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 His Master's Voice wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Quick question for the warcry players, is the game fun? Ive fast read the rules a long time ago, and they seems pretty bland.

The core rules are mechanically sound, but the peripherals are indeed a bit bland. It's a bit like Necromunda, but with all the fun of gear, experience, injuries and holdings stripped down into the most bare bones version possible.

Yeah, that's was pretty much my impression. Not a game for me unfortunately

I was hoping it would be a way to replace the std chaos range, but the warbands are their own weird & terrible things.

Its not very good as its own game or as a tie in product, unfortunately.

JWBS wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

JWBS wrote:
I'm taller than every woman I've ever met. That's thousands, a significant proportion of them probably wearing some sort of heel. And I'm not even freakishly tall. I think it's a pretty well documented phenomenon in humans. You can't really invalidate a law with a fringe exception and still be taken as genuine.

I'm 6'0" and I have easily met over a hundred women in my 32 years who stand taller than myself without heels.

I'm a bit over 6'1, but even so that seems like a lie tbh, quick google search says that only 1% of American women are 6+. Maybe you're a basketball coach or something idk, and perhaps you check their feet despite that it's a fairly mundane occourance for you (I only said 'probably in heels' because I know that many women do in fact wear heels, I don't often look tbh) Whatever, obviously doesn't matter, fact remains that this aspect of sexual dimorphism in humans isn't disputed.

You’re totally right, but it just comes down to personal taste. Personally I don’t care how realistic it is. Warcry is the closest thing GW has to an old school sword and sorcery setting and, for that reason I love it. The fact that half a warband is made up of barbarian warrior women who are not overtly sexualised is part of the appeal.

So yes, trying to claim Warcry is realistic is a bit of a stretch. Not liking it because it’s not realistic is just personal taste.

Like the terrain. Not a fan of either warband. At least the spider gangers are different. [Just different. Execution is ho-hum.] Tired of the barbarian leather fetishist look. The box is likely too expensive to buy just for the terrain.

Is this another $200-$230 usd item?

I hope not man. But it probably will be.

With all the terrain, id be really surprised if its under 200$

Lol @ people who have a problem with muscular chicks.

Great looking warbands, and some very nice terrain to boot. That shaman in particular, really like her. Like the other spider guys more than the leader. I do wish the poses were a bit less dynamic as it feels like they are getting too exaggerated, but I think they will look better in person. It all makes me really want a new marauders kit!

Excited to see the rules content.

I don't think anyone is trying to say your fetish is wrong, they're just indicating a lack of interest, your mockery seems misplaced here.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Lol @ people who have a problem with muscular chicks.

Great looking warbands, and some very nice terrain to boot. That shaman in particular, really like her. Like the other spider guys more than the leader. I do wish the poses were a bit less dynamic as it feels like they are getting too exaggerated, but I think they will look better in person. It all makes me really want a new marauders kit!

Excited to see the rules content.

I always think GW’s miniatures look better in person. Mainly because I hate both the Eavy Metal painting style and the way they photograph them.

I completely agree about the poses. I’m always pleasantly surprised when I see a GW mini that’s in a good, neutral pose.

I want my non-Red Sonja.

Conan't the Barbarian't and Shaved Wolverine are neat too.


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Darkoath are all similar as much as all Catachan are similar buffed Rambos and Ramboettes, every Imperial, being Fantasy or 40K looking lanky, every greenskin, every saurus, every so on and so on. They give me some consistency.

Now, some cases I just gave are about asexual organisms, but then how about Tau and High Elves? they all look pretty much about the same with and without the armor, yet they have heterogametic sexes.

In my eyes, they just look like a consistent faction, with that hag shaman looking different enough to think of her as the special character.

Also I love me some woman who can kick my ass.

Dread Master wrote:
Interesting aside, I just asked my buddy’s gf, who knows very little about wargaming at all, but loves fantasy and RP, what she thought of the female Darkoath, and her reaction was “Eeeew, those are women???” I was like, yeah, that was about my reaction too.

Maybe she loves the overused to death stereo of women being beyong beautiful in fantasy and RP.

Photos for the photo god!

I like them... so... has it been said that ALL darkoath women are super buff muscel heads? I mean do the ladies here represent their entire culture? Or is it possible these are just a group of like minded ladies that are in to fitness and thus bonded over shared interests?

While on average the males may be larger than females, exceptions occur even in real life. While you may not have a whole town of women that are larger then the males, you can certainly find 8 that are... the fact that the 8 have come together doesnt seem too far-fetched.

In real life I am 5'10... not super short, but not tall either. I have known a fair number of women taller than me, but the vast majority have not been... I have had a fairly good location mix... In the US I have lived in Maryland, California, Texas and Louisiana. I also have lived in Venezuela and Indonesia. I have personally never met a female body builder but they certainly aren't rare.

