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Collector's looks a lot worse than the standard. Smaller illustration, plastic coating, and some foil slapped on the corners.

JWBS wrote:
Collector's looks a lot worse than the standard. Smaller illustration, plastic coating, and some foil slapped on the corners.

Same design as the original Heresy volumes.

JWBS wrote:
Collector's looks a lot worse than the standard. Smaller illustration, plastic coating, and some foil slapped on the corners.

Problem is, for fools like me who’ve bought all the previous black books, limited ones included, having a new version with the same design and metal corners as the old ones would be my preferred rulebook over the standard. Not being able to purchase it at launch is annoying, especially as I want to get hold of the cards and tokens as well. But, ah fool me…

I understood what he meant. *After* the 2.0 launch with the rulebook in the box, GW are releasing the collectors edition, which are always limited. So if you're the sort of person that really likes those, and you've already bought the AoD box you're paying for 2 rulebooks. If it'd come out at the same time as AoD, and/or not been in the big box, people could have made a choice and not double up.

So a bit of a dick move from GW, to try and get people to spend more by staggering the releases this way.

The article is clear the same book as the box is also coming, and says it first, so it seems unlikely zedmeister meant to say the *only* version of the rulebook is limited.

Yes, it could have been phrased slightly better. And now we're all 10 minutes older for little gain.

tl;dr - 'a' is implied in front of 'limited rulebook after launch', not 'the'.

 zedmeister wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Collector's looks a lot worse than the standard. Smaller illustration, plastic coating, and some foil slapped on the corners.

Problem is, for fools like me who’ve bought all the previous black books, limited ones included, having a new version with the same design and metal corners as the old ones would be my preferred rulebook over the standard. Not being able to purchase it at launch is annoying, especially as I want to get hold of the cards and tokens as well. But, ah fool me…

So had book been out this week...you would have not orderded box?


Surely you didn't expect limited to be in box? That would have meant only few thousand boxes as the book is...you know limited

Btw this was 100% predictable release and main draw of box was discount models if limited rulebook was only thing you were after you already had information Needed to know it was coming. Q was just date. Would it have been better if it was month later?

tneva82 wrote:

So had book been out this week...you would have not orderded box?

…snip…

Q was just date. Would it have been better if it was month later?

No, having thought about it I’d have just got the rulebook to be honest and would have tried to source the tokens elsewhere if at all. To have the limited rulebook after the main launch is unusual from GW and I believe a first.

Edit - to add, having this information ahead of time would’ve been nice so that I could have made a better decision for me.

Not really. Launch box first, rulebooks later is something gw has been doing. Sell the big box with biggest margin first, rest later.

tneva82 wrote:
Not really. Launch box first, rulebooks later is something gw has been doing. Sell the big box with biggest margin first, rest later.

Yes, but not limited rulebooks. Though I haven’t paid attention to either 40k or AoS for a long time

I couldn't care less about a Ltd edition rulebook.. they are offering A LEGIT EPUB VERSION OF THE 30K.2.0 RULEBOOK!

Very happy, this means I wont have to DIY my own dataslate edition of the rulebook. I hope GW will also release the armybooks as epubs now. Very pleased!!

I can only hope this means we will be seeing more digital editions of the rulebooks again in the mear future. I love having all my official rulebooks on my iPad, and hate lugging physical books around to a game. Hell, I even upgraded to a spanking new M1 iPad Air this week, iPads FTW

 zedmeister wrote:
Are you joking



Limited rulebook after launch. The bastards really try to get you

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/19/sunday-preview-kill-maim-and-requisition-with-codex-chaos-space-marines/

Well, but of course! Some people would have passed on the big box otherwise, you know.

(seriously though, probably, not: most of those are probably buying the books off ebay)

 tauist wrote:
I couldn't care less about a Ltd edition rulebook.. they are offering A LEGIT EPUB VERSION OF THE 30K.2.0 RULEBOOK!

Very happy, this means I wont have to DIY my own dataslate edition of the rulebook. I hope GW will also release the armybooks as epubs now. Very pleased!!

I can only hope this means we will be seeing more digital editions of the rulebooks again in the mear future. I love having all my official rulebooks on my iPad, and hate lugging physical books around to a game. Hell, I even upgraded to a spanking new M1 iPad Air this week, iPads FTW

I'm positively surprised about that. Since they don't do that anymore with their other mainline games and the Liber Astartes/Hereticus didn't get one I wasn't expecting them to. Maybe the Libers will get one too next week? If that actually happens it could mean they listened to the backlash about physical only books and will bring back a digital version for the next 40k/AoS editions?

 Matrindur wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I couldn't care less about a Ltd edition rulebook.. they are offering A LEGIT EPUB VERSION OF THE 30K.2.0 RULEBOOK!

Very happy, this means I wont have to DIY my own dataslate edition of the rulebook. I hope GW will also release the armybooks as epubs now. Very pleased!!

I can only hope this means we will be seeing more digital editions of the rulebooks again in the mear future. I love having all my official rulebooks on my iPad, and hate lugging physical books around to a game. Hell, I even upgraded to a spanking new M1 iPad Air this week, iPads FTW

I'm positively surprised about that. Since they don't do that anymore with their other mainline games and the Liber Astartes/Hereticus didn't get one I wasn't expecting them to. Maybe the Libers will get one too next week? If that actually happens it could mean they listened to the backlash about physical only books and will bring back a digital version for the next 40k/AoS editions?

It would be nice if they did that, but I'm not getting my hopes up just yet. Horus Heresy has been getting a special treatment in many regards, take a look at the special weapons kit for example, a comparable kit for 40K would be unheard of! So perhaps HH getting epubs is another similar case of getting treated differently.

