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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Whilst I’ve not built it yet, anyone else finding the Contemptor a bit, well, overly bitsy? As I’m what looks to be a lot of fiddliness where it’s perhaps unnecessary?

I started working on mine last night and you're not wrong. I'm not even done with assembly of the main body and it's already taken me longer than any resin Contemptor from washing to gap filling. But it also feels like it was set up this way for a reason. Very much looking forward to the upgrade kits and seeing how they interact with the main kit.

So now that folks are getting their boxes, can we all agree that the rulebook is very pretty and extremely user unfriendly? I would have loved this to be a two-tome set with a fluff volume and a pure rulesbook. Would also love a standalone special rules reference to supplement the reference cards.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Whilst I’ve not built it yet, anyone else finding the Contemptor a bit, well, overly bitsy? As I’m what looks to be a lot of fiddliness where it’s perhaps unnecessary?

Yes, absolutely. For this clean version, it seems like it really has a lot of split armor parts.


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 Prometheum5 wrote:
So now that folks are getting their boxes, can we all agree that the rulebook is very pretty and extremely user unfriendly? I would have loved this to be a two-tome set with a fluff volume and a pure rulesbook. Would also love a standalone special rules reference to supplement the reference cards.

...also yes, for the most part. It will be a bitch to use on the table.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Whilst I’ve not built it yet, anyone else finding the Contemptor a bit, well, overly bitsy? As I’m what looks to be a lot of fiddliness where it’s perhaps unnecessary?

I am actually looking forward to building the Contemptor the most precisely for this reason. It feels more like a proper sci-fi model kit than just a "gaming piece". It's going to be a great piece for trying some advanced modelling techniques with.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
So now that folks are getting their boxes, can we all agree that the rulebook is very pretty and extremely user unfriendly? I would have loved this to be a two-tome set with a fluff volume and a pure rulesbook. Would also love a standalone special rules reference to supplement the reference cards.

Yes, this has, sadly, nearly always been a problem with GW's rulebooks.

Regarding the "scale", well... yeah, the beakies are generally bigger. But not so much as to be a problem, IMHO.

I haven't found it yet, but what is the breakdown of "BULKY" sizing.

My copy won't be here till next week and just trying to figure out if my rapiers can go in the spartan(not that I'd do this on TT) but I like knowing which transport can transport what in universe.

Racerguy180 wrote:
I haven't found it yet, but what is the breakdown of "BULKY" sizing.

My copy won't be here till next week and just trying to figure out if my rapiers can go in the spartan(not that I'd do this on TT) but I like knowing which transport can transport what in universe.

Bulky(x) where x = how many slots you take up.

Currently they're extremely bulky, so by new numbers would be 4 slots? Plus the 2 gunners

Racerguy180 wrote:
I haven't found it yet, but what is the breakdown of "BULKY" sizing.

My copy won't be here till next week and just trying to figure out if my rapiers can go in the spartan(not that I'd do this on TT) but I like knowing which transport can transport what in universe.

And for reference, the rapier, carrier only is bulky (4). Both it and the gunners are Infantry so can go in a transport, so 6 slots used in total per unit; so 4 batteries plus their crew in a spartan with 2 slots left over if I've done my sums right. Bet that'd surprise your opponent!

I got to my store 13 minutes after they opened and they had already sold 4 of the boxes by the time I was checked out.

For my part today I've just been tooling around with the axe praetor trying to make him into something that doesn't scream Sons of Horus quite so loudly, as he'll end up being an Ultramarine:



I've also begun to magnetize special weapons and bolters on the tactical marines, which is not as difficult as I thought it would be. The wrists are big enough to receive two small magnets and then i just drill smaller holes into the hands and superglue in two lengths of paperclip, which is working fine so far.

Racerguy180 wrote:
Currently they're extremely bulky, so by new numbers would be 4 slots? Plus the 2 gunners

Rapier carriers are indeed Bulky (4). The marines are separate models so, yeah, six total slots per each complete set of gun+crew.

Thanks,

I didn't even think about that many in the spartan...

Mmm Mastodon in future???

 Coolyo294 wrote:
I got to my store 13 minutes after they opened and they had already sold 4 of the boxes by the time I was checked out.

For my part today I've just been tooling around with the axe praetor trying to make him into something that doesn't scream Sons of Horus quite so loudly, as he'll end up being an Ultramarine:

Spoiler:

I've also begun to magnetize special weapons and bolters on the tactical marines, which is not as difficult as I thought it would be. The wrists are big enough to receive two small magnets and then i just drill smaller holes into the hands and superglue in two lengths of paperclip, which is working fine so far.

Spoiler:

Are you going to take a little greenstuff and turn the cutout on the front of the praetor's collar into a big ultramarine symbol?

