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**Danny76**

scarletsquig wrote:
krijthebold wrote:
Certainly curious about how the Plague box is going to measure up.

I can help with that, here's a list using the plague strike force contents which comes to 1215 points, focuses on melee and a lot of pinning/ indirect fire weapons, classic plague playstyle.

Lord - 150
9x Stage 3A - HMG, Dog - 125
5x Stage 3A - HMG, Dog - 85
5x Stage 3A - HMG, Dog - 85
5x Stage 3A - HMG, Dog - 85
30x zombie - 1258
Plague Mule (laser cannon) - 65
2x Weapon Team (mortar) - 105
2x Weapon Team (mortar) - 105
2x Weapon Team (mortar) - 105
Aberration - 90
Aberration - 90

Not even completely maxed out, if you build two plague 3As as generals from the plastics you can get to 1300, but that's probably pushing it.

There are numerous builds possible with the box (3a's alone have 5 special weapon options, leader weapons and dog) and they are all going to come in at over 1000 points.

You can even pop three dogs on a 40mm base and call it a plague swarm if you're not keen on the unit attachment option, kinda like the rippers that come with tyranid sets.

The plague really lucked out with their strike force, it's better value than the older army sets from Mantic and a 44% discount compared to buying seperately, only the starter set beats it in value.

Strike Force + a few extras gets you a complete 1500 point army for most of the factions. Starter set + Strike Force works perfectly for Enforcers and Marauders.

That is a great idea to make swarms, I think I have enough dogs spare for that.

Where are these points from? Can I make a list online or is that from book or some such?

**kodos**

I guess he has them from the playtesters rulebook copy

the online army builder is not open yet (but will be there on release)

**Danny76**

Ok cool. As long as I haven’t missed anything.
Got a load of on foot Plague and Veermyn to cost up soon

**kodos**

Die neuen Plague Starter/Booster für Deadzone sind nun im Shop zur Pre-Order

https://www.manticgames.com/news/friday-feature-plague-pre-orders/

Infection Starter, 35€
10x Plastic Plague 3rd Generation troopers (and two dogs)
1x Resin Plague Sentient

Outbreak Booster, 35€
10x Plastic Plague Zombies Sprue
2x Resin Plague Swarms

Mutations Booster, 35€
1x Resin Plague 1st Gen
1x Resin plague Teraton

Corruption (Resin), 20€

Leapers (Resin), 30€

**Danny76**

I was wondering what the corruption was when I saw it in the list..

**Gimgamgoo**

I wanted the Corruption and Sentient to complete my Plague Deadzone faction.
The Corruption, much like the Vanguard equivalent, looks like the base is too big for it. The Sentient is not available on its own, but I've been reassured on fb that it will be eventually after the initial release.
#waitingabitlonger

**kodos**

FireFight is now live on easy army

https://mantic.easyarmy.com/FireFight

**Tamereth**

That new plague stuff looks good, might pick it up and actually paint my old dead zone set.

Loving the new colour scheme they are using for them as well.

**Wha-Mu-077**

The plastic zombies look so out of place with that paintjob.

**krijthebold**

I am definitely happy to see new leapers. The old ones were... a pain.

**Danny76**

Well I’ve signed up to the list builder thing.
I both really like it and don’t.
Really like that it has the pictures and all the easy tick box bits etc.

Now the task of punching in all the totals to see where I’m at.

**kodos**

going again over the Strike Force Boxes with the list builder I get:

Marauders: 976 points
Asterians: 960 points
Plague: 1220 points
GCPS: 1065 points
Veer-Myn: 985 points
Forge Fathers: 1335 points
Enforcers: 1100 points

**Manchu**

The starter forces are pretty cool but will Mantic follow up with more packs to support this or ... ?

**sukura636**

Manchu wrote:
The starter forces are pretty cool but will Mantic follow up with more packs to support this or ... ?

There's already a fairly extensive range between Warpath and Deadzone, plus the marauders have had a fair few packs released. So I'd say yes.

**kodos**

There is the ongoing replacement of metal/pvc with resin, so Deadzone will be the first to see upgraded/new boxes (which can be used to upgrade FF with specialists/HQ as well)
(Marauder Deadzone Sets should be next)

army boxes for Warpath are still around, so there are small, medium and large box sets and I guess if the game is doing well the larger sets will be updated too

what I took away from all the podcasts and interviews is that the first 1st year is covered and for the 2nd years "it depends"

**Manchu**

“Covered” as in, this is it? Or as in, there are army expansions already on the way?