But I suppose if the epubs sell well enough, we will be seeing more of them. I hope the digital rulebook will at least sell well enough that they also decide to release the army books as epubs.

I can forgive a whole heck of a lot from GW with this one simple little move to sell digital rulebooks again. Huge kudos to them.

I do wish they’d hurry up and release more Heresy toys, like the Sicaran and other heavy weapons.

But not expecting them for a bit yet.

I was hoping for a paperback small copy of the rules, but an epub I think I will get.

Speaking of rules, I found rending in the special rules, but not breaching.

Are people really complaining about GW realizing the books on their own because...they couldn't wait a single week ? Well, it's usual GW practice, so...
I'll gladly buy the limited book and the army books, if I wake up early enough Saturday^^

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I just schlepped the box home and I'm already regretting it :-D

I think I'll baggie up everything that'll be going on sale at some point so the gigantic pile of sprues doesn't look so bad...

What are you planning on shifting vs. keeping?

I'm thinking I might offload 15-30 of the Mk6s, at least one Praetor and maybe half the Cataphractii

That's what I am waiting for in 2-4 months when the 'new shiny model syndrome' has worn off and the bandwagon jumpers are selling off their HH model for the 'next new fomo shiny'. The deals should be fantastic I would imagine. Hopefully plastic Mechanicum is a reality. I love resin models and metal models but some kits would work well in plastic.

Hopefully plastic Thunderhawk, warhound titan ( yeah im dreaming) and maybe some Dark Mechanicum goodies.

Glad everyone is liking their new toys. I've loved HH for about 15 years now and it's good to see people taking the plunge. I hope the 2.0 rules are updated and make sense. I think our group is going to stick with 1.0 rules but more asses in the seats is always good thing for the health of the game.

ePub is tempting. The big books are fine and pretty, but awfully heavy. Provided the ePub is searchable, I’ll go for it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
ePub is tempting. The big books are fine and pretty, but awfully heavy. Provided the ePub is searchable, I’ll go for it.

At least the old KT18 official epubs were all searchable and had standard indexes etc so I'm pretty sure these will be as well.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I was hoping for a paperback small copy of the rules, but an epub I think I will get.

Speaking of rules, I found rending in the special rules, but not breaching.

Rules for Breaching are in the Liber Heretics/Astartes books under Legiones Astartes Special Rules, along with about half or more of the various other special rules like Reach.

I've never much cared for this Cataphractii Praetor, but this new painted example is really sharp.

Makes me wonder where my ones got to.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Using Corvus for IW makes you a filthy traitor loyalist.

I mean... I am a loyalist, so... ^^

Lmao, fair enough then.

It was my belief that Mk. VI was limited distribution near the end of the heresy, so it's doubtful that the traitors would have managed to get any significant amount.

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Using Corvus for IW makes you a filthy traitor loyalist.

I mean... I am a loyalist, so... ^^

Lmao, fair enough then.

It was my belief that Mk. VI was limited distribution near the end of the heresy, so it's doubtful that the traitors would have managed to get any significant amount.

I think they’ve changed it slightly so it was a bit more widespread towards the end of the Heresy. And the Traitors were actually disproportionately well equipped (edit: at the outbreak of the heresy at least) due to Horus as the Warmaster ensuring the legions loyal to him were well kitted out before they revealed themselves.

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Using Corvus for IW makes you a filthy traitor loyalist.

I mean... I am a loyalist, so... ^^

Lmao, fair enough then.

It was my belief that Mk. VI was limited distribution near the end of the heresy, so it's doubtful that the traitors would have managed to get any significant amount.

The new core book pages on armor marks mentions millions of suits of armor being produced, so small amounts is a relative term. In 40K Dark Angels stand out for having enough suits of TDA armor for 100 troops. In the heresy, shipments of armor were in the thousands a delivery.

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Using Corvus for IW makes you a filthy traitor loyalist.

I mean... I am a loyalist, so... ^^

Lmao, fair enough then.

It was my belief that Mk. VI was limited distribution near the end of the heresy, so it's doubtful that the traitors would have managed to get any significant amount.

Nah that got retconned, now it was being given out before the end of the great crusade. Every legion got at least some, and by the siege it was the most common mark for both sides.

ImAGeek wrote:-SNIP-
I think they’ve changed it slightly so it was a bit more widespread towards the end of the Heresy. And the Traitors were actually disproportionately well equipped (edit: at the outbreak of the heresy at least) due to Horus as the Warmaster ensuring the legions loyal to him were well kitted out before they revealed themselves.

MajorWesJanson wrote:-SNIP-
The new core book pages on armor marks mentions millions of suits of armor being produced, so small amounts is a relative term. In 40K Dark Angels stand out for having enough suits of TDA armor for 100 troops. In the heresy, shipments of armor were in the thousands a delivery.

Huh, I was speaking based on the RG HH books where Corvus was playing with making Primaris marines. I guess that was probably a while before the seige though.

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So far I've assembled five of them and used the shoulder pads I printed while doing it (1-hour print for 60 pads, because feth the studded seam). Yes, they're not technically corvus shoulder pads, but I believe the regular corvus look a bit too bland when painting IWs, as there's not really any rim to paint a different metal tone.

Using Corvus for IW makes you a filthy traitor loyalist.

I mean... I am a loyalist, so... ^^

Lmao, fair enough then.

It was my belief that Mk. VI was limited distribution near the end of the heresy, so it's doubtful that the traitors would have managed to get any significant amount.

Well, I still don't know if I'll paint as IWs more than the 10 I'm doing right now, TBH.

I'm going for something along these lines:

Spoiler:

Looking good!

I wonder how much more expensive those two characters will be now compared to when they were last on sale?