 Coolyo294 wrote:


I've also begun to magnetize special weapons and bolters on the tactical marines, which is not as difficult as I thought it would be. The wrists are big enough to receive two small magnets and then i just drill smaller holes into the hands and superglue in two lengths of paperclip, which is working fine so far.

Huh, I hadn't thought of just putting steel in the hands - I've previously not found it strong enough. But now both wrists can take magnets easily. Thanks, idea nicked! (when my box eventually turns up, sigh)

No One Important wrote:

Are you going to take a little greenstuff and turn the cutout on the front of the praetor's collar into a big ultramarine symbol?

If i had greenstuff skills worth a damn i might try

 Coolyo294 wrote:

No One Important wrote:

Are you going to take a little greenstuff and turn the cutout on the front of the praetor's collar into a big ultramarine symbol?

If i had greenstuff skills worth a damn i might try

Dang, the cutout just seems so perfect for that. Guess I'll have to turn a spare into an Ultramarine myself.

So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

There is no such thing as "too bland for IWs"

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
There is no such thing as "too bland for IWs"

Hence why nobody paints danger stripes on them

Seriously, though, I'll probably end up doing a proper corvus pad sometime

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Spartan is pretty fun to build. Not entirely convinced one should follow the instructions religiously. When you’re attaching the front and rear of the central bit, it’s a lot easier to glue the rear top to the front top, then glue in the base plate. From there, get it glued to one of the track assemblies fairly quickly, as that will ensure everything is lined up properly.

Is it easy enough to swap weapons around, or will you need magnets?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Whilst I’ve not built it yet, anyone else finding the Contemptor a bit, well, overly bitsy? As I’m what looks to be a lot of fiddliness where it’s perhaps unnecessary?

Can you put a gun in both arms, or must it be gun/fist?

Racerguy180 wrote:
Thanks,

I didn't even think about that many in the spartan...

Mmm Mastodon in future???

Plastic Mastadon has me fully erect. I'll take four.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Spartan is pretty fun to build. Not entirely convinced one should follow the instructions religiously. When you’re attaching the front and rear of the central bit, it’s a lot easier to glue the rear top to the front top, then glue in the base plate. From there, get it glued to one of the track assemblies fairly quickly, as that will ensure everything is lined up properly.

Is it easy enough to swap weapons around, or will you need magnets?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Whilst I’ve not built it yet, anyone else finding the Contemptor a bit, well, overly bitsy? As I’m what looks to be a lot of fiddliness where it’s perhaps unnecessary?

Can you put a gun in both arms, or must it be gun/fist?

The Contemptor weapons are fully interchangeable, all of them can go on either arm. Have put a Gravis Autocannon (right) and Gravis heavy bolter (left) on mine.

Data sheet wise (the one included in the Age of Darkness box) yes as well, the basic Gravis Heavy Bolter and Fist options can be swapped out for any of the options on the sprue.

For those of you with the box already, and who haven't thrown a hissy fit about the split shoulder pads, how are you finding them? Is the seam turning out to be an issue or not?

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The Contemptor weapons are fully interchangeable, all of them can go on either arm. Have put a Gravis Autocannon (right) and Gravis heavy bolter (left) on mine.

Data sheet wise (the one included in the Age of Darkness box) yes as well, the basic Gravis Heavy Bolter and Fist options can be swapped out for any of the options on the sprue.

Ok, sweet, thanks. I didn't really want to make a HTH combat one.

Of course... now I want to do double twin-Autocannons. Is that possible?

 Dysartes wrote:
For those of you with the box already, and who haven't thrown a hissy fit about the split shoulder pads, how are you finding them? Is the seam turning out to be an issue or not?

It's more of an issue than I was hoping, but doesn't seem like anything some gap filler can't fix.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
The Contemptor weapons are fully interchangeable, all of them can go on either arm. Have put a Gravis Autocannon (right) and Gravis heavy bolter (left) on mine.

Data sheet wise (the one included in the Age of Darkness box) yes as well, the basic Gravis Heavy Bolter and Fist options can be swapped out for any of the options on the sprue.

Ok, sweet, thanks. I didn't really want to make a HTH combat one.

Of course... now I want to do double twin-Autocannons. Is that possible?

Yes, but you'll need two kits.

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Spoiler:

Oh man, these are looking great!

 Dysartes wrote:
For those of you with the box already, and who haven't thrown a hissy fit about the split shoulder pads, how are you finding them? Is the seam turning out to be an issue or not?

"Hissy fit". Heh. Nice.

I can assure you, it would have taken me more time to fix the issue with it than what I did.

Had to get rid of that ludicrously large sword on the Praetor, and I think the Mark II head looks decent:

 Dysartes wrote:
For those of you with the box already, and who haven't thrown a hissy fit about the split shoulder pads, how are you finding them? Is the seam turning out to be an issue or not?

Use a wicking poly cement.
Seriously, flat surface, two halves, dab of dichloromethane or whatever, job done. Flip it over and do the other side if you’re feeling paranoid.