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Skaven need a massive line update in terms of not so much having more diverse models, but replacing metal, resin and even early plastic models with new updated sculpts.

They very much need a huge line update - you've got things like 1st generation plastic rat ogres still running around.

Yeah, Skaven need a big update and if GW is going to do a cycle for its edition armies then it's Chaos's turn which would be the perfect opportunity.
Plus the story currently is focussing on the establishment of new Dawnbringer Cities and with cities, you get rats.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
For anyone wondering the various Skinks are £19 each, Kroak and Saurus Old Blood on Carnosaur are each £37.50 while the Slann is 42.50.

Think I'll pass. I've got more than enough other stuff to paint, these would have been nice to have if they were reasonably priced, but not essential purchases.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Article didn't mention it (getting lost in all the Leviathan whatever) but the video mentioned an MTO for some classic Seraphon stuff.

I ordered a Tenhenhuan. It’s crazy to me they were the same price as the other Skinks given their size and they’re on the fancy base and have the little sidekick. $35 for them in metal really ain’t bad, it’s half to a third of what they’ve been up on the eBays for. Having to wait a potential 180 days to get it is a bit of a bummer though. Ordered it thru the local Mallhammer store to avoid the website queue today and got to pick up the free Saurus while I was there for a bonus.

 Gert wrote:
Yeah, Skaven need a big update and if GW is going to do a cycle for its edition armies then it's Chaos's turn which would be the perfect opportunity.
Plus the story currently is focussing on the establishment of new Dawnbringer Cities and with cities, you get rats.

I'd throw in two other options as well. We've gone through Chaos, Death and Destruction. Even if GW sticks with one Grand Alliance per cycle until everyone had their time in the sun, who's to say that they keep the order of the first cycle the second time around?

The other one is Order versus Order, so that the versus side truly does have each Grand Alliance represented once. Sounds a bit weird on paper, but depending on what Malerion is up to and how spiky and sinister his elves look, GW could probably sell a Sigmarine versus shadow elves box that had recognizable good/evil visuals, even if the fluff is more nuanced.

Previews are starting to kick up now that we're getting Leviathan out of the way

I wish the GH books went a full year instead of just six months.

Seems it does.

Does mean better be good one. Another bounty hunter for full year would be doh

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/11/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-realms-of-ruin-debuts-its-first-gameplay-trailer/

General's Handbook article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/12/generals-handbook-2023-24-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-prepares-for-a-new-season-in-frozen-andtor/

And this one stays for a year. Interesting. I guess the 6-month turnover was too difficult to maintain and/or the pushback from how short these books were out made them rethink it.

Also next winter end of editioe preparations

tneva82 wrote:
Also next winter end of editioe preparations

We're moving towards the 'End of Edition Campaign' already with these Harbinger books, would be nice if they'd not arrive in a fashion that was as cramped as Arks of Omen and people would have some time to actually use the contents

 Scottywan82 wrote:
And this one stays for a year. Interesting. I guess the 6-month turnover was too difficult to maintain and/or the pushback from how short these books were out made them rethink it.

I can imagine both. The quick turnover meant people were always adjusting to new meta and the quick turnover also meant that GW couldn't do reprints as the reprints would arrive the day the new book should have gone out.

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
And this one stays for a year. Interesting. I guess the 6-month turnover was too difficult to maintain and/or the pushback from how short these books were out made them rethink it.

I can imagine both. The quick turnover meant people were always adjusting to new meta and the quick turnover also meant that GW couldn't do reprints as the reprints would arrive the day the new book should have gone out.

so strange to me that people find 6 month too short to get used to it, i'm already getting bored of a season after 4-5months of playing the same missions.
Eager to get all the details on that one tho

Six months was always too fast. A year should last an average player more than enough time.

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
And this one stays for a year. Interesting. I guess the 6-month turnover was too difficult to maintain and/or the pushback from how short these books were out made them rethink it.

I can imagine both. The quick turnover meant people were always adjusting to new meta and the quick turnover also meant that GW couldn't do reprints as the reprints would arrive the day the new book should have gone out.

so strange to me that people find 6 month too short to get used to it, i'm already getting bored of a season after 4-5months of playing the same missions.
Eager to get all the details on that one tho

Well not everybody gets to play every week.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/16/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-ii-ringing-in-the-dawn/

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
And this one stays for a year. Interesting. I guess the 6-month turnover was too difficult to maintain and/or the pushback from how short these books were out made them rethink it.

I can imagine both. The quick turnover meant people were always adjusting to new meta and the quick turnover also meant that GW couldn't do reprints as the reprints would arrive the day the new book should have gone out.

so strange to me that people find 6 month too short to get used to it, i'm already getting bored of a season after 4-5months of playing the same missions.
Eager to get all the details on that one tho

You can play the scenarios from the previous GHB (or even further back). They still work, and many work quite well.

Ogre-mounted Sniper!

Oh now that's good. Just the sort of grim derp I was hoping for. Also, I love that shield. Also also, glad to see confirmation that it's not 100% exclusively human. My interest just rocketed.

I really hoped for that kinda sillyness.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Oh now that's good. Just the sort of grim derp I was hoping for. Also, I love that shield.

Hahaha, I'm stealing "Grim derp", it's so fitting.

It's delightfully idiotic, picks up desing cues from the Old World, and due to the size of the model the overly-detailled CoS-look actually works well on this one, so general thumbs up!

I adore it overall. The ogre I'd like more as a fatty McFatFat, I simply enjoy the art and concept of the first Ogre Kingdom rulebook.

Besides that, it is the right amount of ridiculously over the top that I simply like it. It's not "whole army of immortal golden bois" or Bloodbath Bloodletterers with Bloodblades and Bloodhelmet ridiculous, it could be from Mordheim. They're not even hiding it. The literal tower shield is pure gold.

The knights are also pretty nice, but a unit of such wackiness starts to be a bit much and the infantry preview left me cold. But one or two models or units for some skirmish goodness, yes, please.

So ogors are the new ogres? Whilst I dig the model, I feel that the new Ogres and Orcs look more ‘generic’ rather than Warhammer. Very cool concept nonetheless!

 Malika2 wrote:
So ogors are the new ogres? Whilst I dig the model, I feel that the new Ogres and Orcs look more ‘generic’ rather than Warhammer. Very cool concept nonetheless!

The period-piece helmets and the overall amount of filigree makes them look a lot like Rackham sculpts, especially the late Cadwallon stuff.

 Malika2 wrote:
So ogors are the new ogres? Whilst I dig the model, I feel that the new Ogres and Orcs look more ‘generic’ rather than Warhammer. Very cool concept nonetheless!

Ogres/Ogors have never just been exclusively the kingdoms. There have always been different types that weren't necessarily fat and sporting a Fu Manchu stache.

I like it without the snipers nest- its a rather nice grounded RPG model, and the head and arm swaps give it some decent customization.

I figure this is an Ogor on a strict diet with a daily fitness regime involving lifting (but not emptying) ale barrels.

Also I suddenly really want to do a 40K version with a commissar and his Ogryn bodyguard.

Voss wrote:
I like it without the snipers nest- its a rather nice grounded RPG model, and the head and arm swaps give it some decent customization.

The only part I dislike is that it's a human and not a Dwarf in the sniper nest.