**scarletsquig**

With the unit entries in the faction book almost entirely covered by minis that Mantic sells, there isn't too much more that urgently needs releasing for the existing factions, a lot of it will be resculpts to move away from restic and reboxing to make things available (Plague are next in line for this with their new releases next month, followed by Marauders).

I notice easy army has a pic of the new resin marauder commando captain.

Enforcers with phase claws are likely, as that's a unit entry without a mini set.

The mini line has had a lot of work out into it over the years, lots of factions, lots of hard plastic kits, it just needed a good ruleset to go with it and Firefight really delivers on that.

So, the next large release is probably more likely to be a new army release (possibly two at once to make a new starter set), which would probably be next year at the earliest since there's a big lead time on plastics and Mantic will be seeing if the launch goes well or not first.

Current rumours suggest not Nameless or Rebs, I'm hoping for Zz'or.

Mazon Labs have also been mentioned in passing, which could be a really simple release.

**Manchu**

I’m not talking about new sculpts, I’m talking about boxed sets of miniatures to expand your starter force. These used to be called, for example, Reserve Forces. As it stands, you basically need to buy DZ boxes to expand your FF army.

**kodos**

those are already available, there are the single troop/specialist/support boxes, there are the mixed formations (Deadzone Starter/Booster), and vehicle formations

**Manchu**

kodos wrote:
those are already available

Incorrect. I’m not sure what is making this so hard to follow. Maybe you don’t recall or never saw how Warpath/Firefight was sold in the past. There were three army boxes: Starter, Reserve, and Mega. The Starter armies were pretty much what the 2E launch bundles are: infantry and some lighter vehicles. The Reserve boxes had more/heavier vehicles and some support or specialist choices. The Mega boxes were both together and then some.

**kodos**

so you are asking of there will be other army boxes in a similar size as the Strike Force boxes but with a different composition?

we don't know, and I doubt it because you don't need 2 army boxes to get a full army

the Strike force boxes are already close or above 1k points, which is the standard size of the game
so in case of the boxes that are short, another vehicle or infantry box will be enough (and the vehicle bundle boxes are there)

2 army boxes would be overkill for Firefight, and the reason there were 3 different boxes for Warpath was simply because you needed them to get an army in the right size for it

**Manchu**

Okay, that makes sense. If FF has a smaller army size then I suppose we will just be expected to build armies from DZ boxes and Mantic direct orders. This will probably end up being an obstacle to FF succeeding.

**kodos**

are the normal boxes Mantic direct in the US?

the stores here stocks the regular boxes, for example the 5 Peacekeeper, 10 Scouts, 10 Enforcer, 4 Jetbike, or Strider boxes (as well as the vehicles)

so it is not a big problem to order the Strike Force, another vehicle or Troop box and expand the force with those

**lord_blackfang**

All of those pictures are atrocious.

**Shrapnelsmile**

Ordered a starter, extra rule book and some extra units for Mauraders and Enforcers. Everything I've seen about this game's rules looks immensely refreshing, and I want to support.

**Miguelsan**

I still have seceral dozen plague zombies to build and paint, but wouldn't mind some big boys to keep them company. Also Rebs, very useful for FF, and Stargrave.

M.

**kodos**

Deadzone Marauder Boxes are up for pre-order
https://www.manticgames.com/news/late-night-double-friday-feature-marauder-pre-orders/

Marauder Commando Starter, 35€
10x Plastic Marauder Commandos
1x Resin Commando Captain
2x Resin Mawbeast Bombers

Marauder Fire Support Booster, 35€
1x PVC Commando Sergeant
1x PVC Marauder Hulk
1x PVC Goblin Guntrack

Marauder Frontal Assault Booster, 35€
1x Resin Marauder Warlord
2x PVC Ripper Suits

**BobtheInquisitor**

That commando captain is really commanding. I hope he’s available separately eventually.

**Psychopomp**

Wow. They really need to get their new marauder sculptor to immediately roll our some replacement heads for the old models as a stopgap. That's just jarring, having the old stuff right below the new stuff like that.

**Shadow Walker**

Maw beast bombers and goblin track are my favourites.