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Danny76 wrote:
Yes that was it!

So they worship that. Not knowing it’s actually Nurgle I guess.
Maybe why they aren’t as fully ‘Nurglified’ as some normally are when we get new stuff for his followers.

It isn't so much that they (or other Slaves to Darkness) don't know they are actually worshipping Chaos; it is their cultural interpretation. They worship Nurgle, but if one were to ask them about Nurgle they would have no idea what that name means, because they've never heard it. They just have a different name and concept of what Nurgle is. This also goes for many Slaves to Darkness; relatively few actually know what the Chaos gods are and can have pantheons filled with all manner of deities, with different spots occupied by greater daemons, daemon princes, actual gods, and so on. Some may overlap, particularly with the big four, being worshipped by different cultures in different guises (their respective books give examples of different names and certain alternative aspects).

First thought I had was poor mans Ex Profundus. (Might have spelt it wrong). Then I realized it's not cheap to buy. What it would be, $300 Canadian? Still looks like a poor mans Ex Profundus.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Yay! New edition and time to repurchase stuff!

They said on stream that existing players wouldn't need the new core rulebook/would be familiar with the core rulebook, which doesn't really suggest a new edition nor any re-purchasing necessary to me.

It would be welcome news if that (their comments) is so.

I read it more as 'not a lot is changing' and 'the old cards will still be valid' so needing to buy the new core and that's it. They'll probably do subsequent releases that update rules just like they do with codex & battletomes, and tbh I'd be pretty let down if they didn't.

They basically said in the preview it's just a change of setting, the core rules are the same.

So expect new lore, rules for the new warbands and new scenarios / quests, but otherwise it's same old Warcry.

Which is good to me, because it works well as it is and there's no need to remake the wheel. Sam Pearson seems to believe that and I support him fully.

 Overread wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Yes that was it!

So they worship that. Not knowing it’s actually Nurgle I guess.
Maybe why they aren’t as fully ‘Nurglified’ as some normally are when we get new stuff for his followers.

Basically all of the Warcry Warbands worship their own gods. These gods are basically concepts that the tribes and cities understand at a general unified level. However each worshipper or cult/group leader might well be worshipping a different Chaos Greater Demon.

This Demon "might" be a Great Unclean One, but it could also be a Lord of Change or a Bloodthirster or a Keeper of Secrets.

Yes their factions natural identity would be Nurgle, however there's nothing to stop the others focusing on other aspects and stealing them as worshippers. I think that the War Queen novella shows this well - though that tribe were aware of the different Chaos Gods by name.

In the case of most of the Warcy Warbands they don't know of the Great Four.

I'm hoping (as I've said elsewhere) that the coming of Hashut means that Chaos, at least in the mortal realms, will be opening up beyond the big 4 to showcase other full blown chaos Gods. Hashut and the Horned Rat show there is room for them.

 Overread wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Did anyone watch the show.
Who did they say the name of the thing the Nurgle people worship was?

The Great Leech!

Well, that sucks...

 Dysartes wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Did anyone watch the show.
Who did they say the name of the thing the Nurgle people worship was?

The Great Leech!

Well, that sucks...

Have an exalt!

Inside the box...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/11/your-journey-into-the-heart-of-ghur-starts-with-a-look-inside-the-new-warcry-boxed-set/

While the Horns of Hashut only seem to pay lip service to their god (none of them are dwarves, chaos or otherwise) the minis look really nice. And the Rotmire Creed hits an undead-ranger vibe I did not know I liked.

Possibly in for a set.

Wonder how well it would work if I chopped off the toothy branches and replaced them with leaves from that warhammer tree kit. The bark is different, but once the leaves are on, it shouldn't be noticeable

Still not feeling the Horns of Hashut. They're fine throwbacks to 80's fantasy designs, would feel right at home in a Conan flick, but they just aren't short enough.

I do like the Rotmire though. Not the mini-stilts, that has to go, but everything else is a really nice, understated take on Nurgle that isn't particularly common.

Not sure they helped themselves with the comment about Hashut being popular with Chaos Dwarfs, when not including any Chaos Dwarfs in the darned warband...

 Dysartes wrote:
Not sure they helped themselves with the comment about Hashut being popular with Chaos Dwarfs, when not including any Chaos Dwarfs in the darned warband...

