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Terrain is the only selling point in this box. The stormcasts are both low effort and poorly conceived. The old metal ghouls are better than these. Easy pass. I mean who is GW selling to with this box? It stands outside the theme they seem to have been setting with the 3 Chaos powers vs the grand alliances. And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

Dread Master wrote:
I mean who is GW selling to with this box?

Warcry players, I'd imagine.

 DaveC wrote:

The older Underworlds warbands are cycled out of production at the end of the season that followed the season they were released in so that there are only ever the current and previous seasons warbands available (although with the new shorter seasons they seem to have the current and last 2 available). There is currently no way to get them. They might reappear in some other set at some point but nothing announced yet.

That's unfortunate, but thanks for letting me know!

Dread Master wrote:
And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

And one is even BLACK!

Dread Master wrote:
Terrain is the only selling point in this box. The stormcasts are both low effort and poorly conceived. The old metal ghouls are better than these. Easy pass. I mean who is GW selling to with this box? It stands outside the theme they seem to have been setting with the 3 Chaos powers vs the grand alliances. And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

Me, as i'm liking the whole box. Also nice way to out yourself.

Those Offal Hounds are Pumbagore levels of bad. They might be GW's worst minis in a while.

I like the Sigmarines for giving us a chaplain and castellan in the new style.

Not sure if they ran out of budget, doubling up on three bodies to make up the warband, Warcry usually gets more plastic love than that. It's like they weren't originally meant to be in the box (or Warcry in general) and took over from the Slaanesh themed warband we're missing from the series.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those Offal Hounds are Pumbagore levels of bad. They might be GW's worst minis in a while.

Aww, don't say that. It's just the paintjob. Give them colorful faces and rosy cheeks and they'll look the part.

Dread Master wrote:
Terrain is the only selling point in this box. The stormcasts are both low effort and poorly conceived. The old metal ghouls are better than these. Easy pass. I mean who is GW selling to with this box? It stands outside the theme they seem to have been setting with the 3 Chaos powers vs the grand alliances. And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

The Stormcast really are low effort. Aside from the Ghouls, the whole box is just low effort recycled everything.

This box has convinced me to give in and give Warcry a go.

I love the new Ghoul sculpts - hopefully we see the unit boxes redone in this style when their tome releases later in the year.

Stormcast could be more more dynamic, certainly but I like the more interesting decoration on them. I found the a lot of OG thunder strike models rather plain.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those Offal Hounds are Pumbagore levels of bad. They might be GW's worst minis in a while.

I think they're okay sculpts... for baboons... but baboons are outrageously out of place in a ghoul gang. Could have gone with hyenas, or vultures...

Ghouls don't see the world as we see it, chances are to them Baboons are just tribal humans from another race of men.

A ghoul Missionary likely went to the Baboon tribe and has helped civilize them to join the Royal Court.



Personally I'd put hyenas with Daughters of Khane

Yes but that's one of those pointless excuses that can justify anything, you could make the same excuse if GW included a parrot on a unicycle as a gang member.

 Overread wrote:
Ghouls don't see the world as we see it, chances are to them Baboons are just tribal humans from another race of men.

A ghoul Missionary likely went to the Baboon tribe and has helped civilize them to join the Royal Court.

Pretty sure they said on stream that the Babouls are Ghouls that were naughty and got mutated as punishment. They're not a domesticated species of whatever.

The question of their design is more if you find it believable that degenerate people would mutate into majestic baboons.

Also, kind of silly to paint them with a light belly if they originate from people. But that's just the paintjob and an easy fix.

I'm not a fan of either warbands, but I'm pleased for FEC fans that they've finally got some new sculpts beyond just the odd hero. I do like the Seraphon terrain, I wonder if they'll make it available separately.

Dread Master wrote:
And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

Aah, a misogynist. Welcome to my block list. Kindly escort yourself out of the hobby, or grow as a person. Thank you.

Oh, I assumed that the baboons - being close to humans - had somehow been ‘infected’ by the FEC delusion.

 Geifer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Ghouls don't see the world as we see it, chances are to them Baboons are just tribal humans from another race of men.

A ghoul Missionary likely went to the Baboon tribe and has helped civilize them to join the Royal Court.

Pretty sure they said on stream that the Babouls are Ghouls that were naughty and got mutated as punishment. They're not a domesticated species of whatever.

The question of their design is more if you find it believable that degenerate people would mutate into majestic baboons.

Also, kind of silly to paint them with a light belly if they originate from people. But that's just the paintjob and an easy fix.

Yeah, they said they are ghouls that did something bad like trying to steal from the king and they got caught and thrown to pits and they are starting to de-evolve to these things and they start to believe they are hounds.
So they are humans that turned into ghouls and then turned into baboons and everyone in the FEC (including them) believes that they are hounds...
But the miniatures are just plain baboons with a few bones on them which is silly... That's why i don't like them...

Ashaar wrote:
I'm not a fan of either warbands, but I'm pleased for FEC fans that they've finally got some new sculpts beyond just the odd hero. I do like the Seraphon terrain, I wonder if they'll make it available separately.

Dread Master wrote:
And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

Aah, a misogynist. Welcome to my block list. Kindly escort yourself out of the hobby, or grow as a person. Thank you.

Please block me too. I'm deeply racist against Stormcast. They are always gentrifying starter boxes.

I can get why folks may have preferred some kind of actual dog, though. GW have done some great hounds recently.

Well, with that fourth box, the set of terrain is apparently complete for a bit of time for the wild woods, since the roadmap now shows only more warbands going forward (and we all know the new "starter set in Summer" is that other leaked box with unrelated cemetary).

