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Pathfinder?

The lack of background is a feature not a bug!

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
I think I just found the game to play with my Goblin with the fishbowl helmet...

From what game is this gobbo?

Starfinder. It's the iconic goblin image.

https://starfinderwiki.com/sf/Goblin

damn I was really hoping for Johan Egerkrans to be handling the art.

 warboss wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
I think I just found the game to play with my Goblin with the fishbowl helmet...

From what game is this gobbo?

Starfinder. It's the iconic goblin image.

https://starfinderwiki.com/sf/Goblin

Thanks for info

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
I think I just found the game to play with my Goblin with the fishbowl helmet...

From what game is this gobbo?

Starfinder They have the minis out now, a small selection, but Wizkids needs to start somewhere...

I'll add in a couple of the others, and give them some 25mm pistols' and shotguns.

So you get two hero characters and a bunch of redshirts. I can make that work.
Might even paint up some sedition wars minis to use for it, if I can bare to clean of the mould lines!

Will probably give this a shot, though we've pretty much switched over to F28: War Always Changes for all our SF wargames needs in this house...

Had probably 3 or so games of Rogue Stars and it's a pretty cool, very tactical system, but I think you'd have to go all in on it and play nothing else if you wanted any chance of remembering all the rules. :(

Frostgrave still gets a bit of play here. I didn't rate Ghost Archipelago really though, so will wait and see with Stargrave.

 Tamereth wrote:
Might even paint up some sedition wars minis to use for it, if I can bare to clean of the mould lines!

*Shudder*

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
Will probably give this a shot, though we've pretty much switched over to F28: War Always Changes for all our SF wargames needs in this house...

Had probably 3 or so games of Rogue Stars and it's a pretty cool, very tactical system, but I think you'd have to go all in on it and play nothing else if you wanted any chance of remembering all the rules. :(

Frostgrave still gets a bit of play here. I didn't rate Ghost Archipelago really though, so will wait and see with Stargrave.

Pretty much my thoughts on Rogue Stars as well. It is a decent (if somewhat clunky) system that has provided my main opponent and I some very cinematic games... but hot dang is it a pain to remember the rules when you only get it play it once every few weeks.

Really hoping Stargrave itches the 10-12 model per side simple sci fi skirmish game on a 3x3 board with a campaign system I have been itching for.

 Tamereth wrote:
So you get two hero characters and a bunch of redshirts. I can make that work.
Might even paint up some sedition wars minis to use for it, if I can bare to clean of the mould lines!

Funny that you should mention them... I've been thinking about digging out my SW minis, stripping and repainting them, then using them to play...



Sedition Wars!


This might not be the smartest idea that I've ever had.

Has anyone ever bothered to strip them? Do they go sticky and gooey?

I would use something plastics-friendly to strip them, but it shouldn't be an issue. Simple Green takes a couple days, but is friendly to almost anything.

Man I'm glad this thread got started because it's giving me xxxxtons of ideas for other games.

I wish we could get more preview information so I could start working on minis for this. Just a list of weapon options, no stats, would be incredibly handy.

Assuming it sticks close to Frostgrave precedent, what is on the model will not be important as long as the weaponry is not deceptive. (e.g. A figure with a lightsaber representing one armed with a SAM launcher is a no, but lightsaber dude could represent any melee type weapon user.) So building most of your figures based on your preferences should be safe. Having said that, I will wait to see what HW and specialist weapons are available before building any more.

 Psychopomp wrote:
I wish we could get more preview information so I could start working on minis for this. Just a list of weapon options, no stats, would be incredibly handy.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Assuming it sticks close to Frostgrave precedent, what is on the model will not be important as long as the weaponry is not deceptive. (e.g. A figure with a lightsaber representing one armed with a SAM launcher is a no, but lightsaber dude could represent any melee type weapon user.) So building most of your figures based on your preferences should be safe. Having said that, I will wait to see what HW and specialist weapons are available before building any more.

I'd like to know if the thug-equivalents are armed with a hand weapon, pistol and hand weapon, or rifle. That sort of thing. Will there be a difference between a rifle and an assault rifle? A rifle and a shotgun? Or are they all just long guns with a generic statline?

While Frostgrave certainly has a lot of play with what various melee weapons can represent, we currently have no idea of how much granularity a sci-fi ruleset will have. I'd expect there's little difference between an automatic rifle and a laser rifle, but I'm not sure about that, either. Will grenade launchers and/or plasma guns be an option? There's a lot we don't know at the moment.

 Psychopomp wrote:
I'd like to know if the thug-equivalents are armed with a hand weapon, pistol and hand weapon, or rifle. That sort of thing. Will there be a difference between a rifle and an assault rifle? A rifle and a shotgun? Or are they all just long guns with a generic statline?

