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Prices

Warbands at £35 rather than the more recent £37.50, Hunter & Hunted about what I expected £10 for the terrain and book effectively, SoT set same price as prior terrain sets.

So probably 105€ starter, 85€ terrain, 45€ warbands... not good not awful.

Not bad. Nice to see the warbands haven't had the usual stealth new release increase and after third parties, most of this will be decent value. Scenery is the only one that's grossly overpriced, but at least it's not direct only.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So probably 105€ starter, 85€ terrain, 45€ warbands... not good not awful.

Yep

$130 for Hunter and Hunted is less than ideal.

 Kanluwen wrote:
$130 for Hunter and Hunted is less than ideal.

Especially considering conversion rates from GBP to USD.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
$130 for Hunter and Hunted is less than ideal.

Especially considering conversion rates from GBP to USD.

They've never been good about that though?

This set just feels hefty, USD. It feels like a swap situation rather than multiples for me to get the Wildercorps.

I would not have expected Hunter and Hunted to be the most expensive of the previewed products. I guess they expect it to be high-demand?

chaos0xomega wrote:
I would not have expected Hunter and Hunted to be the most expensive of the previewed products. I guess they expect it to be high-demand?

Huh, why not? It's the boxed set of the quarter. Two teams, book, terrain, piddly as it is.

Is it the next quarter boxed set? I guess they reworked the concept, given that theres barely any terrain in the box (and what terrain is there looks to be more of a faction terrain piece or maybe an overglorified objective marker/narrative feature) and its not a "big format" box like previous Kill Team and WarCry releases.

In my mind it was like a $90-100 box absent the terrain as a sort of new "starter set", similar to the Deathgorge/Underworlds Starter boxes (which looks to be the same size) or just a random one-off release separate from the big quarterly box.

Personally I would have thought the Ravaged Lands terrain box to be the most expensive on order, thats a pretty hefty amount of plastic and terrain sets tend not to sell in large volumes, which usually translates to a price premium to offset cost.

I interpret this wave as a "stealth" (in GW's own mind, tho quite blatant to customers) price hike. They just went ahead and took the terrain out of the big box and made it day 1 DLC with a combined price significantly above what you paid for the same amount of stuff last time.

Frankly, I think this is just them trying to play catch up while also building up the season. They billed this as "an expansion" rather than a full bit like usual.

Yeah, it wasn't a stealth price hike to me. I mean, when you put it in those terms it sure is, but under the assumption that there was still a "big box" coming our way I just assumed that these were "bonus" releases/standalone "expansions" separate from the quarterly cycle or something.

On that note, the standalone release of the Monsta-killaz and Flameseekers also strikes me as odd - they were not released in a head-to-head box, and we haven't had a standalone one-off warcry team like this since very early on during initial launch of the game IIRC. They were clearly thematically intended to oppose one another, the monsta-killaz are about killing monsters and the flameseekers are about basically playing pokemon with Magmadroth eggs or whatever. I wonder if the previewed terrain set was originally intended for a box set featuring them?

I don't think it was.

Tin-foil-hat time, but I think these two sets were intended to be released alongside the Dawnbringer Crusade books.

There was one standalone chaos gang released at the start of Meat Tree season. A year ago I guess.

The Chaos Legionnaires, who were meant to go with Be'lakor.

To be fair I'd like to see no more Chaos Warbands for a while - they've got a lions share

I'm fine with the last 3. Beasts, Skaven, and Slaanesh.

Oh yeah by Chaos I mean purely the Slaves to Darkness - they had a whole bunch at the start so yes by all means the other Chaos armies can have Warcry sets.

I think I could live without any more StD gangs for the rest of my life honestly. Also no more baboon gangers, that's been a weird meme this season.

Well gak. I had my eye on that terrain. Figures.

 Kanluwen wrote:
$130 for Hunter and Hunted is less than ideal.

It's not great by any means, but I really don't think it's that bad in relation to other GW products (absurd GBP to USD conversions withstanding). You get two full warbands that are 60 USD each, so for 10 USD you get their campaign book and a (at least on Warcry boards) centerpiece sized terrain piece. I imagine the book will probably be 40 USD and the terrain 50 USD, so the savings isn't terrible. Especially compared to stuff like Crypt of Blood.

I'm definitely going to pick it up BUT I want both warbands and think the Sarlaac Pit is pretty cool. If you only want one warband, I can see it being a steep ask (though less steep than the previous season boxes if you only wanted one thing in them).

What I'm more shocked with is that terrain set being 115. Feels like it should 90 with the amount of terrain in there.

I was going to buy Hunter and Hunted,...but not at that price. I didn't like the stupid "my eyes are covered!" thing of one of the big guys anyways.

I've bought Red Harvest, Heart of Ghur, Sundered Fate and Blood Hunt... Guess I've got enough!

Just can't bring myself to pay that much for that little.

It's an okay box if you like everything (I do)

traditionally the discount on these things was enough that it was a good buy even if you didn't like one of the things. No more.

I can get hold of Sundered Fate and Crypt of Blood still here in the UK - are either of those worth it? I like at least one faction in each, but haven't played WarCry since hammering it for 6 months after it was first launched.

Rumours are that the next Kill team set is not going to be a "big box" either. If it pans out then this is probably GW's new strategy for its skirmish games. Personally I would prefer not having warbands locked into a big box alongside other stuff that I may not be interested in for six months. But I can certainly see the other side, where if you do want everything in the release it costs more.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Rumours are that the next Kill team set is not going to be a "big box" either. If it pans out then this is probably GW's new strategy for its skirmish games. Personally I would prefer not having warbands locked into a big box alongside other stuff that I may not be interested in for six months. But I can certainly see the other side, where if you do want everything in the release it costs more.

The best way would obviously be to have both at the same time. Give us a box with a discount over buying everything separately but having to buy everything and release the individual kits at the same time. This way all customers would be happy. But that's exactly the problem, it would be the customers that will be happy. GW is happy with whatever solution is more profitable. We'll have to see which one that turns out to be.

Remind me please, is there a slot in the current release plan for another Destruction warband? I would love to see some crazy Gloomspite force.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Remind me please, is there a slot in the current release plan for another Destruction warband? I would love to see some crazy Gloomspite force.

Unknown for now, the next 2 are Order and Death, the final 2 announced for next Spring 2024 haven’t been disclosed.

 DaveC wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Remind me please, is there a slot in the current release plan for another Destruction warband? I would love to see some crazy Gloomspite force.

Unknown for now, the next 2 are Order and Death, the final 2 announced for next Spring 2024 haven’t been disclosed.

So there is hope for the future!