I think the minis are cool. Not sure i will buy the set... as everytime i get excited for a big box set, it either isnt available for me to buy, or the price... but I do like the minis in this. Maybe someone who buys it wont and I can get them on e-bay later on.

I like the axe and shield lady, and the crone.. never seen an older woman who wasn't a vampire or an undead mummy or banshee..

The price is rumoured to be $210 by someone on Reddit that got a brief look at the holiday guide. I can't find a $210 price on the US site for comparison $199 is £125 (Black Templars) so $210 is probably around £130.

The only fig that intrigues me is Momoa Conan... Momoanan?



Edit: Corrected for spelling.

 warboss wrote:
The only fig that intrigues me is Mamoa Conan... Mamonan?

Spoiler:

I dunno, he looks more like Not Important to me.

 DaveC wrote:
The price is rumoured to be $210 by someone on Reddit that got a brief look at the holiday guide. I can't find a $210 price on the US site for comparison $199 is £125 (Black Templars) so $210 is probably around £130.

So 175€ probably? Infinitely better than Catacombs for sure.

Great terrain, meh spider band, terrible darkoath band.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The price is rumoured to be $210 by someone on Reddit that got a brief look at the holiday guide. I can't find a $210 price on the US site for comparison $199 is £125 (Black Templars) so $210 is probably around £130.

So 175€ probably? Infinitely better than Catacombs for sure.

Great terrain, meh spider band, terrible darkoath band.

They've been adjusting the Euro prices a bit $199/£125 is €155 so $210 might be €160/€165

 warboss wrote:
The only fig that intrigues me is Mamoa Conan... Mamonan?

Spoiler:

IMHO he doesn't really look like Jason Momoa (proper spelling of his last name) in large part to the choice of skin tone choices used by the painter. However it does look like most of the artwork (especially book covers) depicting Conan.

 Ghaz wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The only fig that intrigues me is Momoa Conan... Momoanan?

Spoiler:

IMHO he doesn't really look like Jason Momoa (proper spelling of his last name) in large part to the choice of skin tone choices used by the painter. However it does look like most of the artwork (especially book covers) depicting Conan.

Thanks and corrected. I was more referring to the fig than the paint job but i think the paint is close enough to be an homage similar to the Infinity McConaughey (had to look up that one!) fig. I didn't mean to imply it was an exact perfect likeness though. Ymmv.

Since the second starter, did GW release any warbands?

Like, we got the shadow elves and fire men, but wasn't that it? Doesn't bode well in my opinion for future releases.

 warboss wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 warboss wrote:
The only fig that intrigues me is Momoa Conan... Momoanan?

Spoiler:

IMHO he doesn't really look like Jason Momoa (proper spelling of his last name) in large part to the choice of skin tone choices used by the painter. However it does look like most of the artwork (especially book covers) depicting Conan.

Thanks and corrected. I was more referring to the fig than the paint job but i think the paint is close enough to be an homage similar to the Infinity McConaughey (had to look up that one!) fig. I didn't mean to imply it was an exact perfect likeness though. Ymmv.

Spoiler:

It would more likely be an homage to the aforementioned artwork than the 2011 box office bomb.

JFC. Misogynist troglodytes seem to again be rampaging unchecked. We already had this discussion when it turned out the revamped Stormcast had some women too. These people make me embarrassed to be part of this hobby.

I think the assumption that any criticism is just "misogyny" is equally as embarrassing.

I mean... these aren't good minis. They just aren't.

Ah what do I care. I just want the terrain.

I think I figured out what the issue with the females is. And no, I don't mean the muscles. I think they took male faces, and just...stretched them vertically. No, I don't care about female meatheads being prettier than the male equivalent, but I'd like them to have skull shape similar to their male equivalent if that makes sense...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think the assumption that any criticism is just "misogyny" is equally as embarrassing.

I mean... these aren't good minis. They just aren't.

Ah what do I care. I just want the terrain.

Criticism most definitely was not limited to the quality of the sculpts, it was about the subject matter. And the same thing happened with female Stormcasts.

Those are some EXTREMELY ugly models.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think the assumption that any criticism is just "misogyny" is equally as embarrassing.

I mean... these aren't good minis. They just aren't.

I disagree, the models are very good, it's the faces on both that are jacked up. I'm hoping it's the painting as the spear wielder's face especially looks awful, but it's also got a lot of weird black warpaint obscuring it. Both of them are excellent barbarian chicks, especially with some headswaps from the plastic Shieldmaidens kit from Shield Wolf

Dread Master wrote:
Interesting aside, I just asked my buddy’s gf, who knows very little about wargaming at all, but loves fantasy and RP, what she thought of the female Darkoath, and her reaction was “Eeeew, those are women???” I was like, yeah, that was about my reaction too.

Maybe they aren't women. They kinda look like someone just slapped padded tops onto male models.