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Showed up after the FFG Panel.

 Manchu wrote:

Spoiler:

Notes:

Create roster of ten characters. Characters have Threat Values (points values) for assigning them to Missions (scenarios).

You have Team Tactics cards and Crisis cards.

Roll for priority.

Each player draws a Crisis card — simultaneous reveal. The combination creates a Mission.

Each of those two Crisis cards has a Threat Value. Player with priority picks one and each player can assemble a team (from their 10-character Roster) for that Mission up to that Threat Value.

Suggested Threat Value to play out of Core Box is 17. Black Widow = Threat 2. Hulk = Threat 6.

3x3 play area. Emphasis on terrain, including interactive terrain.

The game will also see terrain packs with famous locations from the Marvel Universe and will also include multiple modes of play. The first up is Raids where two individuals team up to take on a “boss” controlled by a third player. Narrative campaign sets will also be released down the road.

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I haven’t liked Marvel very much since I was a kid but must admit this is kind of exciting.

I’m always a fan of making terrain a first class citizen in a miniature game, but this is, what, the third or fourth Marvel miniatures game? It’s hard to get excited about another thing which is like this other thing, but now with more Captain Marvel and Black Panther. Yay!

I only know of heroclix and the one knight models had for like a minute before they gave it up for DC only.

nagash42 wrote:
I only know of heroclix and the one knight models had for like a minute before they gave it up for DC only.

You’re missing Marvel Heroscape and that crappy Attacktix game (like Heroclix, but shoots stuff).

Personally, I don’t think of *clix games and similar toy lines as gaming material. And I have never had much interest in Knight’s stuff, although bringing the Batman stuff into plastic is interesting. So for me, this might as well be the very first Marvel miniatures game as nothing that has come before was really in my wheelhouse.

I think they should rename him MODOT: Mental Organism Designed Only for Tokens.

 Manchu wrote:
Personally, I don’t think of *clix games and similar toy lines as gaming material.

HeroClix has a rather huge cult following and is a pretty complicated game. I don’t play because of the collectible aspect, but I do consider it a legitimate miniatures game. I also consider Mage Knight, Star Wars Miniatures, and all those other collectible miniatures games (DnD, Axis and Allies, MechWarrior, Pirates of the Spanish Main, 1st edition Monsterpocalypse) to be pretty legit. Even Heroscape - though the game is a bit slight, it still has the most impressive terrain system I’ve ever seen. With better miniatures and non-collectible, these games would be amazing (like Monsterpocalypse became).

Yeah, all the collectible stuff is well out of my area of interest, just doesn’t scratch the hobby itch that is a key part of all this for me. Fair play to people who like that stuff.

MWDA was aweful.

 Manchu wrote:
Yeah, all the collectible stuff is well out of my area of interest, just doesn’t scratch the hobby itch that is a key part of all this for me. Fair play to people who like that stuff.

A lot of people strip the models (good old Simple Green), then repaint and base them. Turns out, the sculpts aren’t as bad as they look. Not great, but not. bad. I did a repaint on a Halo MegaBlox mini figure and the results were fantastic - it’s amazing how much detail a flat, glossy paint job obscures. But then I saw how much a collectible game can cost, and I instant rethought my opinion that GW was too expensive.

Just to get back on topic, I may get the two player starter box, depending on price. 10 miniatures plus 5 or 6 large terrain pieces won’t be cheap, but this is Asmodee, so they may price the starter competitively. I’m guessing $100 max. I’ll paint them glossy and flat, to get the HeroClix feel...

Yeah I am surprising myself by how enthusiastic I am about this. Good chance of picking up the starter and Hulk!

My understanding is Will Pagani is involved with this game/company. He was one of the top competitive Warmachine players for awhile and went on to be a rules developer for Privateer Press for a year or so before he left there to work on his own game.

Really excited about this release. I was devastated when the Knight Model line was discontinued, because the models were amazing.

A full release in PLASTIC, with a well known trendy IP and competitive game developers gives me high hopes that this will succeed.

I'm all in at this point, if only because of the minis and terrain. PLEASE BE GOOD.

If anyone's at gen-con who can demo the game, please try it out and give us some feedback on game mechanics!

So here we go, official page:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/7/31/marvel-champions/

disregard, that is an unrelated card game

Where is the terrain that folks are talking about, please?
Sorry but it's late and maybe I'm just staring right through it.
Thanks.

Notes:

Create roster of ten characters. Characters have Threat Values (points values) for assigning them to Missions (scenarios).

You have Team Tactics cards and Crisis cards.

Roll for priority.

Each player draws a Crisis card — simultaneous reveal. The combination creates a Mission.

Each of those two Crisis cards has a Threat Value. Player with priority picks one and each player can assemble a team (from their 10-character Roster) for that Mission up to that Threat Value.

Suggested Threat Value to play out of Core Box is 17. Black Widow = Threat 2. Hulk = Threat 6.

3x3 play area. Emphasis on terrain, including interactive terrain.

The game will also see terrain packs with famous locations from the Marvel Universe and will also include multiple modes of play. The first up is Raids where two individuals team up to take on a “boss” controlled by a third player. Narrative campaign sets will also be released down the road.

source

Cannot wait to get everything that comes out for this

On closer inspection, it actually looks like there's some partnership with FFG?

IF so, that bodes well for the game, FFG has had great game design so far, and awesome prize support/competitive formats.

Really looking forward to seeing some reporting/information from audience members at gencon.

Seems like Atomic Mass Games, like FFG, is also owned by Asmodee.

No matter how good the sculpts and rules might be, I just can't get excited about a game of throwing a bunch of established characters at each other.

Some other pics from the FFG report:

- hard plastic sprues

- terrain included in core box

This actually looks pretty cool. I am pretty sick of Marvel movies (there are just too many at this point - except for Guardians of the Galaxy), but a proper miniatures game could pretty fun. I'll be eagerly awaiting to find out more about this.

The only con I see so far is Doc Oc in the starter instead of one of the Goblins or Mysterio (I was a Spiderman kid growing up).

Well, this looks interesting. I look forward to hearing about price next.

This looks so exciting. I was devastated after the Knights Models line got dropped as I'd been wanting marvel minis for year. Are these pre-painted models though? I would really love to be able to paint them my way.

Going to be watching this thread.

based on Manchu's post and a video with building instructions I've seen, it appears to be unpainted

I am interested in this, but with Legion FFG decided to change scale from previous versions of the game.. Star Wars by WotC, Knight models and Imperial Assault
all had a compatibility scale, but Legion models look like giants and very hard to mix together with my older collect and not in the mood to rebuy it.

Scale is very important to me as the quality of the miniatures. Asmodee and FFG has improved their quality of sculpts but this still keeps me in the wait and see zone.

Main issue with scale for me is that I already have a load of city terrain for Batman/DC and Walking Dead. I really don’t want to have to start again due to a 20% scale increase.

 AduroT wrote:
My understanding is Will Pagani is involved with this game/company. He was one of the top competitive Warmachine players for awhile and went on to be a rules developer for Privateer Press for a year or so before he left there to work on his own game.

It's more than just Pagani. When PP had that mass exodus of developers a little while back; rumor was they were starting their own company. Looks like we know what lured them away.

Aeneades wrote:
Main issue with scale for me is that I already have a load of city terrain for Batman/DC and Walking Dead. I really don’t want to have to start again due to a 20% scale increase.

Oh that’s dumb. They really should have kept it in line with peoples existing terrain collections.