Or it's the dregs and other followers of Hashut forced to make due with small warbands, while Chaos Dwarves are a proper army and have no time for them.

I can understand people being frustrated. Personally I want to see how it plays out with the eventual army release, but in the meantime it does seem like an odd choice.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Not sure they helped themselves with the comment about Hashut being popular with Chaos Dwarfs, when not including any Chaos Dwarfs in the darned warband...

Or it's the dregs and other followers of Hashut forced to make due with small warbands, while Chaos Dwarves are a proper army and have no time for them.

Or GW has no time for a proper chaos dwarf army

which isn't exactly unprecedented.

Voss wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Not sure they helped themselves with the comment about Hashut being popular with Chaos Dwarfs, when not including any Chaos Dwarfs in the darned warband...

Or it's the dregs and other followers of Hashut forced to make due with small warbands, while Chaos Dwarves are a proper army and have no time for them.

Or GW has no time for a proper chaos dwarf army

which isn't exactly unprecedented.

Last year I would have 100% agreed with this, but with the launch of two different flavors of Squats (Necromundian and League) I have hope to see Chaos dwarves in the next year or so. Not that it would matter a ton...I have way too many of the Lost Kingdom chaos dwarves.

Yea I have no lammasu in this race but I imagine it must be a slap in the face for CD aficionados to get Hashut humans and I don't know why GW choose to provoke old fans with this sort of gak (also see: cow elves)

I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry. The Lumineth were kind of marketed as a return of the concept of light/high elves but with a new twist and the idea of elves with a bovine god using hammers isn't a huge problem. Heck hammers are a very sensible real world weapon against heavy armours and not every elf has to be a dancer with a thin rapier blade. Besides that's the Daughter's of Khain's thing to be super dancers with blades. Let the Lumineth have some additional toys like war hammers and such.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Wonder how well it would work if I chopped off the toothy branches and replaced them with leaves from that warhammer tree kit. The bark is different, but once the leaves are on, it shouldn't be noticeable

I'm going to figure out ways to flock them myself- a big draw of the kit for me is just getting more plastic trees.

Maybe the Chaos Dwarfs in AOS come out with the Chaos Dwarfs in Total War Warhammer

There's more Chaos Dwarfs in other warbands than the Hashut warband that's pretty funny.

 Overread wrote:
I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.

Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.

I mean it wasn't really a bait and switch. The horse, spear and archers were in the first releases alongside the first elemental temple.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Warcry is the only GW stuff that entices me as I really like the low fantasy/sword and sorcery design of a lot of the factions (the crow and snake ones are my favorite) and the bronze bull look on the first faction is pretty awesome for that. Will likely pick this box up as I like the terrain and the other faction as well.

I liked a few in the first season, not sure on these so won’t get the box.
But could play Warcry with my Underworlds stuff too anyway.


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 Rihgu wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
Yay! New edition and time to repurchase stuff!

They said on stream that existing players wouldn't need the new core rulebook/would be familiar with the core rulebook, which doesn't really suggest a new edition nor any re-purchasing necessary to me.

When they first announced this was moving realms (last event or an article) they flat out said it’s not a new edition, but more like a season, moving to a new place to do more boxes like this I guess.

Probably like how Kill Team is now.
4 boxes a year making a theme is how that seems to be going.
I’d welcome that here, if they did a different two warband box after this one and I liked both of them I’d commit to Warcry probably.

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.

Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.

Kangaroo Cavalry was... definitely different.

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.

Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.

The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.

Why do people even call them Cow Elves, there's a grand total of three units in their entire lineup with a cow them. And they're lineup is extensive enough by AoS standards that you can just not use them, they also get regular-ish spearmen, archers, cavalry, ballista and such.

 Overread wrote:
I mean it wasn't really a bait and switch. The horse, spear and archers were in the first releases alongside the first elemental temple.

Yeah, and they said during previews that the army was going to have new, unique elements in addition to traditional elf units. It was about as far from bait and switch as it is possible to be.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Why do people even call them Cow Elves, there's a grand total of three units in their entire lineup with a cow them. And they're lineup is extensive enough by AoS standards that you can just not use them, they also get regular-ish spearmen, archers, cavalry, ballista and such.

And they aren't the better part of the army anyways, the stars of the show being the conventional units.