I expected more, but it's okay like this.

The miniatures are fine, these Stormcast are certainly the most fitted to what they represent - the parangon knights of mankind. It's just funny they make a whole unit of what was originally a lone hero in the army, but it's not that bothering. That's kinda what they are, in the end : an army of individual heroes fighting together.

The ghouls are okay. Their "hounds" are what I expected they would be : degenerate fellow ghouls who believe they're dogs now. They were always distorted as base design, it's not surprising they are as well here. You just have to like the concept of Flesh Eater Courts to like these, that's all.

The "common ghouls" are pretty much bland and not really that different from the Warhammer Battle old plastic ghouls. But they're fodder, so I didn't expect something outstanding here.

I think the baboons are supposed to be ghouls devolving into Frazettaesque apemen. They believe they are animals (dogs) afterall.

Sarouan wrote:
Well, with that fourth box, the set of terrain is apparently complete for a bit of time for the wild woods, since the roadmap now shows only more warbands going forward (and we all know the new "starter set in Summer" is that other leaked box with unrelated cemetary).

I'm not 100% convinced on that. The other box looked a lot more like a vastly cut down version of the game, more like the Barnes and Noble boxes - I'm not sure how well it would serve as a starter box. I do wonder if it'll actually be more akin to the Kill Team one - so a cut down version of Heart of Ghur, but with full rules, instead.

It seems more in depth than a Barnes and noble set. Although those do rely on reusing existing models, they never come with terrain, much less new terrain. I think that is the starter, since it didn’t mention that there would be new teams introduced

 GaroRobe wrote:
It seems more in depth than a Barnes and noble set. Although those do rely on reusing existing models, they never come with terrain, much less new terrain. I think that is the starter, since it didn’t mention that there would be new teams introduced

They said it would be old miniatures in the stream iirc.

I get why they’re moving on from Chaos in the next season, what with there being loads of chaos warbands now, but I feel for Slaanesh after we got Nurgle, Tzeentch and Khorne warbands this time and then… Stormcast.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I get why they’re moving on from Chaos in the next season, what with there being loads of chaos warbands now, but I feel for Slaanesh after we got Nurgle, Tzeentch and Khorne warbands this time and then… Stormcast.

They just seem habitually out of ideas of what to do with Slaanesh, they always get picked last for updates and get the least stuff. Tzeentch was bad too for a long time, but that got better. That being said, there are some rumour engine pics that could well be something Slaaneshi, depending on how strict the roadmap is with the Order vs. Destruction / Order vs. Death theme hey could sneak that in somewhere. Or even do some not-yet-fallen-to-Slaanesh order people that are seriously on the brink.

Slaanesh is a bad fit for Ghur, in my personal opinion.

Most of their forces and the hangerons of those forces are concentrated in Ulgu and Hysh, searching for a way to fully break Slaanesh free.

There was a rumor sometime back that the season after Ghur would be moving to Hysh, so it might very well be that they were held back for that purpose?

 Gallahad wrote:

Ashaar wrote:
I'm not a fan of either warbands, but I'm pleased for FEC fans that they've finally got some new sculpts beyond just the odd hero. I do like the Seraphon terrain, I wonder if they'll make it available separately.

Dread Master wrote:
And the mortal realms must be suffering from a shortage of good men, because now the SCE’s warband is 2/3’s female. What a pile of burning rubbish.

Aah, a misogynist. Welcome to my block list. Kindly escort yourself out of the hobby, or grow as a person. Thank you.

Please block me too. I'm deeply racist against Stormcast. They are always gentrifying starter boxes.

Damn funny! Have an exalt!

I’m grateful my eyes have been opened to my plastic misogyny! Thanks Dakka!

It does really read in the wrong way mate... I've been working with myself to not pass judgement without a body of evidence but I can understand why they reacted the way they did (even if I feel it is a bit premature).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those Offal Hounds are Pumbagore levels of bad. They might be GW's worst minis in a while.

Yeah, I gotta strongly disagree with that one. I understand if one doesn't like the Offal Hounds conceptually, but I think the miniatures are well executed. Whereas the Razorgor is a mess of a sculpt that makes no sense and doesn't even match the artwork.

 gorgon wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those Offal Hounds are Pumbagore levels of bad. They might be GW's worst minis in a while.

Yeah, I gotta strongly disagree with that one. I understand if one doesn't like the Offal Hounds conceptually, but I think the miniatures are well executed. Whereas the Razorgor is a mess of a sculpt that makes no sense and doesn't even match the artwork.

Oddly, i think the models would be better received if they were 'sold' with a better concept behind them - someone mentioned Robert E. Howard / Frazetta ape-men, and somehow that makes me like them a bit more. I think it would be cool if instead the usual (and already a bit tired, because we have seen it in a lot of repetitions already) 'lul they're inzane ghouldudez who think they're hound' they'd be something else, like actual feral beasts that slowly evolve a bit of fiendish intelligence by hanging around with the Ghouls and gorging on spiritually-infused living things, or whatever. Basically meeting the ghouls halfway on the evolutionary ladder, the beasts going up and the ghouls going down. That's all personal taste of course, but i think the FEC are already on the verge of flanderization with every unit belabouring exactly the same joke.

I mean, even if you wanted to go the comically tragic / darkly funny route, you could have better concepts, like the Hounds being actual ravenous beast, scavengers etc. like Hyenas that just hang around the Ghouls to eat their filth, but the ghouls are convinced they're noble hounds.