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Wha-Mu-077 wrote: And they're lineup is extensive enough by AoS standards that you can just not use them, they also get regular-ish spearmen, archers, cavalry, ballista and such.
A lineup which was released in two separate Battletomes (one in 2020 and one in 2021).
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Overread wrote: I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.
Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.
The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.
Overread wrote: I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.
Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.
The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.
Eh 1 week apart is the same release wave.
Well done guys, you've found the later release.
Try the original one, which were just updated high elves (June 15, 2020):
Though admittedly I was wrong, the archers hadn't been shown off yet. Just new spears, riders and characters (including a redesigned SC from the old books and a generic captain).
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Overread wrote: I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.
Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.
The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.
Eh 1 week apart is the same release wave.
Well done guys, you've found the later release.
Try the original one, which were just updated high elves (June 15, 2020):
Though admittedly I was wrong, the archers hadn't been shown off yet. Just new spears, riders and characters (including a redesigned SC from the old books and a generic captain).
The Lumineth Realm-lords Army Set is available to pre-order this weekend in strictly limited qualities (sic), so get online fast to secure your copy! In the meantime, check back tomorrow for another preview of the Mortal Realms’ newest army.
A boxed set which was only available in strictly limited quantities hardly supports your claims that the Aralith Stoneguard came later. For the vast majority of players they came out at the same time.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Overread wrote: I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.
Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.
The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.
Eh 1 week apart is the same release wave.
Well done guys, you've found the later release.
Try the original one, which were just updated high elves (June 15, 2020):
Though admittedly I was wrong, the archers hadn't been shown off yet. Just new spears, riders and characters (including a redesigned SC from the old books and a generic captain).
There were articles on warcom with pics of the cow related units in March, April, and May of 2020 with the limited box released in June 2020. There was no surprise after the limited box was released.
Overread wrote: I don't see a problem with "cow elves". They came right alongside spear archer and regular light cavalry.
Well, no. They came after.
They previewed a high elf reboot with spears, archers and cav, and then pulled a bait and switch with the cow elves and elemental temples.
If that appeals to people, fine. But the initial preview was traditional high elves, and then the rest of the army... wasn't.
The Vanari Auralan Wardens went on pre-order on September 5th, 2020 while the Vanari Dawnriders and Aralith Stoneguard went on pre-order on September 12th, 2020.
Eh 1 week apart is the same release wave.
Especially as week 2 models had been shown looooong time ago. You hardly bought wave 1 and then find out rest.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Phil Kelly explaining that yes, it's a new setting and they're very excited to explore it for a while.
Interestingly, some locations are shown on the map of the Gnarlwood and they are clearly bound to specific factions. Certainly linked to quests, maybe future warbands.
I'm a bit sad we're already leaving the eight points while we barely scratched everything it had to offer, but it makes sense to link it more to Ghur where all the current seasons of war will be set - making the bridge from Warcry to AoS (or the other way) easier.
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Sarouan wrote: Phil Kelly explaining that yes, it's a new setting and they're very excited to explore it for a while.
Interestingly, some locations are shown on the map of the Gnarlwood and they are clearly bound to specific factions. Certainly linked to quests, maybe future warbands.
Hopefully but I think we might be disappointed but maybe the Rotmire are linked to the Fens and the Horns of Hashut to the Tainted Wound? Talax’s is the crashed Seraphon ship.
They could almost rerelease the Deathworld forest terrain for this setting and have it fit more or less.
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Was it Red Harvest that hinted at a bunch of factions/warbands that were never released? I seem to recall a map and some intriguing icons, but don't recall anything ever being revealed.
Equinox wrote: Was it Red Harvest that hinted at a bunch of factions/warbands that were never released? I seem to recall a map and some intriguing icons, but don't recall anything ever being revealed.
Catacombs has a map with a Skaven symbol and other more generic symbols such as a scorpion that didn’t result in warbands. Red Harvest has a map of the Bloodwind Spoil that mentions Beastmen and more generic names funnily enough Rotmire is one of them. Maps haven’t lead to warbands but this is the first time they’ve been so specific with the faction runes.
They come from established factions. I can't place that skull on Ven Talex but everything else links to warbands that already exist. Could still mean they are getting new ones though, Nurgle already had warbands after all.
Ramping up the coverage day by day preorder might even get announced on Sunday at this rate, Red Harvest had a very short turn around from reveal to release as well.
According to Warhammer Community, in one of the first articles on Squats they claimed not Squats but the Leagues of Votann were back after their decades long absence. What is now has always been, until the next time they need to rewrite history.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
They said on stream that existing players wouldn't need the new core rulebook/would be familiar with the core rulebook, which doesn't really suggest a new edition nor any re-purchasing necessary to me.
As for me, I'm not rebuying everything. I've had it with GW's planned obsolescence. Also, I've gotten more pleasure kitbashing with WGA, Northstar, and assorted 3rd party bits than from expensive GW monopose sets.
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How many years has it been since Warcry first launched? I'm pretty hyped with how they have said it is largely the same with a few tweaks, since that is all Warcry needs to put polish on a great system. I'm not at all opposed to buying newer versions of content that is updated and better after several years, if anything I am quite happy to.
The big question is if it is actually an improvement. For a lot of rulebooks GW releases that is debatable so despite the above I can't fault people's pessimism. I trust Sam Pearson though, he just gets narrative play.
I'm thinking that the addition of Reactions is probably the big change for the "new edition".
It's weird to call what is most likely (by the community team's accounts, at least) small tweaks and maybe 1 additional mechanic a "new edition" when adding allies and monsters wasn't. Feels like those things shake the game up more than small tweaks.
I've also been speculating with my play group that they may make some sort of move to make warbands a little more pre-determined, as we see in Kill Team, but I've heard no rumors of that being the case.
Adding rules is distinct from changing what's there, and regardless the addition of reactions is a pretty big deal. It has massive implications for gameplay and does so for every match regardless of what people brought or what scenario they play.
Geifer wrote: According to Warhammer Community, in one of the first articles on Squats they claimed not Squats but the Leagues of Votann were back after their decades long absence. What is now has always been, until the next time they need to rewrite history.
And they just wrote some fluff that saw the Dark Angels and Space Wolves suddenly get thousands of new Mk.VI Power Armour suits that the Raven Guard were stockpiling! It's almost as if GW just released a new HH game full of Beakie armour rather than Mk.II-V suits... hmm...
The fluff is arbitrary and will always be changed/rewritten to fit whatever they need to sell. This is nothing new.
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No surprise that they are moving to Killteam type release pattern. Will that mean 1 new warband and 1 existing models with an upgrade sprue? Unique warbands is open to interpretation. Next box set should be telling.
Hopefully all the terrain builds into 1 big coherent table. That obelisk rumour engine from Tuesday is probably from an upcoming box for the Wyrdlights. Looks like the next box will release in October/November and be Chaos Legionnaires as the new warband vs ??? (maybe a Tzeentch Acolytes box with an added sprue?) basically Legionnaires should release before the S2D book as they are in it as well (in the cultists section).
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