male in the real world the all male squad would wreck the mixed squad. There is a reason combat sports and strength sports don't have mixed divisions. Same thing for fencing. In a fantasy world only the dice can decide.

Again, some people prefer certain realities to hold in fantasy and others don't.

Necks and heads on some of the darkoath are very odd - long & ridged and squashed respectively. Mostly all right, but enough sculpting quirks to the faces, heads and necks that I'm not excited.

Spiders are forgettable, with...ugh, that name. Very 80s cartoon villains.

Terrain...eh. I don't get the obsession with vertical platforms.

Not particularly excited, overall. Probably let this one pass (though it does seem better than the last box)

 Gallahad wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

Dread Master wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
Two less burly chicks would have been ideal. Crone, Axe Chick and sword and shield chick are tolerable, but all are grotesque.

In my opinion, they are exactly as they should be. If you want to play Warcry with murderous, but sexy, lingerie models the game does have rules for Daughter of Khaine.

Comment was on warband composition, primarily, aesthetics secondarily. Never said I wanted my toy soldiers to be “sexy”. Not what I’m looking for in my dollies. I’d be perfectly content if the only female was the crone. The posing of the two females I mentioned is cool, the other two less so, all of them are repulsive,ie, they don’t have to be attractive. Not going to stop me from picking it up, but also not something I wanted in a Darkoath warband. Would have preferred composition that was more grounded, as that many females just means Darkoath must get their teeth handed to them a lot.

...alright. Why?

Some people prefer fantasy where the dimorphic evolution of the sexes (as observed in the real world) is still a "law of nature" in force.

Some people prefer fantasy worlds unchained from evolution, physics etc.

If the Darkoath warband as presented fought Darkoath that were 100% male in the real world the all male squad would wreck the mixed squad. There is a reason combat sports and strength sports don't have mixed divisions. Same thing for fencing. In a fantasy world only the dice can decide.

Again, some people prefer certain realities to hold in fantasy and others don't.

Long winded way of saying "I don't want girls in my toys"

Yeah definitely too many females in that warband. I like the sculpts better than the males here though, which wasn't the case with the recent Stormcast stuff. Still kinda bizarre though.

Most of.these.darkoath.women have some weird ass neck and head

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Huge swing and a miss for me. Half the Darkoath band look like female body builders juicing testosterone. If I get them I'll try to convert them to being males. Might be as easy as shaving down their breasts and adding bearded heads.

The design of the spider guys just flat out doesn't work. With the five spiderleg head mask motif just missing all the visual identifiers of spiders.

I hope that in some manifestation of cosmic justice GW get sued by the Robert e Howard estate or Marvel qqfor their blindingly obvious "not Conan" miniature.

Terrain has that stupid "modern (ish) tech in a fantasy setting" design I dislike so much going on

At least the male Darkoath are cool, and a simple headswap might save the not spider guys.

Hard disagree. And considering Conan is public domain in the UK, good luck with that.

The COnan stories are public domain; the Conan IP for making stuff purposes is I think al owned by Funcom now.


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That said, the warcry stuff was also the highlight for me, even if the only part that interests me are (some) of the Darkoath models, and maybe one or two of the spider people.

I think the female models have somewhat weird proportions to them, but they might look better in person.

I very, very much want not-Conan, lol