While Frostgrave certainly has a lot of play with what various melee weapons can represent, we currently have no idea of how much granularity a sci-fi ruleset will have. I'd expect there's little difference between an automatic rifle and a laser rifle, but I'm not sure about that, either. Will grenade launchers and/or plasma guns be an option? There's a lot we don't know at the moment.

Fair enough. And I'd expect more granularity with Stargrave. Rifles and shotguns do serve different combat roles in the real world, and treating them the same would feel off for many players. Similarly, there does need to be some difference between solid shot weapons and energy weapons.

I would hope/assume that there will be more weapon granularity and less soldier/henchman granularity with Stargrave compared to Frostgrave.

But who knows...

Fist expansion to SG:
''Stargrave: Quarantine 37

The first supplement for Stargrave, the science-fiction wargame from award-winning designer Joseph A. McCullough, introducing new scenarios, soldiers, technology and aliens to the ravaged galaxy.

At the time of its commission, Imperial Research Station 37 held nearly ten-thousand scientist and researchers working on a vast array of biological and chemical projects. Then, six-months before the outbreak of the war, Station 37 went dark. There were no distress messages; no escape pods were launched. Only a solitary, repeating broadcast filled the silence. This station is under quarantine. Do not approach. When the Endwar came, the station was forgotten, left to drift lifelessly in its empty system. Now, with the war over, and the Free Traders roaming the ruins, the station has been rediscovered. Although the station must clearly be approached with caution, the technology it contains is worth many fortunes...

Quarantine 37 is a supplement for Stargrave, in which the players lead their team of Free Traders into an abandoned space station, looking for lost technology as well as potentially unique research and experiments. Unfortunately, a few of those experiments have escaped and still roam the tight, dark confines of the station. Along with a host of new scenarios, this book also contains new technology, soldiers, aliens, and ship options for the players to upgrade their forces.''

MrPieChee wrote:
I would hope/assume that there will be more weapon granularity and less soldier/henchman granularity with Stargrave compared to Frostgrave.

But who knows...

It's hard to find the right balance, yes I want an assault rifle to be different from a shotgun and both to be different from a laser gun. But I also want to make my guys look cool, and not worry about whether then have a shotgun or laser gun...

I think 3rd edition 40k got a decent balance. All hand weapons are either normal or power, who cares if it's an axe, sword or nunchucks.

There’s a bunch of minis I think it might give some secondary life to. The sci fi Zombicide version has all sorts of techy looking models and alien baddies, Deadzone models, Pig Iron, Sedition Wars, Judge Dredd, Aliens Vs Predator and any of the Star Wars stuff. I’ve seen people use the standard Frostgrave as a Star Wars proxy rules set, treat the wizard as your Jedi/Sith and spells as their force powers. Renaming crossbows and ranged weapons as blasters etc.

Frostgrave is for casual play and very open ended in terms of what type of minis you use which is a huge part of why it’s appealing. There isn’t a hard focus on using a single line of minis and you can adapt the rules to include almost anything you want. It allows for a lot more imagination and house rules than something like 40k does. I also find skirmish level games faster and much more fun vs grinding with full armies 40k style.

I also hope there is some "suppression" mechanic for weapons fire.

Personally I hope this game will allow me to put a group of Modiphius Klingons and GW Orks against Xenomorphs, Predators, Zombies and Borg. If it does, I'll be happy.

> If you want a "D&D Lite" kind of thing, Frostgrave can be pretty fun.

I'll also mention McCullough's (sp) Rangers of Shadowdeep, for a solo or coop fantasy miniatures skirmish game. Actually, might as well mention the older Song of Blades and Heroes. (: SoBH also includes a web-based unit designer, so you can make your own custom units, rather than not add modifiers for races, weapons, etc.. I did noticed that some Frostgrave scenarios use uncommon terrain features and monsters.

For miniatures stripping, see the Painting and Modelling forum. Myself, I recommend 90% isopropyl alcohol or Purple Power. Use gloves and two containers for stripping!

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Personally I hope this game will allow me to put a group of Modiphius Klingons and GW Orks against Xenomorphs, Predators, Zombies and Borg. If it does, I'll be happy.

So long as you don’t mind if they all have pretty much the same stats.


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Ced1106, thanks for mentioning Rangers of Shadow Deep. Sounds like a tabletop fantasy game I could get my family to play. Maybe.

Oh, mark me down as interested.
Frostgrave always intrigued me.

To quote Northstar: ''Stargrave. Next to Oathmark, this will be our biggest release of the year. Joseph McCullough's sci-fi version of Frostgrave, with multiple plastic kits to support it.''

 Shadow Walker wrote:
To quote Northstar: ''Stargrave. Next to Oathmark, this will be our biggest release of the year. Joseph McCullough's sci-fi version of Frostgrave, with multiple plastic kits to support it.''

What is this strange feeling in my breast?

Is it hope?

I'm just hoping for some light Sci-Fi instead of Grimderp.

Really wanting to use my Zombiecide Scifi models as well!

Hyped for plastic kits, not gonna lie!